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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 12:08 AM
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The Myth of the Bradley Effect or John McCain's Only Chance Now Is Election Fraud On a Massive Scale
As the gap between Obama and McCain widens, far right wingers do not find solace in their guns and Bible any more. Now, they cling to something that has been called The Bradley Effect . Conservative pundits claim that it will cure a ten point spread. What is this miracle Republican election fixer?

I. The Bradley Effect Was Never More Than a Theory

“The very end of myths is to immobilize the world” Roland Barthes Mythologies


The Bradley Effect was a theory proposed to explain the discrepancy between pre-election polls and exit polls, which showed African-American LA mayor Tom Bradley the winner of the 1982 California governor’s race. The actual post election vote tabulation showed his Republican challenger the winner by 100,000 votes. According to the theory, voters told pollsters that they planned to vote for Bradley, because they wanted to appear hip or open minded, but when they got into the voting booth, their natural American racism took over, and they voted for the white guy instead.

http://www.sacbee.com/812/story/1141286.html

In fact, the Republican, George Deukmejian lost on election night, just as the exit polls predicted. It was the absentee voting that put him over the top. An unprecedented number of Republican absentee ballots were cast in that election. The press and Republicans have claimed since then that the presence of a gun initiative on the ballot was responsible for increased Republican turn out. However, whenever there is an unexpected result that favors one party involving one type of voting, someone is going to ask Was there fraud involved? Absentee voting is one of the easiest types of voting to manipulate. And yet, the press never went there. Instead, they preferred to proclaim that Americans, by nature, were liars, racists and hypocrites.

I do not know who first came up with the idea of the Bradley Effect Theory but it is clear that George Deukmejian’s campaign helped propel the myth.

http://people.iq.harvard.edu/~dhopkins/wilder13.pdf

(Page three) “In the words of the campaign manager for Bradley’s opponent ‘if people are going to vote that way, they certainly are not going to announce it for a survey taker.’”


Why not? Was his candidate named Hitler? Was he running on the Neo-Nazi Party? The Republican Party was perfectly respectable, especially in California during the Reagan era. Most people did not feel the need to apologize for voting GOP. Seems to me like that campaign manager might have been trying to use race as a distraction from other issues---like all those Republican absentee ballots.

A study done several months after Bradley’s loss in 1982 found that only a tiny fraction of the polling/ballot discrepancy was attributable to race.

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/obama-run-bradley-effect-polls/story.aspx?guid={79FA00F7-52E8-4054-81F2-E6C14FE7D9F1}&dist=msr_1

And as it turned out, race played only a small portion in Bradley's defeat, if any, DiCamillo said. Field did a white paper dissecting what happened three months after the fact, and discovered that if voters had concealed their true intentions, it might have only affected 1 or 2% of the vote at the most.


If pollsters knew within a couple of days that an unusually high number of Republicans had cast absentee ballots and that was what cost Bradley the election, and if they knew within three months that race had only a minimal (if any) effect upon the contest why are conservatives swearing up and down that Barack Obama’s current polls mean nothing and that McCain’s final vote tallies will be much higher due to the Bradley Effect ?

II. The Wilder Effect

Douglas Wilder was elected Virginia’s governor by a razor thin margin in 1989, after pre-election polls showed him with a wider lead. There was a recount which confirmed his victory. Because he was African-American, the Bradley Effect was cited as the sole cause for the closeness of the race--- even though the Theory had not been proved .

How did the Bradley Effect become dogma? If you have not read Myth Today the final chapter of Mythologies by Roland Barthes, here is a link and an excerpt.

http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/~marton/myth.html

Myth does not deny things, on the contrary, its function is to talk about them; simply, it purifies them, it makes them innocent, it gives them a natural and eternal justification, it gives them a clarity which is not that of an explanation but that of a statement of fact. If I state the fact of French imperiality without explaining it, I am very near to finding that it is natural and goes without saying: I am reassured. In passing from history to nature, myth acts economically: it abolishes the complexity of human acts, it gives them the simplicity of essences, it does away with all dialectics, with any going back beyond what is immediately visible, it organizes a world which is without contradictions because it is without depth, a world wide open and wallowing in the evident, it establishes a blissful clarity: things appear to mean something by themselves.


The Bradley Effect Theory creates the illusion of truth because it is constructed of tiny little truisms. Of course, some American whites are racist against Blacks. Of course, some racists are embarrassed by this fact. Of course, some people want to hide their flawed nature from strangers (pollsters).

The logical leap comes when we put these three truisms together and say that this explains why Wilder’s win in 1989 was so close when pre-election polls showed him with a comfortable lead.

“Myth transforms history into nature” Barthe


An historical analysis of the Wilder gubernatorial election would focus upon many issues, not just race and the honesty of people responding to pollsters. When media pundits and election specialists seize upon something like the Bradley Effect they are attempting to shut down true historical (or political) analysis. They say, in effect, The election turned out that way because it had to turn out that way. If a Black man runs against a white in America, he will always lose votes. Why? Because people will change their mind and vote for the white man. That is only natural. Issues such as election fraud and voter suppression are dismissed as irrelevant. Issues peculiar to that one election, like the economy, are ignored.

