Clarification: redistribution of wealth to the wealthy is FASCISM not SOCIALISM!

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

Fair taxation is DEMOCRATIC, indicative of DEMOCRACY, not MARXISM! :rolleyes:

I am getting f*cking SICK of the RWers throwing that BS around in such a freakin' reckless and harmful manner! Each and every one of them should be sued for misrepresentation, fraud, libel, slander and whatever else is on the books to STOP such sick behavior that HARMS THE PUBLIC!!!

DAYUM IT!!!! :mad:

[ananda]

1. Just remember that it's easy to buy into the false meme that..

.. socialism or marxism is bad.

Both have much to offer that is good.

[Kitty Herder]

3. Agreed. nt

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

4. None of the above, including corporatism, works in a democracy when,....

,...there is unequal application of unequal laws.

While all these super-inflated and charged terms of marxism and socialism and communism are thrown around in THIS nation, a nation literally choking from favor to corporatism (as evidence by HUGE DEBTS ALL THE WAY AROUND,...and "the people" suffer the burden while profiteers are getting off scott-free in spite their fraud and abuses *UCK*), have you noticed how the substance and meaning and ideal of "democracy" have been completely LOST?

For gosh sakes, Americans,...do not believe your "lying" eyes watching democracy fade. The most powerful must pacify you so, as your choices become even more limited and your debt to a corporate nation continues to increase, your ONLY value is as another cog in that corporate wheel, a wheel you will NEVER own.

You live in a corporate governance, not a democracy or socialist/communist/marxist form of existence.

[Kitty Herder]

2. Thanks for bringing up that point.

I'm sick of people referring to the bailout as socialism. It's not. It's FASCISM. The meaning of the word fascism has mostly been lost. It just gets tossed around as a meaningless epithet. We need to remember that fascism = corporatism, according to both Mussolini and FDR.

[EFerrari]

5. That is correct. n/t

[Waiting For Everyman]

6. K&R

[leftstreet]

7. K&R

[babylonsister]

8. What about taking care of the middle class? Socialism?

I can live with that if it helps. Convince me otherwise.

[nadinbrzezinski]

9. You should know that Obama is a commie

yep... that according to Reagan... who was telling his audience just how much of a red he is

what was funny is younger listeners had NO CLUE what he was talking about...

The ignorance is not shocking any more though

[psomniferum]

10. Corporatism, yeah...

The thing that gets me is the abuse of language that goes on in these scare tactics. Forgive me if I'm just elaborating on what lies do, but these acts of willful perversion comprise anti-social acts by degrading consensus meaning. What does it mean for culture and society when definitions are as malleable as they seem when so consistently warped in the media? What does that do to our social fabric and to the "very fabric of democracy" when language is used like this? It's beyond Newspeak. These acts of linguistic insurrection threaten consensus reality and lend themselves to tribalism.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

11. Use words to mean what they actually mean.

Fascism does not mean "redistribution of wealth to the wealthy" - that does not happen under all fascist systems, and it happens under many non-fascist ones, e.g. modern-dy America.

Democracy is nothing to do with fair taxation - many democracies, again including modern day America, do not have fair taxation.

[JVS]

13. "redistribution of wealth to the wealthy" Isn't that by definition capitalism?

[Donald Ian Rankin]

14. No, of course not.

Many non-capitalist systems do that (feudalism leaps to mind, and it also tends to happen under communism); a capitalist system with progressive taxation wouldn't necessarily do so.

[machI]

12. Kick

[OneGrassRoot]

15. Most of those people spouting off wouldn't know the truth of an "ism"...

if it bit them in the ass.