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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 05:58 AM Original message |
Is racism based more on hate, or fear? |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 06:00 AM Response to Original message |
1. i think it's hatred inspired by fear |
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lamp_shade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 06:00 AM Response to Original message |
2. I'd say 80% hate, 20% fear. |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 06:02 AM Response to Original message |
3. "Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." -- Master Yoda. n/t |
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Scriptor Ignotus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 10:07 AM Response to Reply #3 |
45. wise in the force you are - nt |
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bean fidhleir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 11:49 AM Response to Reply #3 |
54. Exactly - and it's circular, too. (nt) |
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JustAnotherGen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 06:03 AM Response to Original message |
4. I think |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 06:03 AM Response to Original message |
5. I agree with you: it's primarily fear-based... the 'hate' is just a manifestation of that fear |
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ThePowerofWill (462 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 04:04 PM Response to Reply #5 |
66. One problem with that. |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 04:22 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. different set of items to protect, same protection |
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ThePowerofWill (462 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 04:52 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. Not much to protect hunter gatherer wise. |
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old mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 06:03 AM Response to Original message |
6. There is so much more of this shit going on today it is |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 06:04 AM Response to Original message |
7. i don't think most of them are intelligent |
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KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 06:06 AM Response to Original message |
8. Control And Power |
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sickinohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 06:08 AM Response to Original message |
9. I think it is both. |
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Kind of Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 07:05 AM Response to Reply #9 |
26. "...I'm so glad that my thoughts have changed, and that my children don't feel the way that I did... |
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sickinohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 07:34 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Oh, thanks!! |
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Kind of Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 07:53 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. You're welcome! And IMHOP, I think you've hit THE answer for the OP.... |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 08:01 AM Response to Reply #9 |
37. As another poster said, you know better now. |
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sickinohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 08:16 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Thank you for the hug |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 06:09 AM Response to Original message |
10. I think it's caused mostly by socialization |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 08:39 AM Response to Reply #10 |
41. No, it is innate |
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LatteLibertine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 10:50 AM Response to Reply #41 |
49. I'd agree |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 11:09 AM Response to Reply #41 |
51. Then why do infants, toddlers and young children |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 11:20 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Because they have not developed that part of their brain/mind yet |
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LatteLibertine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 12:02 PM Response to Reply #51 |
60. They |
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hobbit709 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 06:10 AM Response to Original message |
11. Fear generates hate |
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peacebird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 06:14 AM Response to Original message |
12. I think it's based in feelings of insecurity and self-doubt |
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AndyA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 06:15 AM Response to Original message |
13. I always thought both were based on ignorance. |
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SmileyRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 06:22 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Me too - although there are educated people who are racists |
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reprehensor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 06:23 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Definitely a major factor. |
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GrannyK (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 10:39 AM Response to Reply #13 |
48. Hate originates from fear |
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ladjf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 06:23 AM Response to Original message |
16. In my opinion, racism is a primitive form of territorial ism based on a desire |
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Locrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 06:31 AM Response to Original message |
17. sex |
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izzie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 06:31 AM Response to Original message |
18. I think that it is the stranger thing. Two people in a group turn on |
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Clovis Sangrail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 06:37 AM Response to Original message |
19. based on? neither |
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Believing Is Art (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 06:52 AM Response to Original message |
20. In most cases, a conscious hatred that turns into fear. |
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lelgt60 (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 06:55 AM Response to Original message |
21. Are there blind racists? |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 06:58 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Yes, they hate the smell of anyone who can see. |
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Kind of Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 07:35 AM Response to Reply #21 |
29. Yes, there is one blind racist I know of....Clinton Bixby |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 06:57 AM Response to Original message |
22. Neither now days. Its trained into children by parents and other adults |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 11:52 AM Response to Reply #22 |
57. I agree with that. It's learned. |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 04:54 PM Response to Reply #22 |
71. Absolutely (n/t) |
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bunkerbuster1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 07:02 AM Response to Original message |
24. Mostly fear, taught by one generation of scumbags to another. |
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eilen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 07:05 AM Response to Original message |
25. Fear of the unknown |
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NC_Nurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 07:09 AM Response to Original message |
27. Fear, mixed with hate and a generous helping of ignorance. |
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Brewman_Jax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 07:54 AM Response to Original message |
31. Probably both |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 07:55 AM Response to Original message |
32. A mix of the two, in my opinion. |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 07:55 AM Response to Original message |
33. both + economics. |
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eowyn_of_rohan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 07:56 AM Response to Original message |
34. All hatred has some form of fear at its root |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 11:59 AM Response to Reply #34 |
59. I'd say, threat not fear. Fear is a response to a threat. |
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eowyn_of_rohan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 02:46 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Yes - but if I feel threatened there is a certain fear behind it |
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marions ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 07:57 AM Response to Original message |
35. People still need racism as a device for bonding |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 07:58 AM Response to Original message |
36. Fear and ignorance - and fear is far more dangerous especially when linked with ignorance. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 08:19 AM Response to Original message |
39. HATE is based on fear. nt |
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Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 08:37 AM Response to Original message |
40. I don't think it is either |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 09:16 AM Response to Original message |
42. It's hate based on fear based on IGNORANCE. |
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blondie58 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
43. I think that it is mostly from fear- out if ignorance. |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 09:50 AM Response to Original message |
44. Ignorance!! |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 10:52 AM Response to Reply #44 |
50. Thats the first word that came to my mind too |
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polmaven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 11:59 AM Response to Reply #50 |
58. Me too... |
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Aragorn (784 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 03:48 PM Response to Reply #44 |
63. ignorance which fails to overcome primitive fear |
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flygal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-16-08 05:21 AM Response to Reply #44 |
78. Yep, I was going to say - or third choice - Ignorance!! |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
46. It's a whole bunch of things: |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
47. I believe fear is first and this feeling of fear engenders a feeling of helplessness |
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NoGOPZone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
53. Hate and fear often closely related nt |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
55. Hate is based on fear. |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
56. fear |
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entanglement (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 03:39 PM Response to Original message |
62. Many people (democrats included) don't 'get' universal anti-racism |
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2speak (382 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
64. Could be love also. As in you don't want your daughter or son |
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ThePowerofWill (462 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
65. Hate and fear go hand in hand. |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 04:05 PM Response to Original message |
67. I think it's based on hatred of one's self |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
69. some are afraid of retribution |
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LatteLibertine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 04:59 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. Ok |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 05:57 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. what do those statistics have to do with white supremacy |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 05:00 PM Response to Original message |
73. Depends on if you believe it is an evolutionary response, at its core, or a social construct. |
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honkydonkey (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 05:28 PM Response to Original message |
74. Fear.... |
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Bubbha Jo (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
76. It's based on insecurity. Those happy to be human aren't racist.... |
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OneBlueSky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-16-08 05:15 AM Response to Original message |
77. hate IS fear . . . in its worst manifestation . . . n/t |
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