why hasn't the media sought out william ayers and confronted him on his 'domestic terrorism?'

[spanone]

after all, if this man is soooo dangerous, perhaps he deserves closer scrutiny......

[formercia]

1. Because he looks and acts harmlessly

John Mc:evilgrin: looks and speaks much more dangerously.

[dbonds]

2. It is possible he was FBI or CIA infiltrating the Weather Underground.

He couldn't give a statement if that we so.

[formercia]

5. I think the Weather Underground was a government creation

as part of the concept of 'Strategic Tension.'

[dbonds]

6. Could be, their tactics were out of sync with the broader movement.

[formercia]

11. It was in sync with COINTELPRO

If you read the book 'Agents of Repression', it describes how the Feds infiltrated the AIM and Black Panthers and fomented violence where none would have occurred otherwise, so it fits right in with the period and methodology.

[cliffordu]

12. You are exactly right.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bastards_of_the_Party


"Bastards of the party' is an HBO documentary about the beginnings of the Crips and Bloods in Los Angeles, and links COINTELPRO to events that formed these two gangs.....

Interesting horror show in a non-tinfoil hat documentary.....

[formercia]

15. They did the same type of thing on the Reservation

They hired members of the tribes, called the GOONS, to engage in violence against people that were sympathetic or members of AIM. Many people who came to help people on the reservation simply disappeared and their bodies were never found. Black on Black, Native peoples killing Native Peoples.Divide and conquer is the name of the game.

Hate speech does the same thing.

[cliffordu]

17. YEs it does.. I think that there will be this kind of trouble after the election

carried out by ex-blackwater types at the behest of the PNAC/NEOCON hardcore believers.....


Even though they will be out of power I think they are as dangerous as snakes....

[formercia]

18. Even with the financial meltdown, the powers that be can make trouble.

They may not be able to harass everyone they would like to but many will be singled out for special treatment.
Even during the Clinton years, I had to endure a lot of harassment. It wasn't as intense as what occurs when Bush Gang is in power but they did make my workplace miserable. I have 26 years experience in dealing with the boys. If there's a dirty trick in their playbook, I've probably been the recipient at least once. After a while they get pretty predictable and it becomes entertainment to see how long you can string them along on the snipe hunt.

The point I would like to make about Ayers is that if he had truly been a terrorist, the boys would have never let him succeed in life. Most people who are their targets wind up homeless, in prison or dead, usually from suicide.
The first several years under the boot was pretty rough until I was able to adapt to living off the grid. Their first goal is to keep you from settling down and making a life for yourself. They do this by eliminating any means of support that you might have and alienating you from any friends or family. The next stage, once they have you broken down and destitute, is to tempt you with activities that will get you throw in prison. Sex, Drugs, guns, explosives, fraud, whatever it takes to get you to take the bait. Once you're in the can, you're at their mercy.
My lucky break was that I had a VA comp check every month from a permanent disability. No matter how hard they tried, and I'm sure they did, they couldn't take that away. I learned to live on $50. a month. I even spent one Winter alone in the National Forest. Alone, except for my surveillance. The local rangers made a lot of overtime following me around. They were sorry to see me leave.

[Fuzz]

3. Actually a good question.

[Xenotime]

13. No it isn't. What's to investigate? Freedom of speech.

[gratuitous]

4. That question occurred to me, as well

If Ayers is such a dangerous madman, why not invite him on a program or two and expose him for the good of all America? It's a curious thing that so much conversation has been had about him without him.

[alcibiades_mystery]

7. Bill Ayers is far too smart to play their game

You can't win as an ordinary citizen when the media wants you discredited. He's doing the best thing possible for himself, his family, and his students: not providing them with an ounce of footage from which to draw value.

[spanone]

8. i haven't seen any signs of him refusing to talk????

[Cass]

9. Great question! McCain says he doesn't give a damn about Ayers

but if he is the big bad terrorist like he and Palin say he is, why doesn't McCain care? Why aren't federal agents taking Ayers into custody? Why are republicans sitting idly by while a domestic terrorist roams the streets of Chicago?

McCain and Palin look like idiots harping on this. The economy is in a shambles and all they can manage to get worked up about is Ayers who turned himself in for his crimes, was prosecuted and the charges were dropped. It reminds me of the republicans in the 90s who spent years on a witch-hunt against the Clintons while neglecting important business like terrorism.

[Caliman73]

10. It is easier to spread lies when no one is around to refute them.

Just like McCain learned from the debates, you can't call someone inexperienced and have them standing next to you poised and sounding as if they were the most experienced person there. McCain looked like an idiot saying Obama didn't understand, just to have Obama explain to the people exactly what and how he understands perfectly clearly whatever nonsense McCain had just said. If the media brings Ayers out and questions him, they may get an answer that takes away controversy and therefore ratings. They like things just the way they are. A dangerous train wreck plays much better than a whimpering and sputtering campaign that just fizzles out.

[riverdeep]

14. Because then they would have to deal with reality.

His actual quote for example. The one about him wishing he had blown up more buildings. A fabrication. What he said was actually to the effect of 'I wish I had done more (to stop the Vietnam war).' From that, they took it to 'I wish I had blown up more buildings.'

Or the fact that he had become quite an integrated part of the establishment and was associating with lots of people from all parts of the spectrum, and a prominent member of his field. If G. Gordon Liddy 'served his sentence' according to McCain (with whom he mos def did pal around with), then what about someone who never served time?

He definitely is doing the right thing, and he may be doing it for himself, and he may be doing it for Obama too, I don't know. Unlike Jeremiah Wright who couldn't keep his yap shut and finally caused a parting of ways, maybe Ayers knows speaking up to 'straighten out the record' could just provide another news cycle or two for Palinites to lob more bombs (no pun intended). His story requires some amount of subtlety to understand, and that's one thing that's in short supply on the other side.

[old mark]

16. Why spoil a good story with facts? nt

[baldguy]

19. Last time he spoke about his involvement, he was screwed over.

He's repeatedly described as an "unrepentent terrorist" , in spite of the fact that he was aquited of all the charges against him, and he's always expressed regret for his actions.