I'm smack dab in the middie of fundie hell

[MichaelHarris]

in a cabin in central Idaho flyfishing. There is an unsecure router where the neighbor lady home schools the towns 5 children. I kid you not, I may not make it out alive. About 500 yards from the entrance to the cabin rental place is a sign about 50 feet tall that proclaims the coming of this Yaheh guy. It says were all doomed or something. It's so freaky that I'm going to stop and take picture of it tomorrow and upload it so you can see it. That is if I can keep the connection. About everywhere you look there are these hand painted signs about the world ending and stuff.

I went down to the river flyfishing today and there were guys with giant rifles shoot cans and stuff. I'm no coward, I just don't think I look good in my blue Obama hat. It looks better under the seat :)

I really do hope to get that picture, it will freak you right out man. Giant Yahweh sign in a yard filled with wrecked hoopties (cars).

I forgot to add, one of the kids being home schooled is leaving this weekend to go to his church camp. I asked him what they did and he said our church has these military rangers who teach them how to survive. I asked him, "Army Rangers?" and he said, "No, our church has it's own army. Man I've got no words.....

Michael Harris, visiting the dangerous places so you don't have to.

[AnnieBW]

1. Is this your idea of a vacation???

Dude... you're braver than I would be!

[MichaelHarris]

3. LOL

It's where the rainbow trout are and I had no idea it was this bad. I know there were some people like that here but not like this. I've seen 15 or 20 mailboxes painted like Confederate flags.

[Fuzz]

25. Mmm, rainbow trout.

Enjoy the trout, fear the people.

[2speak]

2. Run forest run!

[MichaelHarris]

6. they all

got 4-wheelers and shotguns. Think of me as a T-Bone in a den of lions. Things are bleek man.

[Kahuna]

7. ROFL!!

:rofl:

[MichaelHarris]

12. Dig this

According to our research of the Idaho and other state lists there were 5 registered sex offenders living in Pinehurst in early 2007.

LOL, there are only about 50 people living in this town and all of them are fundies.

http://www.city-data.com/so/so-Pinehurst-Idaho.html

[Warpy]

4. Keep the hat off and your head down

and you should make it out all right.

If Armageddon doesn't happen soon, those fools will eventually let the signs be claimed by Ma Nature and wander away.

Fundies are already starting to get funny looks on their faces since prosperity theology is what sucked them into those churches in the first place. It's obvious prosperity is visiting only the preacher who's been sucking up a tenth of whatever they get.

We're all going to live in interesting times. The fundies aren't going to come out of this as they are now, either.

[MichaelHarris]

10. you know what would be cool?

If they see in a few days I was on their router and read the website I went to. I may even visit Obama's site.

[sandnsea]

5. How'd your Alaska trip go?

I missed it if you reported on it.

Just remember to hate on California and you'll be allright!

:hug:

[MichaelHarris]

8. I went from

Vegas to central Idaho, missed the Alaska trip. It's on the agenda as long as I don't lose all my money in the stock market.

[progdonkey]

9. what's a "router"?

Sorry, I'm more of a computer geek, so when I see "router" I think "USB/cable router"--and in the "unsecure" part, and I'm wondering if you're tapping into this lady's internet connection out there in fundagelical boonies of Idaho, and she's been teaching the kids through online courses about the Rapture.

I'm guessing it's like a schoolhouse, but I just found it funny that I read the sentence, thought I understood it, but then had to go back. :P

[MichaelHarris]

11. it's a wireless

access point. Evidently from what they said at breakfast was the three or four families that live on this dirt road all use this one access point. Even the church called Pinehurst Bible Church uses it.

[BeFree]

14. I know what...

...just log on to God.com and you'll be fine. Too bad God hasn't set up a proxy yet, I wonder what he's waiting on?

[MichaelHarris]

16. God.com

got porn?

[BeFree]

19. Yeah

Nekkid trouts.

[MichaelHarris]

20. LOL

I love dem trouts

[conscious evolution]

13. "No, our church has it's own army.

That is one scary statement.
I have this scenario that has been running through my head these days where blackwater gets hired to enforce martial law using 'church armies'.
Someone please come loosen up my tinfoil.

[MichaelHarris]

18. That freaked me out

they have uniforms and everything.

