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liberalpragmatist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 08:40 PM Original message |
Why did the term "Negro" become offensive? |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
1. In the late sixties, |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
20. It means...'black'. It's not offensive, just out-dated. The United Negro College Fund... |
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eowyn_of_rohan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 02:16 PM Response to Reply #20 |
64. My nephew told me that 'black' is not appropriate to say anymore |
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LiberalHeart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 09:49 PM Response to Reply #64 |
68. I've heard that, too. I don't get it. My family doesn't find it offensive. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
21. Computer glitch. |
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lunatica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 10:13 PM Response to Reply #1 |
72. It was dropped with the Black is Beautiful movement |
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Indenturedebtor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 10:17 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. Hey the Jewfro is still alive and well :D |
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kansasblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
2. wikipedia says..... |
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Lancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 08:52 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. As kansasblue points out, the wiki entry is long and full of good information |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
3. They didn't want to be "labeled" by whites |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:01 PM Response to Reply #3 |
18. Yes, I remember seeing that too |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 10:19 AM Response to Reply #3 |
38. "Say it loud, I'm black and I'm proud!"... |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
4. "Negro" was a term assigned by Europeans and was generally |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 07:38 AM Response to Reply #4 |
31. Who's the one on top? She's beautiful! |
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demmiblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 08:08 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. They are both pics of Alfre Woodward |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 02:14 PM Response to Reply #4 |
63. Alfre is a stunning woman and an excellent actress. |
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Whoa_Nelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
5. Here is an interesting discourse |
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99th_Monkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
7. I think it's because the word "negro" can so easily slip into "niggra" ... |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:32 PM Response to Reply #7 |
22. Interesting point! But 'black' and 'African American' are not equivalent... |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 11:49 AM Response to Reply #22 |
48. Which is why I don't like using it |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 03:52 PM Response to Reply #48 |
65. Right. My room mate and I are both 'white' but we're NOT both Anglo... |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 10:07 AM Response to Reply #7 |
35. My family said Nigra. I think it was just the southern accent |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 09:04 PM Response to Original message |
8. It depends entirely on the context? |
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greguganus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 10:15 AM Response to Reply #8 |
36. That reminds me when Fred Sanford went to a Mexican restaurant |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
9. I like to write novels set in the sixties, and although I want to be PC, |
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Bethany Rockafella (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
10. I don't think it is. |
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live love laugh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 09:18 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. It isn't. nt |
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EC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 09:11 PM Response to Original message |
11. To take ownership, the phrase "I'm black and I'm proud" |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:33 PM Response to Reply #11 |
24. Say it LOUD! |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
12. When black folks fold us they preferred being called black folks |
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Raschel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 09:59 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. But who says all Blacks preferred it? Many Blacks were none too happy when African-American |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:33 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. When I taught college, I'd ask what term people preferred and there's no consensus. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 09:16 PM Response to Original message |
13. It's the natural evolution of terms, and the sullying of such terms by detractors ... |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 09:19 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. But you can call anyone an idiot, imbecile, or moron in a post and no one |
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Mind_your_head (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 09:49 PM Response to Reply #16 |
69. Apples to oranges comparison, imo..... |
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UTUSN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
14. I dunno, but "Negro" in Spanish means "Black". |
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Indenturedebtor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 10:21 PM Response to Reply #14 |
76. I think that depends on where you're at |
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qwlauren35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:07 PM Response to Original message |
19. It depends on how old you are. |
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ladywnch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:43 PM Response to Original message |
25. Okay, I'm 50 and I grew up using the term 'black', and it is hard for |
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Blasphemer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 11:56 AM Response to Reply #25 |
51. No... it is not offensive... |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
26. (facepalm) |
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Brewman_Jax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 10:27 AM Response to Reply #26 |
39. I think you're looking for this... |
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Rancid Crabtree (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 06:15 AM Response to Original message |
27. just a thought... |
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Norrin Radd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 01:13 PM Response to Reply #27 |
58. I saw a really old Boy Scout manual, once, that used the term "low world' |
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LeftHander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 06:31 AM Response to Original message |
28. Same reason ignorant cracker did.... |
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ColoradoMagician (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 06:56 AM Response to Original message |
29. The new generations create their own lingo |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 07:20 AM Response to Original message |
30. It's a scientific term. It's like refering to "homo sapiens" instead of "people". |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 08:14 AM Response to Original message |
33. In the 1960s it became code word for n****r. nt |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 10:00 AM Response to Original message |
34. I remember when I grew up in mid-20th century, there were three races: |
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question everything (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 11:58 AM Response to Reply #34 |
52. And these days, there are not many people who can claim only one race |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 09:30 PM Response to Reply #52 |
67. Race changes like fashion. There are no real races. They're just made up |
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serrano2008 (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
37. Dont bash, just wondering - "colored people" vs "people of color" |
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geomon666 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 11:42 AM Response to Reply #37 |
46. Yes they are the same thing. |
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Blasphemer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 11:54 AM Response to Reply #37 |
50. Timing and intent |
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Jack Rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
40. It's not as offensive as quaint |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
41. because it is a label the white racist majority affixed to blacks |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
42. Dumbest thread ever |
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liberalpragmatist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 11:04 AM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Why? |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 12:20 PM Response to Reply #44 |
53. Because times change and people change and word meanings change |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 12:32 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. I always found the word to be condescending and I think the OP was intentionally incendiary |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 10:05 PM Response to Reply #54 |
70. It is a strange question to ask |
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Kind of Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
43. Interesting. My family and I arrived here from Africa in 1968, I was 8years old. |
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liberalpragmatist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 11:07 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Thanks everyone |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
47. This thread is bizarre. |
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aint_no_life_nowhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 01:51 PM Response to Reply #47 |
59. That jingle comes from a tune by the great blues legend, Big Bill Broonzy |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 02:00 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Not really |
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JustAnotherGen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 01:59 PM Response to Reply #47 |
60. Hamden |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 02:04 PM Response to Reply #47 |
62. Unloading your inner colonizer. There's a one liner for you. |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 04:03 PM Response to Reply #47 |
66. "Negro" is a lot like "Lady". It sounds stuck up. Like your shit don't stink. |
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frogcycle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 10:13 PM Response to Reply #47 |
71. thank you for the thorough and insightful discussion n/t |
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baabaasheeple (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
49. Now it means an Uncle Tom (I hear BP using it; not necessarily WP) |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
55. Negro means black in Spanish. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
56. It became offensive about the time President Lyndon B. Johnson learned how to pronounce it |
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ailsagirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
57. Per Wikipedia: |
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frogcycle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 10:15 PM Response to Original message |
73. Does the term "Nigra" give you a clue? |
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plaintiff (418 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 10:19 PM Response to Original message |
75. Depends on pronunciation: "nee-gro" is verboten these days. "nay-gro" is okay if you're |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-24-08 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
77. It sounds too much like that other word my grandmother uses all the time. |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-24-08 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
78. Because it shows one's out of touch |
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