I want to see the Washington Post print a very large retraction tomorrow..

[Virginia Dare]

because if they don't they're going to have to call Valerie Plame Wilson a liar and back it up with proof. She has shot down every false meme that they've been repeating for months now.

I won't hold my breath.

[demnan]

1. Yeah, but don't count on it

the arrogance of the people who produce that newspaper is so profound they believe they make their own reality.

[AValdoux]

2. Here's their coverage today

They are still arguing her status. No mention of the CIA's statement that she was definitely covert and her statement that she had been outside the US on a covert mission in the last 5 years.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/16/AR2007031600276_2.html


AValdoux

[CottonBear]

3. If the CIA said so and conducted an internal investigation into the leak

then what sentient being could not understand that she was, indeed, covert?

To admit this fact would mean that Bush, Cheney, et al , lied about WMDs in Iraq. It's as simple as that.

[blm]

5. Just the fact that CIA demanded the investigation of an agent's identity leak would

establish her status as a FACT.

IF the corporate media was interested in actual FACTS and not in protecting the election of Bush/Cheney2004 and their campaign storyline that this WH is run by men of integrity who are stoically protecting this nation's security.

Focking corporate media KNEW the truth about this story in the first month it all went down, but chose to play dumb and carry the WH's water for them for the 16 months before the election.

[dogday]

12. That has been my point from the beginning

It was the CIA who requested that the Justice Department look into this and they did....

[laughingloudly]

4. Then why....

didn't Fitzgerald charge anybody with "outing a covert agent" since there is a law that specifically prohibits doing this? It seems that after a 2-year investigation (which he has now officially closed and said there is nothing further to investigate and has declined an offer to testify to the Congressional Cmte) that he would have uncovered the fact of her covert status and then charged someone for it.

This must be some kind of Rove conspiracy! I wonder what he has on Fitzgerald!

[Virginia Dare]

6. Fitzgerald actually addressed that...

it was when he used the allegory of throwing sand in the umpire's face. I think Fitzgerald genuinely thought a crime had been committed, but because of Scooter Libby's perjury, he couldn't prove it.

My theory is that Dick Cheney was the one who deliberately divulged Valerie Plame's name, vis a vis Scooter Libby and Karl Rove, knowing full well her status. Libby and Rove covered for him, somebody covered for Rove, but Libby will go to jail for it, so it will never be proven.

Welcome to DU!!!

[Warren Stupidity]

7. Because liars in the VP office prevented such a prosecution.

So far one of those liars has been convicted for both lying and obstructing justice.

Go back and fetch another talking point.

[laughingloudly]

8. but.....

Libby admitted he told reporters about Plame working at CIA. So did Rove! With such a confession, why couldn't they be prosecuted for "outing" her if she was "covert"? Why didn't they charge Armitage (who Woodward and Novak both said told them first, and he admitted it)? The sentencing recommendations for outing a covert agent are much harsher than perjury or obstruction. Why not hit him with the more serious charge (and Rove, too)?

Curioser and curiouser!

[Richard Steele]

9. Justice was denied because Libby OBSTRUCTED it. What part of that is too difficult for you?

I would have thought a guy with "multiple advanced degrees"
would be able to grasp such a simple concept.

Enjoy your time at DU. :eyes:

[TankLV]

20. I think we have another one!

Toying with them is sooo much fun!

[never cry wolf]

21. Definitely

I just checked all the previous posts.

[alcibiades_mystery]

14. Because the statute requires intent

And it was on that point that the obstruction prevented the determination. It's amusing to see an ideologist like yourself mystified by something any 8 year old would understand, simply because your ideology blinds you.

[dogday]

15. First of all you have to prove intent

That is a hard thing to prove... Not that the crime was committed, but the intent to do the crime is what is prosecutable by law... If there was no intent, there should of been no problem with everyone telling the truth... There were problems with who said what to whom, who leaked what....

Also it does not hurt when you have the Pres and VP declassifying documents....

[Virginia Dare]

22. If there was no crime, then why did Libby feel compelled to

lie? That's the curious part.

[myrna minx]

10. Fitzgerald had declared the investigation as "in-active" not closed.

The law in itself is so narrowly written that it is challenging to actually charge anyone with that specific crime. Libby obstructed the investigation, therefore Fitzgerald was unable to get to determine what crimes, if any, were committed. Unless Libby sings, the investigation is stalled.

[alcibiades_mystery]

11. Are you stupid or something?

The whole point of bringing obstruction of justice charges is because the convicted felon who obstructed justice prevented a determination on the underlying offense. Fitzgerald has NEVER said that there was no underlying crime, so don't be a liar or an imbecile.

[Richard Steele]

13. I vote for "or something".

KnowhutImean?

[senseandsensibility]

16. Yes, Virginia, there really is a free press in America

Sorry, couldn't resist.:) I'll wait with you and hope for the best.

[Jacobin]

17. WaPo's ombudsman needs to change his title to I'mAButtMan

:hi:

[blm]

19. Heh - I'mWhiHoButtMan

.

[Uncle Joe]

18. That would require integrity, and

I've been waiting for just about 8 years for them to come out and apologize to Al Gore for their non-stop slanders to no avail, apparently integrity is out of fashion with them.

I don't blame you for not holding your breath.

[BuyingThyme]

23. Bob Woodward is a lying criminal. They will protect him until

he takes them down.