Freeper asks for help on "Diebold Machines and the 'Theft of Ohio" in 2004"

[Fuzz]

And they 'help'.
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"Hi all. Please excuse the vanity. But we are having a mock election at school today, run by a liberal history teacher, and when I joked about prnting up extra ballots stamped with the words "APPROVED BY ACORN" he violently assaulted me with "In 2004 the head of Diebold (voting machines) said 'We can win Ohio for Bush'." I dismissed it, saying "well that does not make right what ACORN is doing now. But, he continued on his point. Of course, this is the same fellow, when I passed him in the hallway the morning after the vice-presidential debate and simply quipped "Say it ain't so, Joe," with a twinkle in my eye, who practically tore my head off. Liberals have no sense of humor. We know that. But, I still need information about the Diebold thing in Ohio four years ago. Can anyone help?"

1 posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:18:12 AM by MrChips



Don’t bother. They are convinced, and nothing you can say is gonna change their little mind. They are tinfoil hat wearing, conspiracy theorist kool-aid drinkers.............

2 posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:20:32 AM by Red Badger (My wallet is made out of depleted you-owe-mium........)



just make a little tinfoil hat for him to wear.

3 posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:20:34 AM by ilgipper




I do believe the president of Diebold said something to that effect for the election that year.

However, it was at a campaign fund raiser and he was a personal donor, talking on behalf of supporters.

4 posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:20:42 AM by ConservativeMind (The LA Times, 10/6/08, was told to cut "75 editorial positions." How many are needed for 2 pages?)



Just tell him that it’s true Diebold has all the power and it’s pointless for him to show up at the polls to vote in November.

(Other FReepers will be more helpful, I’m sure)

5 posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:21:15 AM by Hoodlum91 (I support global warming.)



You could make him a tinfoil hat to wear the night of the election. Give it to him in front of the whole class..........

6 posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:22:17 AM by Red Badger (My wallet is made out of depleted you-owe-mium........)



Just keep needleing him. When he snaps and assualts you, break both his arms.

8 posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:22:50 AM by Tijeras_Slim

that does not make right what ACORN is doing now

In his mind it might well do that

9 posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:23:11 AM by valkyry1 (McCain/Palin 2008)

Another liberal teacher Ping?

Get his rant on tape or chip and call up Sean Hannity. He loves this stuff and might even challenge the teacher on it.

10 posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:23:13 AM by WakeUpAndVote (Proud member of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy!)


Call his phone, do your best Dick Chenney voice and ask him to go hunting with you.

12 posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:24:59 AM by WakeUpAndVote (Proud member of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy!)

Just say the teacher touched you inappropriately while in the bathroom. He can't prove you are lying, just like he can't prove his BS about Diebold. Either way, you won't have to deal with him again.

11 posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:24:12 AM by Niteranger68 (Let's cut the socialist media's head off!)



Yes, it was an unfortunate phrasing, i think something like “we will do whatever it takes” which, coming from the guy who’s making the vote-counting machines does have some Orwellian overtones. But he meant it in terms of “let’s write some big checks” not, “let’s corrupt Democracy”

I still don’t like computerize voting, but all vote counting mechanisms have these flaws, and computers probably less so, since you can usually look at the programs if you are concerned. Anyway I think that is the story.

15 posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:25:04 AM by babble-on



Tell him “That’s right! All the Diebold machines have been programmed to count every third vote for a Democrat as a vote for a Republican. Tell him there’s nothing he or any of his muddle-headed friends can do about it.” Then stick out your tongue.

Alas, I fear for your child’s grades!

16 posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:25:13 AM by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)



Just tell them that is the leftists would have shut their pie holes about 2000, we wouldn’t be having this conversation. Method doesn’t seem to matter to leftists. If they don’t win, somebody stold the election.

You can also mention that conservatives aren’t cheaters.

Election tampering has been owned by RATS almost all of the time.

17 posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:25:16 AM by indylindy (Is there any good idea out there that Obama doesn't lay claim to anymore?)

Just say "All your Dibold belong to us. Give up now".

18 posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:25:38 AM by mnehrling


On the serious side, not every county in Ohio uses Diebold machines. Not every ballot in Ohio will look alike. Heck the different districts will ALL BE DIFFERENT! How does a machine know which position is a Republican or a Democrat or Libertarian? The idiots who came up with this stupid theory never answer any true logic based questions. That “teacher” is an even bigger idiot to believe such drivel. I hope he doesn’t teach math...................

