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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 12:53 PM
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Poll question: There is a Republican Party criminal conspiracy being conducted nationwide to deny voting rights.
I know that's a true statement here in Wisconsin, here's a couple of recent links about this fact.

"U.S. Supreme Court order in Ohio voting case cited in Wisconsin lawsuit" by Patrick Marley (10-17-2008 Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel)
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=807446

"GOP Exploits ACORN Probe" by Jason Leopold (10-17-2008 Consortium News)
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2008/101708b.html

Like I said I know that there is a Republican Party criminal conspiracy in progress to deny citizens their right to vote.

After I post this poll I'm heading over to our local Democratic campaign center to spend the rest of the day fighting other GOP criminal conspiracies directed at Democratic candidates.

Where are you at, DU, when it comes to ACKNOWLEDGEMENT of the reality of POLITICAL CONSPIRACIES? Participate in this poll, I'm sure you have regional/local examples that you can post about these REPUBLICAN PARTY CRIMINALS.

Btw, there are effective COUNTER-MEASURES that will lead to PROSECUTION.

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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 12:53 PM
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1. There is and has been
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 12:57 PM
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2. It's the only way they can "win" elections.
Edited on Sat Oct-18-08 12:58 PM by roamer65
The Rethuglicans need to be crushed in this election and the party disbanded.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 01:01 PM
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3. Of course there is. They ran our Dem Secretary of State out of office
in 2005, iirc, because he was the first one in the country to push back against Diebold -- and the San Francisco Chronicle helped them do it, smearing him in big giant headlines for WEEKS.

Then, we were stuck with a Republican who did his best to force those machines down our throat -- going to the extreme of holding public hearings WITHOUT notifying the public and alternately, not showing up himself when the public did show up. He was a piece of work.

They want CA badly.
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 01:03 PM
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4. It's the last chance they have to save themselves.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 01:08 PM
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5. RICO
;)


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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 01:13 PM
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7. Didn't NOLA have "power outages" in 2004? n/t
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 01:26 PM
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9. For sure during hurricane Ivan
There were problems during the election, but I cannot remember specifics at this time. Yo estaba tocando música (fazendo música pagode com meus amigos Brasileiros... muchos estudiantes de America Latina... tocando samba, etc....una fiesta) todo anoche... acabo de levantarme... :hangover:
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Duke Newcombe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 01:11 PM
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6. Par for the course in "R" land...
We can't let this thing be close enough to steal, gang.

Then again, I'm probably preaching to the converted here.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 01:14 PM
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8. I said this last week--that I feared another stolen election.
I was labeled a concern troll. I'm still concerned.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 01:33 PM
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10. Well, anyone who isn't concerned isn't paying attention.
You won't believe this: I'm watching a panel from yesterday on electronic voting. Paul DeGregorio is speaking. He was the CHAIRMAN of the Election Assistance Commission 2006-2007. He's DEFENDING those damn machines that countless experts have told us, and that our own experience tells us, are POS!
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 01:41 PM
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11. "GOP Attacks on American Voters Turn Desperate, Ugly and Dangerous" by Bob Fitrakis and Harvey
Wasserman (10-10-2008 Free Press repost from Truthout)
http://www.truthout.org/101108B
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 02:50 PM
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12. You can't make this stuff up!!!
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 03:02 PM
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13. That Little PRICK vanhollen Will Fail and Have A SHORT Stint As Wisconsin's AG
Can't stand that little fucker.

Oh yeah, K & R!
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 03:37 PM
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14. Not only that, but it's been going on since 2005
Edited on Sat Oct-18-08 03:39 PM by starroute
Immediately after the last presidential election, leading GOP operatives started gearing up for the next one. One good place to start looking at this is with the so-called "American Center for Voting Rights," which was founded at the start of 2005. (Just google on it -- there's a lot out there.)

Of particular interest are ACVR's cofounders Jim Dyke and "Thor" Hearne, both of whom had been making claims of voter registration irregularities in Ohio during the 2004 elections. (See, for example, http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/29/politics/campaign/29ohio.html?_r=1&pagewanted=print&position=&oref=slogin for a 2004 story about Dyke's involvement in Republican attempts to challenge Ohio voter registrations.)

Dyke was RNC communications director in 2003-04, and he and Tim Griffin, who was then the deputy communications director, specialized in things like planting stories about John Kerry's $150 haircuts. (http://www.randomhouse.com/catalog/display.pperl?isbn=9781400064472&view=excerpt)

Dyke also set up anti-Kerry websites using the same rnc.com servers that hosted the email accounts used by RNC and White House staff for their off-the-books activities -- such as planning the firing of US Attorneys for not pursuing specious claims of voter fraud.

Tim Griffin, for his part, also directed the 2004 RNC vote caging operation. He later became Karl Rove's assistant in September 2005, then was part of the US Attorney scandal, and has recently surfaced again to recommend that ACORN be prosecuted as a criminal enterprise. (See Glenn Greenwald at http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/10/12/griffin/ for a good rundown on Griffin.)

Hearne served as national counsel to the 2004 Bush campaign, but he'd previously gained attention in 2000 for making claims about voter fraud in Missouri.

Both Dyke and Hearne left their official positions immediately after the 2004 election to create this nominally "non-partisan" voter fraud group, ACVR, which immediately started being called upon as a source of expert testimony by Republicans like Bob Ney.

So, yeah, this is not just a GOP conspiracy -- it's one you don't even have to believe in conspiracy theory to recognize, because it's all out in the open. The same people have been doing the same things for the last four years, and they don't even particularly bother to hide it.

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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 04:00 PM
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15. Without Doubt, Mr. Drummer
Edited on Sat Oct-18-08 04:01 PM by The Magistrate
Prosecution of these criminals should be a first priority of the Justice Department in President Obama's administration.

"Kill one, warn one hundred."
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 04:47 PM
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16. It's more than that. It's a full scale war.
The Republican Party is a criminal organization that steals both our elections and our taxes.

The Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt campaign against Obama is astonishing at this point. You can't turn on talk radio without hearing some Republican operative claiming "I'd vote for Obama, but..."

I'd like to hear a radio host cut them right off with, "but what? You're a racist right wing crap peddler?"

All the local right wingers around here scurry away like cockroaches if it even looks like you might challenge them. I'd hate to live in a place where they feel free to masturbate in public.



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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 04:47 PM
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17. Nothing new. Been going on since 2000, at the latest.
Perhaps we can do something about it next year.

-Laelth
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