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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 04:31 AM
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I have one conservative friend
Edited on Wed Oct-22-08 04:32 AM by MichaelHarris
He's a pretty good friend so I decided to keep him. He's really torn up this election season, he's a Mormon and well, you know, one issue voters. They're killing Babies!!!!!

Anyway I just sent him an email:

Have you ever donated money to Republicans? Have any of those McCain/Palin supporters at work donated? Tuesday they found records that she used 150,000 dollars in campaign money to buy clothes. Palin received more valuable clothes in one month than the average American household spends on clothes in 80 years, put it in even blunter terms: her clothes were the cost of health care for 15 or so people.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/10/21/2008-10-21_rnc_spends_thousands_on_dresses_makeup_f.html

The money they used was from donations sent in by regular people, people who thought they were helping their particular political party. This is bad enough but it gets worse. Records now show she used Alaskan public funds to pay for her kids and husband to travel along with her while governor. She forged documents to show that her kids were on official business while they traveled with her.

“Gov. Sarah Palin charged the state for her children to travel with her, including to events where they were not invited, and later amended expense reports to specify that they were on official business. The charges included costs for hotel and commercial flights for three daughters to join Palin to watch their father in a snowmobile race, and a trip to New York, where the governor attended a five-hour conference and stayed with 17-year-old Briston for five days and four nights in a luxury hotel. So, she brought her kids along on trips that they weren't officially invited to attend, then later went back and amended the expense reports to make it look otherwise? Is that not the same as falsification? All told, Gov. Palin has bilked the state of Alaska for a total of $21,012 for her daughters' air travel since she was elected in 2006. That doesn't include hotel rooms, either.”
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/10/21/palin-falsified-expense-reports/

Both of these things are not only highly unethical they are illegal. This isn’t one of those things you can say, “both parties do it” because they don’t. This is exactly like those TV preachers asking for money so you can go to heaven only McCain and Palin are asking for the money because they will make you safe. Those preachers drive big cars, wear nice clothes, and live in mansions. McCain has eight mansions and Palin doesn’t know who built hers. These are the folks you’re considering voting for. This is why I’m a Democrat. We don’t cheat America.

Ask those Palin/McCain supporters you know if it’s OK that their donations be used for fancy hotels and nice clothes, hotels and clothes they will never be able to afford. This is what Republicanism really looks like, it looks just like TV evangelists taking your money.
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 04:38 AM
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1. I have found that an even better argument
is to point out that Bush had 8 years to limit abortion.
Do you think McCain will be different? Roe v Wade is here to stay, so the best thing to do is stop unwanted pregnancies if you really are that concerned about abortion.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 05:17 AM
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2. What would Republicans do without the
Abortion issue? Think of the loss of these hundreds of thousands of one issue voters they could lose. Believe me, Republicans have no REAL interest in overturning Roe vs Wade. And that is another thing that needs to "get out".
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 05:24 AM
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3. OKNancy!
how you been?!

I agree; it is quite obvious to me that the repukes NEED abortion as a stupid wedge issue so it would not really benefit them if it was successfully outlawed; funny how their pinhead supporters cannot see this
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 05:47 AM
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4. LOL - I've been posting up a storm for a few weeks now
I left for a little while during the primaries. It got too hateful.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 06:00 AM
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5. I agree with that!!!
I'm primarily a night poster - time for me to go to bed now. Nice to see you! :)
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 06:31 AM
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8. !
:hug:
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 07:35 AM
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9. back at you!!
:toast:
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shaniqua6392 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 06:05 AM
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6. Also, tell him poverty creates more abortions.
I am a Christian Democrat and I know that we have to raise people up, give them jobs, improve our education system, improve quality of life, and pay for birth control and sterilization in order to decrease abortions. The Christian voters in this country who vote for Republicans because of this issue alone are completely wrong. Leave Roe v. Wade alone. It was rightly decided and it should stay in place. Be a REAL Christian and help to make this country a better place. Jesus would not campaign to repeal Roe....He would help the lesser of these, His children.
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Poseidan Donating Member (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 06:28 AM
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7. maybe those people are hopeless
Edited on Wed Oct-22-08 06:42 AM by Poseidan
Embryo's are not babies. 1 is not 4. When you buy eggs from the store and you crack one open, there is no baby chicken inside.

The people who call abortion 'killing babies' must be complete lunatics.

Hopefully they learn soon, abortion is not a matter for government... if they want the abortion of pregnancies to stop, they should not turn to government. And if they keep up with this 'baby-killing' nonsense indictment, they won't win over any reasonable person. No one is forcing you to have abortions. If you think abortion is wrong, don't have one. Why turn to government, as if you are incapable of making your own decisions? Or maybe you just want to admonish responsibility?
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 07:43 AM
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10. I hadn't thought of them like "TV Evangelists taking your money"
before but it fits.
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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 07:54 AM
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11. They will never stop abortions and they know it. They just want to
push them into dark alleys so they can ignore them, instead of working to eliminate the causes for them.
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