19 posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:26:43 AM by Red Badger (My wallet is made out of depleted you-owe-mium........)


you cannot talk a cultist out of a cult.

That said point out the programming is done by a company w ties to hugo chavez.

21 posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:28:57 AM by festus (Politics makes for strange bedfellows)



Demand HE show YOU the evidence, otherwise just dismiss it as a conspiracy theory. Don’t let him toss out a vague conspiracy theories as fact and expect YOU to debunk them. He’s the one with the unproven conspiracy theory - call him on promoting conspiracy rather than teaching facts. Don’t accept HIS premise. I expect he thinks Florida was “stolen” in 2000 too but there’s no evidence to support this myth either. Is he also a “truther”?

23 posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:29:40 AM by rhombus



come back at him with this....

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=295825

5 charged in GOP tire slashings
2 sons of prominent Democrats among those charged in tire slashings

Five Kerry-Edwards campaign staffers, including the sons of two prominent Milwaukee Democrats, were charged Monday with the election day tire slashings of 25 get-out-the-vote vehicles rented by Republicans.

Proof of real election fraud, not some side joke made by the Diebold dude.

Keep it simple, and ask him if he has actual proof of direct involvement by Diebold.

If he goes on past that ask him if he will defend democrats in Cleveland that right now are registering and bussing homeless people to the polls. To make matters worse they are giving the illiterate ones a sheet of paper with Barack O’Bama on it to make sure they can recognize that in the booth.

hope that ammo helps.

25 posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:32:06 AM by mark in iowa

You've already been given the info and the context of the Diebold situation. But ask him, Is he EQUALLY as concerned about the voting machine software now being made in Hugo Chaves' Venezuela?

27 posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:35:30 AM by Sisku Hanne (The day begins and ends in Alaska.)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2105184/posts

[KharmaTrain]

1. Stupid Is As Stupid Does...

Unfortunately I still see some here who ate the same stupid pill.

It's quite simple. ACORN does not operate polling stations...all they do is registration work for the local county. They give ALL their paperwork to the county who is then responsible to verify the registrations...just like those submitted by any canvasser. ACORN even flags what they see as questionable registrations...but they do not authorize any voters or can put dead bodies at the polls without someone noticing.

If Ivan Awfulitch or Jimmy Johns dares to show up at the polls, he better have ID at the ready. Be assured there are repugnican judges at almost every polling station in the country both alert and ready to contest any questionable registration. In fact, there's a concerted caging effort that plays right into this ACORN sliming...demonizing the group so much that those who did register with them may decide to stay home.

Diebold, on the other hand, is at the heart of the voting process. A manipulation of their machines along with a corrupt Secretary of State can do a lot more damage than a bunch of community organizers.

[Fuzz]

5. They just can't seem to grasp that point.

and I lol'd at Ivan Awfulitch :)

[KharmaTrain]

7. They Don't Want To...

They want a strawman, a boogieman to blame rather than their own corrupt and destructive policies and politicians. The demonization is needed in the parallel universe to ease the pain. The irony is a lot of the registration work ACORN did was months ago...in the primaries. We sure didn't hear a thing about them by the right wing and their toadies then.

Cheers...

:hi:

[Kookaburra]

2. Dear Goddess, there ought to be an age limit on that place

No one under 18 allowed.

[snot]

3. I'd point him to

Greg Palast's work (e.g., http://mwcnews.net/content/view/25811/26/ and/or http://www.palmbeachpost.com/politics/content/local_news/epaper/2008/05/18/0519votestealing.html ) and RFK Jr.'s artices in Rolling Stone (e.g., http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/11717105/robert_f_kennedy_jr__wil and/or http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2006/05/31/bobby-kennedy-jrs-ro_n_21968.html ). If he's serious, he needs to follow the links/leads in those sources.

[mrcheerful]

4. Yep like we always suspected most of freeper land is made up of

children. A mock election in school. Says it all there, to bad they rated themselves out, but then with most teens today they haven't the slightest ideal on how the real world works. Elections are not stolen by fake ballots today, thats so 1900's type stealing, today votes are stolen by the voting machine.

[EOTE]

6. His teacher violently assaulted him?

Hmmmm, then I'm guessing it wouldn't be terribly difficult to get the teacher thrown in jail. However, given that this is a freeper talking here, he was probably made to feel like an idiot (and justifiably so) and took it as a violent assault. Freepers are such f'in idiots it's no longer funny. Have they no sense of perspective?