VT, CT warning people to stock up on canned goods. Biden, Powell comments.

[Atman]

Generals meeting in NY. US Army being deployed around the country. Coffins stacked up at Government storage facilities. Cornered, angry neocons about to be kicked out of office.

There isn't enough tinfoil on earth to stop the some disturbing thoughts from entering my head.

:(

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[skooooo]

1. What?? What were the Biden / Powell comments?

I don't get it.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

2. All those dead bodies in Galveston still missing...

Earthquake machines avoiding prosecution for asian tsunami...

Chemtrails messing up our skies...

Where's Lee Mercer Jr. when you need him?

[TheWatcher]

9. We really don't need him.

We have you here to giggle and snicker and tell us everything is OK.

[my2sense]

3. This is scary

I guess we may all need to hope for the best put prepare for the worst.

[my2sense]

4. I went to cdc.gov

and didn't see any banners speaking to this. Do you have any links to the announcements?

:tinfoilhat:

[Atman]

5. They're tv commercials. This is all I could find on the CT web site...

http://www.ct.gov/CTFluWatch/site/default.asp

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[Sheets of Easter]

6. I don't play Connect the Dots on GD anymore.

When you do, you can wind up with any number of wild conclusions.

We've managed to survive five invasions of Iran and two cancelled elections. I wouldn't put stock into everything you read- not even here.

[marions ghost]

8. Do you call this surviving?

:shrug: I mean is putting up with stolen elections (and the results of that) surviving well?

[Sheets of Easter]

10. By "surviving," I mean not freaking out every time I read something on a message board,

and drawing my own conclusions.

[marions ghost]

12. OK then back to your regularly scheduled program

n/t

[leeroysphitz]

18. Not to mention a failed coup attempt in 2004, the Bird flu which was going

to kill everyone not rich enough to by the antidote from Donald Rumsfeld and the city of New Orleans becoming a wholly owned subsidiary of Blackwater Inc.

I'm getting tired of the whole Raw Story, Larissa Alexandrovna, Naomi Wolf Triumvirate of BULLSHIT that gets regurgitated here DAILY and by people who should know better.

[SidneyCarton]

42. dupe

n/t

[SidneyCarton]

43. Oh come on, tell us how you really feel.

Actually I don't necessarily disagree, while Ms. Alexandrovna and Ms. Wolf are often correct, they are not prescient, and like the rest of us, guess wrong some times and tend to see what they want to see.

[golddigger]

7. In psychiatry, thought insertion is the delusion...

that thoughts are being inserted in one's mind by someone else. It is a symptom by delusional disorder or schizophrenia. Thought insertion along with thought broadcast, thought withdrawal, thought block as well as other rank symptoms are primary symptoms and should be not be confused with the delusional explanation given by the respondent.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/thought_insertion ;-)

[Ikonoklast]

25. I put that thought in your head.

:P

[golddigger]

46. I know...lol

:thumbsup: :hi:

[NeedleCast]

11. The Difference between your fear mongering and that of the Republicans

Is that the Republicans are slightly more credible.

[Atman]

14. What is not credible about what I posted? What is not true.

Point out one part of my post that is, in fact, not credible. I'll wait.

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[NeedleCast]

15. A link to any of it would be a good start...

[Atman]

17. You're sitting at the link, man!

Jesus...every single thing I posted is the subject of at least a few different, current threads active on the DU big board right now.

[BeHereNow]

20. Get thee to the RESEARCH archives.

And until you have read from the beginning to the end
of the compilation there, go swing your arrogance elsewhere.

Please?

BHN

[BeHereNow]

19. Atman, don't waste your breath on fools.

Plenty of us know exactly where you are coming from and
share your concerns.

The snark ass posters have NOT a clue as to the written
background on this situation.
They couldn't make it through reading an executive order or PNAC document without
a dictionary if their lives depended on it.

Good thing their lives don't depend on it, oh, wait a minute...

