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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 12:49 PM
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ACLU Demands Information on Military Deployment Within US Borders
Deployment Erodes Longstanding Separation Between Civilian and Military Government

NEW YORK - October 21 - The American Civil Liberties Union today demanded information from the government about reports that an active military unit has been deployed inside the U.S. to help with "civil unrest" and "crowd control" - matters traditionally handled by civilian authorities. This deployment jeopardizes the longstanding separation between civilian and military government, and the public has a right to know where and why the unit has been deployed, according to an ACLU Freedom of Information request filed today.

"The military's deployment within U.S. borders raises critical questions that must be answered," said Jonathan Hafetz, staff attorney with the ACLU National Security Project. "What is the unit's mission? What functions will it perform? And why was it necessary to deploy the unit rather than rely on civilian agencies and personnel and the National Guard? Given the magnitude of the issues at stake, it is imperative that the American people know the truth about this new and unprecedented intrusion of the military in domestic affairs."

According to a report in the Army Times, the Army recently deployed an active military unit inside the United States under Northern Command, which was established in 2002 to assist federal homeland defense efforts and coordinate defense support of civil authorities. This deployment marks the first time an active unit has been given a dedicated assignment to Northern Command.

Civilian authorities, not the military, have historically controlled and directed the internal affairs of the United States. This rule traces its origins to the nation's founding and has been reaffirmed in landmark statutes including the Posse Comitatus Act, which helps preserve the foundational principles of our Constitution and democracy.

"This is a radical departure from separation of civilian law enforcement and military authority, and could, quite possibly, represent a violation of law," said Mike German, ACLU national security policy counsel and former FBI Agent. "Our Founding Fathers understood the threat that a standing army could pose to American liberty. While future generations recognized the need for a strong military to defend against increasingly capable foreign threats, they also passed statutory protections to ensure that the Army could not be turned against the American people. The erosion of these protections should concern every American."

In order to assess the implications of the recent deployment, the ACLU requested the Departments of Justice, Homeland Security and Defense today to immediately make public all legal opinions, executive orders, presidential directives, memos, policy guidance, and other documents that authorize the deployment of military troops for domestic purposes.

Since the terrorist attacks of 9/11, the Department of Defense has dramatically expanded its role in domestic law enforcement and intelligence operations, including the National Security Agency's warrantless wiretapping programs, the Department of Homeland Security's use of military spy satellites, and the participation of military personnel in state and local intelligence fusion centers. The ACLU has repeatedly expressed concern about these incremental encroachments of the military into domestic affairs, and the assignment of active duty troops to Northern Command only heightens these concerns.

A copy of the ACLU's information request is available online at: www.aclu.org/safefree/general/37272lgl20081021.html

http://www.commondreams.org/newswire/2008/10/21-4
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 12:52 PM
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1. Yet another request that will be used by the Bushies as toilet paper...
The ACLU needs to be a little more aggressive with their wording.
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Shoelace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 12:55 PM
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2. good on ACLU
scary stuff this! :scared:
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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 01:02 PM
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3. Don't worry...
It's just ECOMCON.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 01:26 PM
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6. the bailout stabilization plan
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 01:06 PM
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4. More importantly, who are they selecting to man those platoons?
If they were hand-picked on a partisan basis, I would really be nervous.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 01:58 PM
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7. I think Army Times reported that
the entire First Brigade was going to be available to Northcom on October 1.

I think I may have to scrounge together some cash to send to the ACLU for a membership. Long overdue!
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bkkyosemite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 01:09 PM
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5. When I first heard this some time back I thought what are they up to and why
I still want answers to those questions and then today I thought hmmm. With all the viscious racist hateful speech towards Obama in the last weeks perhaps they know he will win and need a much bigger group to calm those brainwashed religious fanatics. Who will be crazed when their control of the White House by illegal means is finally taken away. They are already showing what poor losers they are by acting out in fear of their loss. Just a thought.
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Duncan Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 03:21 PM
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8. I saw a bunch of weathered looking military vehicles and troops
heading north up interstate 95 in Virginia (to DC perhaps?) a few weeks ago. I fear they are going to be stationed near DC to squash any protest after the election is hijacked.
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Pooka Fey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 03:44 PM
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9. K&R
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 09:09 PM
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10. Preparing for protests after another stolen election? n/t
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newtothegame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 09:49 PM
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11. Good for them n/t
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 10:04 PM
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12. The ACLU has A CLUe.
Thank gawd someone does.


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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 01:04 AM
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13. Good for them!!!! It is good to know that SOMEONE is watching ..
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 01:11 AM
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14. DONATE and defend the Bill of Rights an stuff n/t
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live love laugh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 04:43 AM
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15. They are planning to steal the election and for you to be mad as hell. nt
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KayLaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 08:19 AM
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20. Maybe.
We'll find out soon enough.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 05:27 AM
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16. Good
K&R
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 07:56 AM
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17. K&R
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 07:59 AM
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18. Where are the freepers and militias? Can you imagine the level of outrage
if this occurred under a Clinton administration??
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 08:03 AM
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19. Can I please assume that EVERYONE on this board
is a card carrying, dues paying member?
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 08:20 AM
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21. Proud Card Carrier, I am!
:toast: to the ACLU!


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MsLeopard Donating Member (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 12:51 PM
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22. Proud card carrying member as well
Since 2002 - wonder why I joined then?
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Dervish Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 01:43 PM
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23. it's official
it's been a long time coming....but we've reached an official fascist police state. Invoking of an external enemy, warrantless wiretapping, socialism for corporations instead of the people...and now, a domestic military to "protect us." fuck neo cons
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 03:14 PM
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26. Hi Dervish...
welcome to DU!
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NoFederales Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 01:55 PM
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24. I want to know who they are and where they are! nt
NoFederales
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JimDandy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 02:22 PM
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25. The military unit being deployed in the U.S. is a COMBAT brigade
The 1st Brigade, 3rd Infantry Division is based at Fort Stewart, Ga. A brigade has between 1,500 and 3,200 soldiers. This brigade has been in the Iraqi war zone for the last TWO YEARS! How insane is that to deploy those type of soldiers on U.S. soil?

Here's more info:

http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/contributors/1813

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/09/army_homeland_090708w/
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KayLaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 06:18 PM
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28. The second link doesn't work
The screen says it's gone AWOL. Interesting.
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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-22-08 04:09 PM
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27. November surprise?
Time to give ACLU more money.
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