Once a “universal” law has been cited to explain everything, we are not supposed to question it. We are meant to be relieved that the natural world makes such good sense. Anyone who continues to ask questions is nothing but a crackpot conspiracy theorist, a tinfoil hat lunatic, a hopeless partisan. If an apple falls and lands on the top of your head, you assume that gravity made it fall from a tree. You do not throw in a complication and ask who threw it, right?

However, what if there is no apple tree in the vicinity?

And what if scientific analysis does not confirm the existence of a Bradley Effect? Can you still cite it the next time a Black man challenges a white man in an election?

III. Analysis of the Bradley/Wilder Effect Shows That It Stopped Having Any Effect on American Politics in 1996

http://people.iq.harvard.edu/~dhopkins/wilder13.pdf

The scholarly paper above, titled No More Wilder Effect, Never a Whitman Effect: When and Why Polls Mislead About Black and Female Candidates by Daniel J. Hopkins analyzes races before and after 1996 and reaches some interesting conclusions. The author finds that while there was a small (2.3% ) gap between polling and performance for Black candidates in the early nineties, candidates such as Wilder, the Governor of Virginia, saw a separate decrease in their performance because of their high name recognition. Basically, people do not care what they tell a pollster, so they are more likely to pick the most familiar name. However, when they go to vote, they spend more time making their decision, and at that point familiarity becomes less important than other qualities. So, the front runner gets increased poll numbers before the election, but the candidate with lower name recognition may gain a few points on election day as people take a good look at him for the first time.

The 2.3% gap between polling and performance for Black candidates which was detectable in the early 1990s disappeared abruptly after 1996. The author speculates that this occurred because of a change in the political climate in the United States. Recall that under Reagan and George Bush Sr. the focus on “crime” and “drugs” and “welfare” was often (deliberately) racially charged. He also points out that in the Democratic primaries this year, Clinton’s polls often outperformed her vote numbers, consistent with a front runner effect.


IV. Do Obama’s Current Poll Numbers Under Predict His Eventual Vote Totals?
Here is another link with more info about the primary contests between Clinton and Obama that compares their pre-priamry polling and their votes.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/08/persistent-myth-of-bradley-effect.html

The Persistent Myth of the Bradley Effect

Many commentators -- the preponderance of them conservative but also some liberals -- take it as an article of faith that the current polling numbers overstate Barack Obama's position because of the so-called Bradley Effect: the notion that some material number of voters will lie about their intentions to pollsters, claiming that they will vote for a black candidate when in fact they will vote for the white guy.


The authors of this article compare the polling/performance data for Clinton and Obama and discover, like the author of the previous paper, that Obama outperformed rather than underperformed (as one would expect if the Bradley effect was operative) in all parts of the country except the Northeast. These numbers are consistent with the front runner effect----Clinton was well known, and therefore people polled selected her name as the one with which they were most familiar when questioned by pollsters. Based upon these results, the current polls would seem to under predict Obama’s final performance, since, to many Americans he is still largely unknown, while McCain is very well known due to his long career in public office.

V. So If Statistics Say There Has Been No Bradley Effect For Over 10 Years, And At Its Worst It Was Only 2%, Why Do Conservatives Want to Pretend That There Is a Bradley Effect Which Could Cost Obama a 5-10% Lead On Election Day?

Do I even need to ask? Obama now leads in many of the polls beyond the margin of error. The Republicans do not dare steal votes beyond the margin of error, unless they have something to tell the mainstream media pundits to explain why the pre-election polls and exit polls say Obama 55%, McCain 40% and the vote tally says McCain 50%, Obama 49.5%. That something is going to be The Bradley Effect .

So, we get William Saffire

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/28/magazine/28wwln-safire-t.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

quoting Eugene Robinson saying “But after Tuesday’s big surprise, embarrassed pollsters and pundits had better be vigilant for signs that the Bradley effect, unseen in recent years, has crept back.”

What Saffire does not tell us----the same Washington Post reported a few days later that Clinton won New Hampshire because the pollsters did not anticipate the swarm of feminists who flocked to her to protect their reproductive rights. It was pollster error, not lying voters that caused the problems in that state.

Saffire pretends to be a voice of reason with this line:

“Will There Be an ‘Obama Effect’?” ….Her answer to the question in her headline is one all objective observers can subscribe to: “It is hard to know.”


