Q: Will there be more violence if Obama wins or Loses ????

[cliffordu]

I AM concerned about this after seeing all the hate in the videos at the Palin rallys....

We are close to a tipping point, I think......

[babylonsister]

1. No we're not. Obama will win, there will be no violence.

:toast:

The r/w have big mouths.

My prediction.

[EFerrari]

3. I trained for years to develop a spidey sense and predict Doug's upsets

because they could be lethal. All my alarms have been ringing.

I'd so love to be wrong and to have you or any DUer laugh at me.

:hug:

We'll be okay.

[babylonsister]

21. No one knows, but I want to laugh - OUT LOUD! It's time.

:hug:

[cliffordu]

15. I certainly hope you're right, babylonsister...Your instincts are pretty good, sooo

maybe I'll just put the tinfoil away for a little bit.....

[EFerrari]

2. It won't wait that long.

I think we'll see violence soon. Buckle up, my dears, and please stay aware.

[jwirr]

4. I am very worried about the rw idiots if they lose. They are getting

worse every day and there is no one who actually has any control over them. Yes, mcshame and failin palin push their buttons but they do not know how to turn them off. As to our side - if it is stolen there may be violence otherwise I assume we will just set back and take it again. However, we do have a leader and he can ask us to act according to his wishes.

[man4allcats]

7. If it gets stolen, and I doubt they can pull

that off at this point, but if it does, I hope we won't just sit back and take it. The following comes to mind:

"When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

- Emphasis added -

[jwirr]

13. I know that passage well but all violence scares me. Hopefully we

will not be forced into this.

[man4allcats]

19. It scares me, too. It is supposed to scare everyone, but

there are times when it is necessary and right to do that which is scary. Like all decent people, I hope it will not come to that, but it might. The Greatest Generation faced that terror and triumphed. If we are put in the same position, I can only hope we will show such bravery. If we do not, all our dreams and everything those people fought for will die.

[raysr]

20. No, they don't know how to turn them off.

Once religious zealots got into the mix that was the end of reason.

[BrklynLiberal]

5. Part of me sure hopes there will be alot of violence if Obama loses!!!!!

[rzemanfl]

6. Obama can only "lose" if it is stolen again. Whether people

would stand for that again or not, who knows?

[EmeraldCityGrl]

8. Bernie Sanders spoke about this on Bill Maher this evening.

I'm pretty sure it's not going to come to that.
I'm wodering if when Obama addresses the nation
five days before the election, he'll put all these fears to rest.
I think he will.

[FLyellowdog]

10. Good point. Being the honorable man he is, he'll address it.

[gratuitous]

9. It will be more violent when Obama wins

Because that's the way the right rolls. When they can't win, they cheat. When they can't cheat, they lash out. And it will be exponentially worse because they lost to a black man.

[cliffordu]

16. This is truly what I am afraid of, what with that Army division being activated

for domestic duty and the 150,000 Blackwater "Force Multiplyers'out running around....

[Laelth]

11. Depends on whether the election is _obviously_ stolen.

McCain earns credible victory = minimal (but some) violence.
Obama wins = considerable, racial violence.
McCain very obviously steals election = revolution or martial law and a dictatorship.

I hope I am wrong about this.

-Laelth

[morillon]

12. I can see where you're coming from, I think, but...

I honestly believe we're going to be okay. I didn't feel that way when those videos first came out, but they've gotten enough exposure now that I'm actually feeling better that things WON'T escalate into violence. I'm not ruling out isolated incidents, but violence on a large scale seems unlikely to me.

When Obama wins, some of the far right may make asses of themselves, and they'll be dealt with accordingly by law enforcement. If for some reason the election is stolen -- and even the freepers know that's the only way McCain could come out ahead -- then Obama will set the direction for how we all respond. I trust him to do the right thing. It might be something like a general strike, some kind of peaceful but powerful response that would get the point across. I'd be totally on board with that, even if it meant I'd lose my contracting gig. Can you imagine what the stock market would do on the heels of an OBVIOUSLY stolen election? And then a nationwide strike?

[cliffordu]

18. It's odd that I don;t automatically go there - that Obama will set the tone, and

people WILL respond to what he says....

Unless it's blatant theft and martial law...then all bets are off.....

[scheming daemons]

14. The people at Palin rallies are too gutless to organize violence....

[cliffordu]

17. They DO smack of cowards, don't they??