Bottom line, there is a sad generation of DUers who think
spouting off about topics they have NO back ground knowledge in,
is somehow hip and cool-
More of the uniquely American narcissistic and twisted ego-
It knows no party lines, you know.
Hard to tell the freepers from the sane people sometimes, no?

BHN

[illuminaughty]

59. BHN, thanks

Sometimes I wish I didn't know. Friends and I were talking a week ago about how you can't really put the rose colored glasses back on after you step into that OTHER world. You know, the one where the candidate that gets elected will probably not matter. Whoops. Gotta tow the line.

I've been meaning to post to you that my boyfriend in high school (1973 and my first love) was really into the BE Here Now philosophy. He even had a belt made that it had it inscribed on it.
He died in a car accident in 1981 and every time I see your user name I think of him.
Thanks.

[Jamastiene]

13. Step away from the microwave.

You are panicking over nothing. Take a chill pill and get back to us in the morning.

[Atman]

16. Who said I was panicking?

Why do so many DUers think they have magical powers which allow them to know exactly what is going on in others' minds? I'm not panicking, I don't need a chill pill. I simply stated that there is a confluence of events going on which are difficult to ignore. You can feel free to ignore them. I'm certainly not running down the streets screaming, nor have I even purchased one iota of canned food or bottled water. I'm just observing that some strange things are happening, and without any real media or investigative reporting, I'm left to wonder whether or not all these things are purely coincidental or if they add up to something.

Like I just posted to the other guy...is there anything I said in my op which is WRONG? I just named a list of actual, true, verifiable things, and said they made me wonder. Which they do. Is wondering now forbidden on DU, too?

:eyes:

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[windbreeze]

29. I'm with you...

and all I can suggest, is to be as physically and mentally prepared as you can, for anything..IF I remember correctly, BC tried to warn the incoming admin about possible terrorists...but he was ignored..so I, for one, am happy to see, that Obama/Biden have their eyes and ears open...I figure this way...when a certain person/persons put one foot in front of the other, for 8 years...as deliberately as this crew has, with signing statements, exe orders, new special type laws...there is a purpose for it...unfortunately, we don't know exactly what that purpose is....yet...but looking at the financial/economic/military situation should be a concern to most of us...our problems are not over, not by a long shot...when is the best time to attack an adversary??? why when they are in a weakened condition, such as the States are in, right now, and either just before or just after an election...I believe those speaking out, are adding 2+2 and getting 4, and I am paying attention...wb

[BeHereNow]

30. You just nailed it, and illustrated why the snark-fucks need to STFU!

WHY indeed, have these draconian laws, designed to completely suppress
all dissent, been put into the mix if they didn't foresee a need to implement them???
THAT is the question and the concern of anyone who has remotely been
paying attention.
Unfortunately, the majority of DUers who followed such things
have left the board.
All we are left with is a bunch of arrogant and ignorant ________ fill in the blank as you will.
BHN

[lovuian]

40. You know there were a bunch of people in Galveston who

were told it was a Category II Hurricane Ike that thought they could dring a case of beer and sleep through it

Some people left some people didn't
Some lived Some died
Its just your decision when it comes down to it

Neither one is right or wrong

[BeHereNow]

21. Jamastiene...when is the last time you reviewed the last eight years of executive signings?

Until you refresh your knowledge bank, I would suggest you
refrain from ridiculing those who are operating from a much
wider base of knowledge.

BHN

[SidneyCarton]

44. I can choose to hope or choose to fear.

If we are doomed then my hope is vain, but we shall both surely die, and will you be any happier for having stared into the face of your inevitable doom than I am for having ignored it?

[Bluebear]

22. What are the Biden and Powell comments?

[Atman]

23. I find it amazing that any DUer wouldn't have heard already.

At least Biden's comment, about how Obama would be "tested" on a grand scale shortly after the election. Then Yesterday Powell came out and stated essentially the same thing, but with even more specificity, going so far as to offer a probable timeline (mid-January). Mind you, neither men were speaking in generalities. They both were making the case that Obama is in for some serious shit shortly after he takes office.

