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stoge18 Donating Member (328 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 03:37 PM
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Mood compared to 2004
I recall that I was very optimistic in 2004 right up to the moment I heard that Ohio had swung the wrong way. I suspect lots of you all felt the same way. I'd be interested in hearing what others think regarding level of enthusiasm in 04 vs 08. I, for one, can definitely feel more energy this time around. Anybody else?

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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 03:41 PM
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1. I thought it was a done deal
until it wasn't and I knew we'd been robbed by election fraud again.

then kerry quit.

I feel about the same now as I did then 20 days before the "election"
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tomg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 03:42 PM
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2. enthusiasm is so much higher and so much
more optimistic about winning. I don't ever recall being both this enthusiastic and optimistic simultaneously.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 03:45 PM
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3. "Fool me once....."
My trust was broken when Kerry didn't challenge the election crimes.

I expect more of the same.

If I'm wrong, I'll be the first to say so and celebrate.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 03:51 PM
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4. I was sure Kerry was going to carry Ohio up until 1:21 AM when the exit poll numbers flipped.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 03:52 PM
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5. I'm still cautiously optomistic
We haven't seen all of the last minute dirty tricks yet.
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Greg K Donating Member (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 04:07 PM
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6. I was cautiously optimistic, but not convinced it would happen.
In early October, I was sure Kerry was going to lose, but he made a late surge in the polls and almost made it.

I think a lot of people were voting against Bush and not for Kerry. I know I was, Kerry didn't really impress me as a candidate.

I think Obama's got it this time. The race may tighten a bit but I feel very optimistic, and not just caustiously.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 04:08 PM
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7. cautious optimism
however the national mood is quite different this time and that is very important, in '04 most people were sitting fat and happy, not so this time around.
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 04:09 PM
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8. The polling is entirely different than 2004.
Obama currently has a tremendous advantage compared to Kerry at this point.

That's all the more reason for all of us to keep plugging along. Phone banking. Door knocking. And all the rest of the stuff we do well.

Keep pushing. We'll give those Repugs something to remember this year.

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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 04:10 PM
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9. I was excited after the debates because Kerry totally owned Bush.
It wasn't until halfway through election night that I begun to have a sick, sinking feeling in the pit of my stomach.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 04:10 PM
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10. I was very optimistic until Ohio starting looking weird and then I
calmly found my really old bottle of Tequila and took a shot to numb me a bit.

At some point I turned off the TV and didn't turn it back on for 3 days.

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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 04:16 PM
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11. In 2004... I was convinced Bush would win. America wasn't going to vote him out during A) war... or
B) relatively good economy


Kerry was the "Anybody But Bush" candidate... and people were voting as much against Bush as they were FOR Kerry.


This time... the overwhelming majority of Obama supporters are voting FOR him instead of AGAINST McCain. McCain supporters are the opposite.


The candidate that has more people voting FOR him (instead of the "lesser of two evils") almost always wins.
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WhaTHellsgoingonhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 04:46 PM
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12. Nice topic!
Aside from being a "war President", I couldn't make a rational case for W, so I thought the election was a foregone conclusion. I was 38 in '04 and still blind to how irrational the thinking is among Rs. Over my buddy's concerns, I had calculated the route to victory, was jubilant and already in a celebratory mood.

2004 pre-election: :bounce: :party: :toast: :woohoo:
2004 post-election: :O M G! This country has lost it's collective mind!

Post-election, my disillusionment was so great, I lost all faith in this country. The fearful, the religious whack-jobs, the party that excludes millions and the simpletons run this country. Different song, same refrain: Obama should win in a landslide and the Dems should hold more Governors' homes and a filibuster proof Congress. I expect shenanigans. I expect rights to be wronged. I won't celebrate until we hit the trifecta. That would be the only outcome that would shock me.

2008 pre-election: :How stupid are we four years later?:
2008 post-election: TBD
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