[undergroundpanther]

23. Assemblies of God

has "cell churches" "church" held in peoples homes.They are VERY organized, very crazy and fucking dangerous. I know, I escaped them.
It's NOT tin Foil,not at all.They want to take over the world.I kid you not.They are as cold as psychopaths about it.The church is partly above ground some of it off the radar. It has deep pockets, connections,and loyal blind obedient culties tons of 'em all itching for rewards and goodies from the yahweh monster.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/8/10/14253/9957
http://www.clipmarks.com/clipmark/0AF9A1DA-7348-4F5F-8409-F856E54AB2F4/

JOHN GERBER: I feel it’s my call to be here. As a minister here in Morocco, it is difficult to bring the gospel freely because it is an Islamic country therefore there are some restrictions. It is against the law to convert a Muslim to Christianity.

WILLACY: Australian Pastor John Gerber has been in Morocco for seven years. He’s on a mission from the Assemblies of God Church.

JOHN GERBER: Under the circumstances now, I do the best that I can do which is set up this underground church of believers. It is an undercover operation if we could call it this way, it is underground.

WILLACY: Today he joins a service for foreign Christians but his real mission is to save the souls of those who dare not come here, Morocco’s Christian converts. John Gerber is acutely aware that in Morocco it’s a crime to proselytise – to preach, to convert Muslims to Christianity.

http://www.abc.net.au/foreign/content/2006/s1589161.htm

[hootinholler]

32. Not really mainstream AOG,

They are more splinter groups who've come mostly out of the AOG Pentecostal.

Some great material on talk2action

-Hoot

[Greyhound]

37. Mormons too.

2 years supply for survival and warehouses all over the world with materiel and equipment for the faithful to step in and take over.

It worked well for some of the victims of Katrina, they were on the ground before anybody, but it's still worth keeping an eye on them.

[Matariki]

39. Aparently they have interests in Diebold too

http://www.onlinejournal.com/TheocracyAlert/html/111704mazza.html

scary stuff

[rockymountaindem]

15. Dude, I grew up in Colorado Springs

I love my hometown, but just be glad you're only visiting the fundie universe instead of spending your formative years there.

[MichaelHarris]

17. I had

my best friend go all fundie and he moved to Colorado Springs to some compound.

[Gwendolyn]

21. That old flick "Deliverance" comes to mind.

Get home safe! And if you can't, take a few down with you. Go with God. :)

[MadHound]

22. Welcome to southern Missouri

There are pockets of that strain of militant fundy conservative populations in virtually every state. Some states have larger populations than others, but they are all over.

[AndyTiedye]

24. That Was Supposed to be FlyOVER, Not FlyFISHING

:scared:

[Turn CO Blue]

26. If their army is anything like "Joel's army", then that is some scary s#!t.

[bertman]

27. If I were you I'd give that neighbor lady a big old fat trout

and thank her for being so nice, then head home as soon as you can.

What is it about the wild places that attracts those fundie types? A friend fishes in Alaska every year with a fundie friend and they always manage to go to some out of the way KILLER salmon and grayling fishing spot where the Jesus freaks abide.

. . . and he said, "No, our church has its own army." What was it that Jahayzus said about enemies? Love thine enemy as thyself. How about that other worn out Jesusism of "if a man smiteth thee on the right cheek, turn also the left cheek to him." (It's been a LONG time so I may be butchering some of these verses)

Or how many times should I forgive a man? asked a disciple. And JC replied something along the lines of seven times seven times seven. Now that's a very forgiving Jesus. I guess these folks don't really READ the bible, just listen to spirit-filled preachers.

WhooooWeeeeeee!!

If this doesn't help you understand why our Founding Fathers were so adamant about keeping the State and the Church separate, then I don't know what will.

Good fishing to ya, Michael. Being a lunatic fisherman myself, I can understand how you might get sucked into a plight like this.

P.S. thanks for the warning.

[liberalhistorian]

28. Hell, it's Idaho. What

the hell else would you expect? Although I personally believe the state is beautiful enough to almost make up for it. :evilgrin:

[Ilsa]

29. Maybe the FBI needs to check them out to be sure they don't go

on the offense about bringing about the end of the world.

