Ok look what I found its a rant including Joe the plumber Help I need to have a smart response

[southernleftylady]

I do blog give aways and this one blog I went too had a rant in it... I want to respond but I'm not too good with writing my thoughts down in a good way so please yall help me out here here is her rant:
That’s Not Wealth They’re Spreading Around
I tried to keep my mouth shut.

I can’t take it anymore!

Joe The Plumber pays more taxes.

Joe The Plumber has less discretionary income to spend.

So Joe The Plumber doesn’t buy a new car.

The car manufactures have less business, so they make less cars.

That means the car manufacturers order less parts from my husband’s employer.

My husband’s employer loses money.

My husband loses his job.

Then we have no money to spend.

All the companies who benefited from our spending earn less.

Then more people lose their jobs.

What don’t you get about this people?!!!

Trickle down economics?

Oh, yeah!

It really does run down hill.

Just ask Joe the Plumber.

He knows a lot about “it.”

[notadmblnd]

1. Joe the plumber OWES back taxes

Joe the plumber doesn't pay his taxes at all

Joe the plumber had a new truck in his driveway

Car manufacturers off shored jobs and laid off the people who bought their cars

Car companies lose money (did they really think the chinese would buy them?)

Husband loses job due to corporate greed

Husband has no money to spend

all companies who benefited from Americans having good jobs lose money (again, did they really think the Indians would buy their goods?)

then more people lose their jobs

What is it you people don't get about cheap labor republicans?

[Whoa_Nelly]

2. You need to post the facts story re: "Joe the Plumber"

and how the whole hoorah about "Joe" is a plant and a lie, how "Joe" is not really a plumber, is not buying his boss' biz, how his boss' biz actually only makes about $100k, etc.

some linksto use:
McCain said “Joe the plumber” faced “much higher taxes” under Obama’s tax plan and would pay a fine under Obama’s health care plan if he failed to provide coverage for his workers. But Ohio plumber Joe Wurzelbacher would pay higher taxes only if the business he says he wants to buy puts his income over $200,000 a year, and his small business would be exempt from Obama’s requirement to provide coverage for workers.

Update Oct. 16: ABC News reported the morning after the debate that Wurzelbacher admitted to a reporter that he won't actually make enough from his new plumbing business to pay Obama's higher tax rates. ABC said his admission "would seem to indicate that he would be eligible for an Obama tax cut."
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/factchecking_debate_no_3.html



Joe “the Plumber” Wurzelbacher related to Charles “the Crook” Keating. Oops.
October 15th, 2008 . by Marty

John McCain did great tonight in the debate. But every time John mentioned “Joe the Plumber,” some of us in the campaign banged our heads against the wall. If Steve Schmidt had any hair left, I hear he would have been pulling it out tonight. He reportedly screamed at John’s debate prep team tonight (out of earshot of reporters, of course). “You idiots - he’s related to Charles Keating… of the Keating Five scandal!” They thought they had a real live Joe Six-Pack who’s spurned Barack Obama’s tax plan. But what they forgot to do was check on Joe Wurzelbacher’s background.

Turns out that Joe Wurzelbacher from the Toledo event is a close relative of Robert Wurzelbacher of Milford, Ohio. Who’s Robert Wurzelbacher? Only Charles Keating’s son-in-law and the former senior vice president of American Continental, the parent company of the infamous Lincoln Savings and Loan. The now retired elder Wurzelbacher is also a major contributor to Republican causes giving well over $10,000 in the last few years.

Does any of this make Joe the Plumber a bad guy? Of course not. In fact, after that ill-fated night at the Watergate, he may finally be giving plumbers a good name. But at a debate where John goes full bore on Obama for guilt-by-association with William Ayers (and dodges a bullet by Obama not mentioning Keating Five), the press is going to bring it back front and center by midday tomorrow once they delve deeper into the most popular plumber in America.

This might remind you of the Paris Hilton scandal - where one side of the McCain campaign attacked her in an ad, not realizing that her family were huge donors. I was the first to warn the campaign of the perils of miscommunication within the campaign, and that story flared for a week.

UPDATE: Sure enough, a few hours after posting this, the left wing haters at DailyKos posted (or shall I say copied?) their own revelations about Joe’s connections to Keating. Like I said to the campaign: Oops.

UPDATE AGAIN: This story certainly got traction, and I’ve had media requests all afternoon. It’s nice to see that Michelle Malkin linked to me even as she contends that the lefties have all sorts of weird conspiracies about poor old Joe. But even Michelle misses the point a little: it doesn’t really matter how Joe is related to Keating. What matters is that here we are talking about it when we should be talking about Obama and Ayers. The campaign really should have done a better job vetting the man they planned to reference 22 times in the last and final debate.

http://www.eisenstadtgroup.com/2008/10/15/joe-the-plumber-wurzelbacher-related-to-charles-keating-oops/

[mrreowwr_kittty]

3. I'll take a stab at it:

Joe the Plumber starts a plumbing business.

He has a hard time attracting qualified employees because the decline in his local school system has led to a high dropout rate and the graduation of a large percentage of people who are too functionally illiterate to read simple directions.

He can't afford to provide health benefits for the two decent trainees he manages to get, or even his own family, because McCain's health care plan is a joke.

When his employees (or their family members) get sick or injured, they delay getting treatment until they have to go to the emergency room, leading to a lot more missed work days. This is because the bullcrap high-deductible health insurance plan that was all they could afford with McCain's tax credit discouraged them from going to the doctor when the problem was in the early stages.

One of his trainees quits because health care bills have driven them into bankruptcy and they have to go live with relatives in another state.

Joe ends up laying off the other one because so many of his customers are unable to pay their bills because they lost their jobs, despite McCain giving those generous tax cuts to the wealthy. Turns out those wealthy people could hire cheaper workers overseas. Plus, who cares about the plumbing in your house when you're being foreclosed on?

Joe makes far less than $250K in his first year in business, and is so in debt that he ends up closing shop and filing for bankruptcy.

Joe files his taxes and 2010 and realizes that he's getting no tax cut at all under McCain's tax plan because - surprise! - he's not rich. He would have gotten a nice one under Obama's. Also, he would have gotten a tax credit for hiring American workers.

All of this is lost on Joe because he listens to Rush Limbaugh, who is blaming Joe's woes on libruls, brown people, and the Democratic Congress.

[Two Americas]

4. yes

And there is no road for him to use to get to his customers, eventually.

[southernleftylady]

5. Ok posted on there.. should be fun waiting for the response :) nt

[chalky]

6. You have ten households that each need a plumbing repair done.

Nine households take in $75,000 yearly but one household takes in over $200,000.

Under Obama’s plan:
The first 9 get a $1,800 tax cut, but the last guy only gets $500.
Which of these families can use the extra money to hire the plumber?
ALL OF THEM. (The last guy probably has enough money to cover the remaining $500 in repairs without worrying about paying his other bills).
So Joe the Plumber makes $10,000 off the families, maybe pays $300 in taxes off the jobs, and ends up with a total take home of $9700.

Under John McCain’s plan:
The last guy gets a $112 tax cut, but the rest of the families only get $60 each.
Which one of these families will use their extra money to hire the plumber?
ONLY THE GUY MAKING OVER $200,000. MAYBE. The rest will have to make do with duct tape on their pipes.
So Joe the Plumber makes $1,000.
But oh, wait, he’ll get $60.00 in personal tax cuts, maybe another $600 for the business, so he’s ahead a whopping $1,660.

Yep. That McCain—he’s certainly the best choice for Joe.

[southernleftylady]

7. Oh I feel like printing these up just so next time someone brings this upI can just give them this!