Where are Obama's Attorney's - Votes Flipping in at least 4 states (from Bradblog)

[bkkyosemite]

'AWOL' Obama/DNC Attorneys Found! Turns Out They Were Working in Secret, Reports Alternet
Dems Claim 'Behind-the-Scenes' Effort, But No Evidence Offered to Support It...
-- Brad Friedman, The BRAD BLOG

We've been reporting for the past week on what we see as the dismal failure of the DNC/Obama's much-vaunted team of "thousands of attorneys" ready to pounce on any reported problems in the electoral system around the country. In one article after another, we've reported here on votes being flipped on completely unverifiable Direct Recording Electronic (DRE, usually touch-screen) voting machines from Democratic candidates over to Republicans and others. We've so far reported on that occurring in 4 different states, and have since received reports from at least two more on different DRE systems doing the same thing, which we're trying to confirm and/or report here as soon as possible.

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=6571

[babylonsister]

1. ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=7627519&mesg_id=7627519

Obama, McCain Amassing Thousands Of Lawyers To Monitor Polls

[bkkyosemite]

5. Yes I have read that but Brad has been saying on his blog that there is no sight of the attorney's

in the situations he is talking about. I also have seen other scenario's on YouTube regarding flipping when people go to vote. There are no attorney's there either. I am getting concerned that the programming on these machines has not been changed since the previous elections were stolen. I'm starting to get down about it. I hope Obama wins but the same things are happening that happened in 00 and 04. I am not seeing a lot of difference.:-(

[babylonsister]

9. You know what? I'm not ready to panic. nt

[bkkyosemite]

11. I'm not in a panic but I am concerned. Obama is farther ahead then they are telling. I just hope 08

is not a repeat of the cheats of 00 and 04.

[pocoloco]

2. Kerry had 20,000 of them dissapear....

just when he needed them.

[stillcool]

4. What did you expect Kerry to do?

count votes that could not be counted? I am astounded that the people in West Virginia, or anywhere else, are expecting the Senator from Illinois to come into their state and straighten out their Secretary of State. What part of the Federal Election Laws are being broken? Who can sue the voting machine companies, or the state for the loss of their vote? Whose votes are they?

[politicasista]

10. **crickets**

Good question.

[EFerrari]

14. The answer is a simple one. The problem is there are two different goals here.

The candidate wants to win and must/should work at doing that. That's what political parties do.

Voters want their votes to be counted. That's not the same goal.

We really can't rely on politicians to get our votes counted AND the campaign could file a claim to address the vote flipping. But they won't if their calculation is that it won't matter to their totals.

[politicasista]

15. We can hold the states acountable n/t

[EFerrari]

16. The time to do that is during an election or else there is no urgency

there and we just get sidelined.

And, that's what makes this so difficult. During the election, most of us are focused on winning, not on getting votes counted. The Republicans exploit that really well.

[politicasista]

17. Exactly n/t

[EFerrari]

12. They can try for a court order to get emergency paper ballots.

I know Obama has to pick his fights and I'm cool with how amazingly intelligent his campaign has been.

But, they could do that and they should do that in the swing states. They should tie up Republican resources everywhere they can as well as defend these votes.

[EFerrari]

13. Sorry, dupe.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

3. K&R. Utterly amazing that we would ever allow...

...machines with no verifiable redundancy checks or any paper audit trail to be used in the electoral process. Only a criminal would even contemplate such thing, much less seek to implement it.

[Triana]

6. Well Republicans are criminals and they are who make the voting machines and..

...who have been running the country for 8 years so...there ya go.

[babylonsister]

7. Why the hell hasn't any of this been addressed? After 2000, 2004?

Blows my mind.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

8. Didn't anybody tellya -- it's Groundhog Day.

[whathehell]

18. Good question...I sent the Brad blog item from yesterday's thread about "flipping" in Texas

-- among other places -- to Howard Dean...Basically asked the same thing.

[tblue37]

19. Cui bono?

If many powerful Democratic leaders have not addressed the fraudulent electronic machines, then I have to suspect that at least some of them are benefiting from those machines.

Perhaps some are being protected from primary challengers. Perhaps some are getting kickbacks. Perhaps some are being blackmailed. Who knows? But The fact that we have known about these machines' vulnerability for all these years and nothing has been done leads me to suspect that some of the most powerful Dems are less than eager to have verifiable votes.

Sure, they have only had a modicum of power for 2 years, but they have had the spotlight and could have made enough noise to make the public aware of the electronic theft of votes, but very few of the Democratic leaders have said much of anything about them.

We know why the Republicans don't complain about the machines, but why aren't our Dem leaders leading the charge against them? Nancy? Harry? Anyone?

[Stevepol]

20. Highly R'd!