The quotes are all over the place. I'm sorry I don't have a link for you.

The Google is your friend.

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[BelgianMadCow]

26. I missed those two statements. Thanks for

the summary...

[BelgianMadCow]

31. Link for the meeting of generals

http://www.grandinite.com/2008/10/21/generals-meet-in-upper-new-york-finland-what-gives/

[Bluebear]

28. Pardon me the hell for asking. What was I supposed to Google, "Biden comment"?

It wasn't clear to what you were referring. Carry on.

[Dr Fate]

39. No- you were supposed to just take his word for everything, without any documentation.

Anyone who asks for documentation is invited to "look it up yourself"- because they dont want the full context of the facts presented in this thread.

[haele]

36. If you look at the past 30 years, each incoming president has had some sort of

"grand test" of leadership in crisis, usually involving the Middle East. That's not really a prediction, that's stating a trend.

I'd be surprised if there wasn't some sort of crisis, especially considering what sort of legacy the Shrub is setting out to leave - anything to distract the incoming president from dealing with him or Darth Cheney before 1)they hie themselves out of the country and 2) enough time has passed that the American attention span has moved pass them and their very potentially criminal, definitely unConstitutional behavior while in office.
Like Bush 41, Bush 43 (and Cheney - I had the misfortune of meeting that creature twice)is a vindictive, cowardly, selfish SoB. Anything to buy time, no matter how many people were hurt by his actions.

Haele

[DeschutesRiver]

56. I read all of Biden's talk

it was creepier than just what has been generally excerpted. He said that Obama may need to do things that are extremely unpopular, and that they would need the support of the base even more. Not money, but support and outreach in communities to encourage others who might be distressed about what is happening, about unpopular steps that Obama may need to urgently take, etc. Like this would start with some kind of outside world player doing something as a test of our administration, and that the President would respond, and things would get rough. And no matter what happened, or what their new administration's reponse was, to please please have faith in the outcome and stick with them for the duration. Paraphrasing, but it was not good.

CNN played a tape of Joe Lieberman saying THE EXACT SAME THING, he just didn't use either candidates name. Said "the next president", whoever it is, will be tested early in his adminstration by forces in the world and needed to be ready for some major serious shit going down.

And now I see you guys saying that Powell has mentioned this as well. This is too many well connected military and foreign relation types, from both parties, saying the same thing almost at the same time. I have to admit I originally blew off what Biden said, until I read the entire speech, and then got a bit freaked to see Lieberman doing it too. So this is NOT about Obama or McCain or Bush for that matter - this is something big that is apparently quite likely to happen soon, and not something we can stop in advance. No matter who is president, this will impact the rest of us.

I don't really know how I feel about this or what to say. Mostly, whatever is gonna happen is likely beyond my or your control right now. The planet is filled with humans who have ambitions, agendas, who seek to take advantage of whoever is down or in trouble at the moment to advance their particular cause. I read a lot of history; I get that this is how it works. I am not happy that I will be living through one of those "interesting times" but I won't pretend that I am not hearing what I AM hearing.

I am getting prepared - a bit of food, gas, cash and for me way out here, some extra farm supplies. Only duplicates of things I already use, so that I can be as self sufficient as I can be when or if things go wrong for a bit. If not, no big deal, as I can use this stuff daily anyway. Whether a bank holiday, a job loss, a test attack by some pissant in the world or just not having to drive to the store as often - there are enough good reasons for me to get a bit to get by in a pinch.

I've lived long enough to know I am hearing that something is afoot - whether it pans out or is snuffed out first, time will tell. I will make a few preparations just in case they might help my family, and then I will let any worry go and try to enjoy the gift of life each day.

[Atman]

61. No LINKS?! You're making it all up!

:eyes:

Thanks for posting. Dr. Fate and the DU Link Police should have a field day with your post. If they're honest. I doubt it. Fate, like McCain attacking Obama, couldn't offer any argument to refute, debunk, whatever, what I posted. He just went after me for link etiquette. Meanwhile, Rome burns. Oh, wait, I don't have a link for that, so I retract it.

