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dhpgetsit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 08:52 AM
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ACORN Calls Police Raid of Las Vegas Office a Political "Stunt"
ACORN Calls Police Raid of Las Vegas Office a Political "Stunt"

By Steven Rosenfeld, AlterNet. Posted October 7, 2008.


Nevada law enforcement officers raided the Las Vegas office of ACORN, a low-income advocacy group, on Tuesday to gather evidence into "complaints" of intentionally falsifying voter registration forms by the group that just this week announced it had registered more than 1.3 million voters in 16 states during 2008.

The raid was prompted by "complaints" about fabricating voter applications, said Bob Walsh, spokesman for Nevada Secretary of State Ross Miller, a Democrat, whose office is leading the investigation. Walsh declined to say who made the complaints and how many voter registrations were in question. He said computers and other seized records would be examined. No arrests were made.

"When you get information that suggests that it is intentional (falsifying registrations), I don't care if it is one or 10,000 - you have to act," Walsh said.

But officials with Project Vote, which coordinates ACORN's voter drives, called the raid a political "stunt," saying the Las Vegas office had been meeting with Nevada's election officials since February and as late as July to notify them of suspect registration forms and turned over materials that could be used to prosecute possible registration fraud.

ACORN typically hires registration workers from the communities it serves. Because it has had problems in the past with a handful of employees and their voter registrations, it has adopted vigorous quality controls to vet applications. It also has a proactive policy of turning over questionable documents to local law enforcement agencies to prosecute.

"This is a stunt because we have been working with election officials since the beginning of February to identify problem (registration) cards and when they did not take that seriously, we met with them and asked them to please investigate these problem applications," said Michael Slater, Project Vote executive director. "We then gave them a whole set of materials, including information on the (ACORN) employees that we were concerned about and were cooperating fully."

"For them to execute some sort of search warrant and flag or call attention to the media while we did that is nothing more than a stunt since we were already providing information about the problem and in fact flagged the problem for them and asked them to take it seriously," he said.

Earlier this year, ACORN's Las Vegas office had turned over "at least 74 packages of problematic cards; there could be one or more voter applications per package," Slater said. ACORN then met with the Secretary of State's staff in mid-July and then turned over "46 packages, implicating 33 separate canvassers," he said. In 2008, ACORN registered more than 80,000 voters in Clark County, where Las Vegas is located.

"We flagged 200 applications out of those," Slater said. "More than 99 percent of the applications were valid applications. I don't understand the politics of it. I don't understand why they would go out and make a public show of information that we had already been providing them, and do it on the day when we were announcing the successful conclusion of our (2008 voter drive) work. It does seem political."

Nevada Secretary of State Spokesman Walsh confirmed that ACORN had been meeting with his office earlier in the year, and had turned over materials that could be used in possible prosecutions. He defended the raid saying the voter registration problems could have been more extensive than what ACORN reported to the state.

"Just because they turned stuff in doesn't mean we got it all," Walsh said. "There was stuff that we felt wasn't turned in to us - not necessarily for nefarious reasons."

Walsh said there were many other voter registration groups active in Nevada this year, but none had come forward and contacted state officials about potentially problematic registrations. He would not speculate if those groups also might have problems with registration forms, as election officials always have a small percentage of voter applications that contain typos, misspelled and illegible names, and other problems causing those individuals not to be added to voter rolls.

"We can only go by the information we get," Walsh said. "We don't do it randomly We had knowledge of allegations of a crime and we pursued it."


Follow the link and digg the story!
http://www.alternet.org/election08/102055/acorn_calls_police_raid_of_las_vegas_office_a_political_%22stunt%22/
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VeraAgnes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 08:54 AM
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1. This needs to be confronted.
Edited on Thu Oct-09-08 08:56 AM by VeraAgnes
Where is the ACLU? Did they have a valid warrant and who issued this false warrant? Who pushed for the warrant?

Vegas has OJ to keep them happy for a while so...........they need to stop while they are ahead.
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dhpgetsit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 09:39 AM
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5. Bring plenty of ID when you vote!
I imagine people who show up to vote after having registered through ACORN will have eligibility challenged.
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Daemonaquila Donating Member (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 03:04 PM
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12. Wrong organization - it's not an ACLU thing.
ACLU deals with free speech issues, mainly. The organization they need to call on is the National Lawyers Guild. If they yell for help, I'm quite sure they'll get it.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 08:58 AM
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2. Of Course it Was... more Political Totalitarianism by the GOP
they act just like the Communists, Fascists and Nazis who all abused power just like this to attack political foes. I will celebrate the day we finally beat these bastards into pulp.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 10:01 AM
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8. What Are You Talking About? The Guy Is A Democrat.
fascist fascist fascist blah blah blah

So friggin hilarious.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 09:04 AM
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3. I wish that this type of effort was going into a open and
transparent paper ballot voter action, instead of this dribble dribble voter susprision....
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riverdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 09:21 AM
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4. And yet, we can't get voter caging to be taken seriously.
Someone in the right sniffs the air for wrongdoing, and the establishment, their establishment, is breaking down doors and taking names.
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Pab Sungenis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 09:50 AM
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6. Voter caging is not illegal.
It SHOULD be, but it isn't.
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riverdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 10:50 AM
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9. It is the way Republicans do it.
Commonly, the process begins with a formal written challenge filed with local election boards by a certain date before the election. The challenger must have personal knowledge that the challenged voter is ineligible to vote in some jurisdictions, but that is unfortunately not the norm. Many more states permit challenges merely on the basis of the challenger’s “reasonable belief” that the voter is ineligible.

Another flaw inherent in partisan voter caging operations is the well-documented inaccuracy of mailing operations. Mail may be returned for many reasons, including errors in the database from which the mailing is derived, errors in the mailing labels, failure to include an apartment number or poor matching criteria. In some cases a voter may have rejected the mailing or been out of town. A single returned piece of mail is not a reliable basis for challenging the right to vote. King County, Washington is an example. Republican party officials sent out a mass mailing and challenged about 1,943 voters whose mail was returned. The database company they hired to match the voter registration rolls to addresses of businesses, however, neglected to include the name of the city in the match criteria. The result was that a significant number of the letters were sent to the wrong addresses.


http://projectvote.org/index.php?id=355
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 10:00 AM
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7. I'm Glad The Raid Happened! It Means Fraud Is Taken Seriously!
Now whether or not there turns out to be evidence of additional wrongdoing will remain to be seen as the investigation unfolds. Hopefully there isn't. But shouldn't we WANT complaints to be investigated to thwart fraud? Isn't that a good thing?

Like I said; I hope they find nothing. But I'm glad they're on top of things like this and that the state takes it seriously.

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AmyCamus Donating Member (371 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:19 PM
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10. It's sad to read here that voter fraud is OK if its for our side.
Its never OK.
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NobleCynic Donating Member (991 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:42 PM
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11. I work next door to their former office in Reno
When this went down in Vegas, they packed up their Reno office and left without paying their workers. Almost 30 people have come by my office looking to get paid wondering if I knew where they went.

ACORN is an embarrassment to all progressive causes.

Mind you, their workers weren't falsifying registrations because it's an evil diabolical plot. They were doing it because ACORN set unrealistic daily quotas for reg cards and had no screening process for hiring its election workers.
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