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susanbanks44 Donating Member (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 09:20 AM
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Judge sentences rap music fan to Bach, Beethoven
URBANA, Ohio (AP) _ A defendant had a hard time facing the music.

Andrew Vactor was facing a $150 fine for playing rap music too loudly on his car stereo in July. But a judge offered to reduce that to $35 if Vactor spent 20 hours listening to classical music by the likes of Bach, Beethoven and Chopin.

Vactor, 24, lasted only about 15 minutes, a probation officer said.

It wasn't the music, Vactor said, he just needed to be at practice with the rest of the Urbana University basketball team.


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http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-odd-symphonic-justice,0,1821775.story
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yojon Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 09:22 AM
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1. Like Clockwork Orange in reverse
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 09:30 AM
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2. I love me some classical music
I think many people would be shocked to see just how much classical music and heavy metal rock have in common.
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VWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 09:37 AM
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6. Yep. Just listen to
The Trans-Siberian Orchestra, for example.
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 09:42 AM
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7. Savatage, Dream Theater, Nightwish, etc
Plenty of examples of neo-classical metal, or progressive metal if you will.
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A Brand New World Donating Member (803 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 09:34 AM
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3. I just read this in my local paper. I live in Urbana. It's a hoot
to see something on here from my home town of 12,000. (Which is twice as big as Wasilla!)
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 09:35 AM
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4. Hey, if I got pulled over for rattling the windows listening to Beethoven
and was offered 20 hours of rap - I'd have paid, too.

People have to understand what it's like to be forced to listen to music they don't like. It's pure noise pollution, and should not be inflicted on others.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 09:37 AM
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5. Because Western European music is superior to that "noise," blah blah blah
Imagine if a judge did the reverse to an woman who kept her neighbors up by playing Mozart too loudly. The screaming here would be deafening...
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superduperfarleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 09:56 AM
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10. Seriously...
Edited on Thu Oct-09-08 09:57 AM by superduperfarleft
Just more "rap isn't music" garbage. I don't know what this old coot of a judge expects to teach the defendant by doing this. I wish I lived next door to her so I could teach her some appreciation of other cultures.

And for the record, I like classical music AND hip-hop.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 10:04 AM
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12. Yes, me too... I understand the purpose, but the judge mucked up the execution
I can put on either and enjoy it.

I can see the point of saying "You're forcing people to listen to music they may not like, and here's how that feels." That's OK. But the choice of classical is really dubious and value-laden. Why not pick some Mongolian peasant string music or something? Wouldn't that do the same, without importing all the prejudices of Western cultural superiority into the mix? The impulse is correct; the execution of it is cringe-inducingly tone deaf.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 09:44 AM
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8. LOL That's Too Funny!
I love creative sentences!
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 09:47 AM
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9. If he listens to 20 hours of classical music, he will probably become a fan.
Edited on Thu Oct-09-08 09:57 AM by DemoTex
I had three college roomies at Auburn back in the mid-1960s who were dyed-in-the-wool C&W fans. They hated everything else. I was heavy into jazz and classical. But I persevered and often played my classical "sides" on the community hi-fi (as it was called back then).

I came back from class one day and heard Dvorak's New World Symphony playing on the hi-fi. Billy Mac from Hueytown Alabama was listening to my classical music! It wasn't long until the other two started putting on classical records too. They are still hooked on classical to this day. Well, not Ronnie. He was killed in Viet Nam (as a 2nd lieutenant).
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 09:59 AM
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11. Bach?, Beethoven?, Chopin? Hell, make him listen to Anton Webern!
That'll learn him!

Ahh, I love the sound of dodecaphony in the morning!
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B3Nut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 10:59 AM
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13. How about Messiaen?
especially his ouevre d'orgue...Apparition de l'eglise eternelle....Le Banquet Celeste...La Nativitie du Signeur...great stuff! He can get inside your head and dismantle it...strangely brilliant composer.

Todd in Cheesecurdistan
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 11:01 AM
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14. I like rap, Beethoven and Bach.....
How's the judge so sure this is going to be a punishment?


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Jeroen Donating Member (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 11:54 AM
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15. Bach's counter-punches are well known n/t
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 12:05 PM
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16. Sentence him to Tony Orlando and Perry Como.
That is even worse to me.
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 02:25 PM
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19. Maybe force him to listen to Pat Boone
Although that might constitute cruel & unusual punishment.
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 12:54 PM
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17. Classical music shouldn't be used as punishment.
That only reinforces negative stereotypes about it.

*sigh*
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 12:55 PM
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18. Some wonderful classical music has been sampled in rap. I love both genres.
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