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[DeschutesRiver]

63. You were getting the snot slapped out of you for pointing out the obvious

I for one was appreciative of your post; good to see others noticing the same stuff.

Maybe some people have missed all the facts flying around - there's been a lot going on. Or maybe they've seen the facts, but are not processing the info very well - critical thinking skills are almost extinct. My personal fav theory is that we have a bunch of people who haven't seen much of anything really bad go down in their entire lifetimes, or talked with people from older generation who have lived through bad stuff.

Rather than be link hall monitors, they could better spend their time trying to find, figure out and followup on some of these developments. I figure that those who can't get out of hall monitor mode just aren't at a point where they can or want to acknowledge the gravity of this situation. Nothing can be done about that. Maybe like my dh said this morning - ignorance might not be bliss, but it probably is temporarily a lot more peaceful and easy on the mind:)

I am not panicking either; but I'd have to be a lot dumber than I am to not notice these connections or worse, to not to act upon what I am noticing.

[Atman]

67. Thank you.

:hi:

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[Matariki]

24. What the hell are you talkign about?

[blues90]

27. Powell and Biden certainly know something.

Other wise why make the comments they have.

We don't know as always what is going on behind closed doors yet people who avoid facing that something will happen are only fooling themselves.

It may not be some attack or flu or what me may think but think about all they have done in 8 years and look how sudden this financial melt down leaped out of what seemed like nowhere and the timing of it all.

I say stay low and keep your eyes and mind open to any possibility , this stuff is no joke.

Test the metal my ass. Who's metal is what I ask.

[Name removed]

34. Deleted sub-thread

Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[madinmaryland]

32. Good god man! What are you talking about?

I just logged onto DU and don't know what it is you are referring to.

:shrug:

[wvbygod]

33. Is there a link to the canned goods warning?

Where are you seeing this warning for just VT and CT?

[Atman]

35. CT has been running commercials for a week or two. VT just started.

A link to the Vermont story is still up on the big board in GD.

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[Dr Fate]

38. Why not provide a link here, in your own thread. Your readers should have the full context...

...all in one handy spot- right? Why should we have to search for & cross reference 5 or 10 other threads that may or may not be backed up with links- just to help you make your case?

Seems like making your readers cross reference several sources (some of these sources are other DU threads, apparently) is a good way to confuse & obscure the context of all the quotes & facts.

Just because people are doubting all of your story and compelling you to back it up with the facts documented in their full context doesnt mean they are lazy- quite the opposite, actually.

[SidneyCarton]

45. This makes some sense, particularly if winter is expected to be harsh this year.

Under such circumstances, particularly in rural VT homes may be cut off for some time and canned food is a good fall back in times of extremity. Also useful if power outages are expected, as happens in major ice storms.

[Dr Fate]

48. The local San Francisco govt. has been encouraging this since Katrina.

I suppose Mayor Gavin Newsome and SF's Liberal Supervisor's Board has now joined Joe Biden & Powell in this dark conspiracy as well.

[SidneyCarton]

55. We have fallen far if common sense is now considered a conspiracy.

Things are bad, so one should prepare for trouble, nothing mysterious there.

[Dr Fate]

66. Conspiracy theories can be healthy- my main beef is implicating Biden with zero evidence.

n/t

[Dr Fate]

37. I'll bet John Kerry and his Scary Skeleton Club are somehow involved.

We are through the looking glass, people!

[Catherine Vincent]

41. Get a load of this tripe: Fema Coffins

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od29Ece8OsE&feature=related

[Lex]

47. LINK please.

So I can figure out what the hell . . . ?

[Dr Fate]

49. I was called an "asshole" a "tool" and a "dick" when I pointed out this lack of links in the OP.

I dont think they like it when we ask them to document the facts that make up thier "concerns" about Joe Biden, Coffins, stocking up, etc.

