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Blue Diadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 01:11 PM
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Toledo Blade has article on no license "Joe" plumber, tax lien etc.
Edited on Thu Oct-16-08 01:12 PM by OurVotesCount-Ohio
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 01:13 PM
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1. This whole thing is a joke
It turned the debate into a farce.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 01:17 PM
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2. ON HIS TAX PROBLEMS:
According to public records, Mr. Wurzelbacher has been subject to two liens, each over $1,000, one of which — a personal tax lien — is still outstanding.
-snip
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/10/16/joe-in-the-spotlight/?hp





Moreover, for someone worried about his taxes, Wurzelbacher doesn't -- it appears - always pay them. A filing with the Lucas County Court of Common Pleas shows that he has had state tax liens filed against him, meaning he was either delinquent or didn't fully cover taxes that he owed.

A representative at the court explained that Wurzelbacher had not paid $1,182.98 of personal income tax. The state filed a lien on January 26, 2007, and the payment remains outstanding. But the court rep also cautioned that this all may have occurred without Wurzelbacher's knowledge.

-snip

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/16/joe-the-plumber-is-it-see_n_135211.html
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samdogmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 01:18 PM
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3. Yikes! I hope this guy gets a clue!
Way to speak out when your own "glass house" isn't exactly transparent. Good grief!

Tell me again, exactly how stupid are McCain/Palin voters/supporters?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 01:19 PM
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4. This guy is so gonna wish he hadn't said anything.
He's used to taking privacy for granted.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 01:21 PM
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6. I think he was a put-up job by the Republicans
And a very sloppy one at that. Did they think we weren't going to check? Before this is over, good old Joe-the-plumber is probably going to rue the day he ever agreed to be a Republican tool. I'm through playing Mr. Nice Guy with the Republicans scumbags who have ruined our country.
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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 03:17 PM
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14. This whole thing has been manufactured.
A set-up from the inital interview to the placement in the debate. McCain is pulling out all the stops on this one. Too bad, the didn't vet this asshole....just like they didn't vet their dumd as shit vp candidate.
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Blue Diadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 01:53 PM
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11. I might have felt sorry for him if he hadn't done so many interviews.
I wondered what was going on when I heard on the noon news that he was not giving anymore local interviews.
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Sheets of Easter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 01:19 PM
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5. The Blade is often on point with stuff like this.
Good find. :thumbsup:
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 01:24 PM
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8. The Toledo Blade is one of the finest papers in the country imho.
Their coverage of Tom Noe and Coingate should have won them a pullitzer, instead thanks to Fritz Wenzel, they did not:

Saving Ohio

Did a reporter with GOP ties suppress a story that could have cost Bush the White House?

By Bill Frogameni

Pages 1 2


October 6, 2005 | In April 2005, the Blade newspaper of Toledo, Ohio, began publishing a remarkable series of articles about a well-connected Republican donor, Tom Noe, chair of the Bush-Cheney 2004 campaign for Lucas County, which encompasses Toledo. The Blade, which had won a Pulitzer Prize for reporting in 2004, discovered that Noe, a Toledo coin dealer, was investing $50 million for the state through the novel practice of coin speculation: buying and selling rare coins to turn a profit. Noe, the Blade revealed, could not account for $10 million to $13 million in the fund.

The paper also divulged that Noe had been placed under federal investigation for allegedly laundering money -- perhaps state money -- to the Bush campaign. The Blade's initial reports on Noe started a chain reaction of related scandals for Ohio's dominant Republicans. Recently, Gov. Bob Taft pleaded no contest to accepting several gifts from influence peddlers -- including Noe -- without reporting them, as law requires. Noe is currently the subject of 13 investigations.

In November 2004, Lucas County was among the most hotly contested areas in the most hotly contested state. Kerry won the county by 45,000 votes, but George W. Bush went on to win Ohio by less than 120,000 votes, which swung the election for him.


But Bush's reelection may have been made possible by a Blade reporter with close ties to the Republican Party who reportedly knew about Noe's potential campaign violations in early 2004 but suppressed the story.

According to several knowledgeable sources, the Blade's chief political columnist, Fritz Wenzel, was told of Noe's potential campaign violations as early as January 2004. But according to Blade editors, Wenzel never gave the paper the all-important tip in early 2004.



-SNIP
http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2005/10/06/ohio/index.html



Zogby International spokesman Fritz Wenzel said that was the case in July when Syracuse Post-Standard reporter Glenn Coin wrote a story about Vice President Cheney’s visit to Utica for a fundraiser for Meier. Wenzel was quoted extensively in the article.

http://www.zogby.com/soundbites/ReadClips.dbm?ID=13587



However, as it turns out, both Wenzel and his son had personal relationships with the Noes, who even attended the son's wedding.

In fact, in March 2004, a couple of months after Wenzel got the tip, his son was elected to the Lucas County Republican Central Committee, and from April 15, 2005, to the end of May 2005, Wenzel's son was on the payroll of the Ohio Republican Party.

http://www.counterpunch.org/pringle06092006.html
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 01:23 PM
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7. K&R. Great stuff, the truth. nt
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 01:43 PM
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10. Joey and Sarah --- the gifts that keep on giving nt
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 01:31 PM
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9. Hey! Maybe he's waiting to buy that $250,000. business
Edited on Thu Oct-16-08 01:34 PM by Contrary1
before he bothers to get a plumbers' license.

First things first, ya know.

On edit:

"You must hold a state license do Electrical, HVAC, Refrigeration, Plumbing, or Hydronics work in Ohio. General construction contractors may need to be licensed at the local level."

http://www.contractors-license.org/oh/Ohio.html
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 02:12 PM
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12. Well of course he likes sarah, all the "teenage"repug boys like sarah, that's the
only reason she's so popular, they all got the hots for her.The repug women too probably.
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Blue Diadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 03:07 PM
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13. That's what I hear from my son's right-wing neighborhood.
All his neighbors are about phoney "Joe's" age and have the hots for her. :puke:
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