[nichomachus]

30. A church near us

has a sign that says "Armageddon is coming soon." They've already had to replace the sign twice because it just weathered all to crap. Apparently, Armageddon isn't coming soon enough.

[flygal]

36. LOL all weathered...

:rofl:

[progressoid]

31. Yeah, I remember a couple forays into Idaho in the 80's.

Kinda scary in some places. Sounds like it hasn't become any better.

How's Pullman doing? I lived there for a couple years (86-88). Nice place.

[Froward69]

33. You sure your not in Colorado Springs?

Focus on the family has been on and recruiting at the Air Force Academy for years now...

heirs to hope... My neighborhood Crazies can carpet bomb your crazies... what brand of Fundamentalist Christianity is the chosen one and all that??? It would be the will of god ya know???

[Kablooie]

34. Idaho is home base for survivalists.

They did an analysis of dangerous places to live, looking at populations, natural dangers, floods, fires, etc, and political targets. Idaho was deemed to be the safest place in the country to live.

There is a great documentary on the BBC about it by Louis Theroux.

[flygal]

35. Omg

I visited someone in the middle of S. Dakota and it was exactly the same - but probably much prettier in Idaho. These people were just like that movie Betrayed with Debra Winger. Good luck to you - if you're anywhere near it, head to Missoula for a weekend. Lots of cool people there.

[Matariki]

38. Their CHURCH has it's own ARMY?

Seriously, WTF?

And in the meantime the Pentagon is spying on Quakers :eyes:

[TWiley]

54. It is called Malita

[Vinca]

40. Hope you get out alive.

Might I suggest the Battenkill or Mettowee Rivers in Vermont next time? It's the bluest state in the union.

[The Backlash Cometh]

41. It is the end of times for them.

If Obama wins, it will mean the end of white male Christian dominance.

[Leopolds Ghost]

45. LOL!!!

[aaronbav]

51. We can only hope

and I'm a middle aged "white guy". Definitely NOT a xtian though, and am totally OPPOSED to their CORRUPT vision of the world - moral people my ASS. Most of the Xtian's I know have believed themselves to be "morally superior" but in reality they were just total arrogant jack asses.

[The Backlash Cometh]

52. I agree with you and I am a Christian.

And, yes, my morality level does lend itself to pomposity, at times. It's what centers me, but mostly these days, it's directed at the White male Christians for co-opting and destroying a very good belief system. These days I refer to myself as a Matthews Christian, and one that's in the winter pastures, too busy to find time to come in to attend church on Sundays.

[Odin2005]

42. What is with Idaho and extreme RW crazies? n/t.

[janx]

43. Next time,

please consider New Mexico! ;-)

[earth mom]

44. Can someone explain what Yahweh is? I've seen it on You Tube a few times too. TIA! nt

[Edweird]

46. It's what some people call god.

[14thColony]

49. "Yahweh"

is considered the most probable pronunciation of the Tetragrammaton - the four Hebrew letters that represent the Name of God in the Talmud and all ancient Hebrew religious texts. The Tetragrammaton translates into the letters YHWH in English - Talmudic Hebrew didn't write down vowels, so you had to just know the right pronunciation, which no one today knows. Since it can also be transliterated as JHWH, the Tetragrammaton is also the origin of 'Jehovah,' another attempt to make a pronouncable Name of God from the four Hebrew consonants. Since the Name of God was NEVER spoken aloud in ancient Judaism, for them it didn't matter. In modern Bibles, most of the places it says "the Lord" in English are places the Tetragrammaton was found in the original Hebrew texts.

[sarcasmo]

47. Upper Peninsula of Michigan is a much better environment, Schoolcraft County.

[honkydonkey]

48. You went to Idaho on vacation?

Are you suicidal? I hope you make it. I just went to New York for my vacation away from fundie hell here in Kentucky. It was quite refreshing.... Your next vacation needs to be to a blue state. lol.

[Poseidan]

50. let me explain more about in-breeding

You see, it's on a sliding-scale. If you have either too much in common (homosexual), or too little (with an animal), you will not be able to breed. If you have almost too much or too little, there will be birth defects. Based on my research, there is an optimal breeding range. White with white will not necessarily result in birth defects, but the chances are higher if the two whites (or two whatever's), come from the same small gene-pool (small town).

[TWiley]

53. I feel your pain ..... I hate em.