[Lex]

50. I was just called an asshole in another thread for pointing out

that the OP had made a parody post.

Everybody's got an itchy trigger finger around here.

[Dr Fate]

51. I think we all miss internal flame wars! Maybe we should all go over to FR for our fix!

!!!

[Irish Girl]

52. I have a very strong suspicion we will see economic collapse soon here

.. Which may be what all the 'preparing' is for. And not to scare anyone but if the buzz I'm hearing is correct, it will unfortunately be within the next five months.

My recommendation if this should happen: Stay calm, Form communities, stock up on water and food, learn how to eventually sustain your own food in case of emergencies and/or job loss

The whole house of cards is starting to fall and if we're going through a massive deflationary squeeze like I believe we're starting to feel the pinch of, jobs are going to continue evaporating in the coming months. Americans are simply too tapped out at this point and laden with too much debt to continue taking out credit, which unfortunately is needed to keep the economic wheels greased :(

[TheWatcher]

53. Atman, do not bother yourself with the Rose Colored Brigade.

The particular "link policemen" in this thread I would not pay too much attention to.

There is a whole Brigade of "Don't You Dare Fuck With My False Paradigms That Help Me Live In Artificial Comfort" bunnies on DU to whom it would not matter if verified, documented information merged itself with their DNA and became a part of the natural ecology itself.

They would simply say it doesn't exist.

Biden's comments happened, they are real.

And for the Matrix Monkeys who are SCREAMING for a link, here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaR-SzPn5ZY

That's Biden. That's his words. That's his voice. That's what he said.

Deal With It. Or just get back to drooling and giggling and snickering about how it doesn't exist.

[halobeam]

54. thanks... I didn't see that before

I've been sick and out of the loop for a bit.

Some incredibly powerful words.

[TheWatcher]

57. You are welcome.

Isn't it amazing how the Rose Colored Brigade is now all of a sudden DEAD SILENT on this?

[Dr Fate]

65. So Biden's comments are in direct connection to coffins & calls for stocking up on food?

Biden has coordinated with the local SF government, the CT governments and other Post-katrina Emergency Preparedness efforts across the US on this?

Are we implying that Biden knows something we dont?

What is it that we are supposed to think Biden & Powell know about stocking up on food, mysterious coffins, etc that we dont?

Maybe the "link police" are questioning whether there is a connex at all- and note the reluctance to source everything together as a way to hide the full context of all these facts and whether they are connected or not...

What is the central theory here- that Biden knows of an impending disaster that he is hiding from us, but slipped up and said these things by accident?

[Name removed]

58. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Dr Fate]

64. Calling DUers "assholes", etc. here and above is a bully tactic and is against DU rules.

By calling other DUers harsh names, maybe you hope to scare them away or shut them down from debating your points.

Doesnt work with me when DLCers do it and it doesnt work with me when you do it either.

[Atman]

68. Except for when it is well-deserved.

:hi:

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[Dr Fate]

69. LOL! I'm used to people resorting to bullying & name calling when they cant debate.

My 5th grade nephew makes attempts at it all the time too- except he says "poopy head"

Name calling is a bully tactic whether it is "well deserved" or not- but it wont work on me.

I debate enough Republicans who also use this tactic to where it doesnt bother me.

Your inability to back up your implications is only matched by your inability to respect DU rules...

If anything, you should respect Skinner & DU rules...

It must suck when you cant back up your own OP without breaking the rules.

[Dr Fate]

70. No, apparently the Mods dont offer that as an exception-your post above (#58) was deleted.

n/t

[hootinholler]

60. No problem!

I still have my plastic sheeting, duct tape and Tuna under my bed!

-Hoot

[Atman]

62. Damn! I got stoned and ate the tuna, and used the plastic sheet when I painted the den

The duct tape...I think the wife uses it for home Brazilians or something. I buy it, but I never seem to be able to find it when I need to tape the door back on the fridge or something.

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