Everyone wants to be objective . That is why the oil and gas industry gets away with denying global warming. They pay scientists to write phony papers about how global warming is a natural event, and then the members of the press can hold up the entire body of respectable scientific literaure in one hand and in the other they can hold up a wretched piece of dog crap bought and paid for by industry which says what industry wants it to say, and the members of the press can say (with a straight face) “Hmmm. It is a matter of scientific debate. It is hard to know which side to believe. I guess we will have to wait for more information to become available before we decide. “

On Conservative sites, they are much more obvious:

http://liberalslie.blogtownhall.com/2008/10/07/could_there_be_a_bradley_effect.thtml

I only write this today because yesterday on Special Report on Fox News, Brit Hume brought this up to Juan Williams, an African-American. Juan Williams said it is very possible that the Bradley effect could occur in this election, but would not matter due to Obama's lead in the polls. He predicted that it would only be worth 5% of a difference. But, that 5% could be big in this election, especially considering that Obama does not have a surmountable lead in the polls. Two new polls I posted today by CBS and Zogby, show that the race is actually getting tighter, so it makes me wonder how much if any will the Bradley effect play in the 2008 presidential election.


http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/17/sebelius-revives-fears-of-bradley-effect-with-race-comment/

Civil rights author Juan Williams said Obama cannot go into the November election tied with McCain in the polls if he expects to win the presidency.
"Obama's got to have a buffer of 5 to 8 percentage points," Williams said. "So if you have a race in which McCain is at, you know, 41, and Obama's at 41, then imagine that really what you're looking at is McCain at 49, Obama at 41."


http://mvred.com/?p=433

I am of the belief that there is a Bradley Effect, and it will be one of the reasons that Barack Obama loses on November 4th. For those of you who do not know what the Bradley Effect is, here is a simple definition of what many interpret it as: When white voters give inaccurate polling responses for fear that, by stating their true preference, they will appear to the pollster to be racially prejudiced.
A brand new AP/Yahoo.com Poll out says that the race issue could cost Barack Obama up to 6% points this fall. That means come election day, if the polls are within 5 points, it will still be a true toss up.



VI. Statisticians Get Your Calculators Ready...

We can debunk the Bradley Effect which some precincts and states are going to try to cite to explain their anomalous vote totals. All we have to do is compare the change in their votes with the change in the votes in other precincts and states with similar demographics but different (i.e verifiable) voting technology.

Remember Warren Mitofsky's truly off the wall Reluctant Responders Theory, in which he tried to explain the exit poll-vote discrepancy in Ohio by claiming that Republicans were predisposed to either avoid or lie to exit pollsters and that was why exit polls showed Kerry winning but the vote total went to Bush? It turned out that his theory only held true for precincts that did not use hand counted paper ballots. Hand counted paper ballots are the riskiest kind with which to commit election tabulation fraud, because the fraud is so easy to detect. So, if you are going to steal votes, you will do it with your e-voting precincts.

Once the locations with the suspicious totals are located, then it is just a matter of doing the recounts and audits and figuring out how the fraud was committed. I think that by election day Obama will be so far ahead that it will not matter what the Republican fraudsters do, but they will try to do it anyway. They can not help themselves. Stealing the vote has gotten to be a habit for them, and this year they feel especially emboldened.

I am looking forward to seeing some Republicans get prosecuted by the federal government for election fraud this time. I hope that it is one of the first priorities of the new Obama/Biden Department of Justice. The old Voting Rights Division has been gagged for too long. It is time that people learned to believe that when they go to the polls to vote their vote will really count.



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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 12:13 AM
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1. You mean the GOP's only chance now is election fraud on a massive scale ...
... again.


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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 12:33 AM
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2. K & R
Edited on Thu Oct-09-08 12:36 AM by dweller
having read thru this twice, McCamy you deserve some airtime, seriously. This is not the first time, but after many posts of yours, that i've come to realize again your voice is one of reasoned analysis, and contains steps toward proactive,productful action.

:thumbsup:

dp
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 12:42 AM
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3. I won't even give this tripe a moment's thought.
Because thoughts have a way of becoming things.

I think this entire (fabricated) "race" issue needs to be ignored entirely.

Obama will win.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:08 AM
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4. i beg you to reconsider
and read again the post. The OP is giving forth a valid point we should all be aware of that possibly will come into play. Do not underestimate the possibility. Be prepared to prove it wrong with facts.


or ignore at your own peril and wishful thinking, but it is not tripe.
dp

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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:22 AM
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7. I think it's fabricated by those who wish to steal the election, and
use this as an excuse.

It's invalid. The bigots of this world are already strongly in McCain's camp. Game over.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:28 AM
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8. oh, so you mean you think the Bradley Effect is bogus, and
not the OP's point, so we can agree. Sorry if i misunderstood.

glad you are aware of the ploy. Now be prepared for it to come upon us nevertheless.
dp
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:29 AM
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9. No, I appreciate the original poster. But I think the "Bradley
Effect" is baloney.

Actually, I'm sure it is. Bigots don't PRETEND that they're going to vote for a black person. Give me a break.
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Barrymores Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 10:00 AM
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18. Maybe you're missing the point ...
...that, regardless of the real merits of the Bradley Effect theory, the Repugs, led by Karl Rove and his henchmen at the Secretaries of State Offices around the country, are going to execute election fraud on a massive scale and point to the Bradley Effect as some sort of rationale for the stealing of another election.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:20 AM
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5. Welcome to the Hotel California
Corrupt elections since Ronnie ran the show, at least. Way corrupt. Good post. :thumbsup:
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jrockford Donating Member (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:22 AM
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6. A good read, thanks! nt
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Marsala Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:33 AM
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10. More like, It's the Media's Only Chance for a True Horserace
This way Obama can be up by 5% or more straight to the election and the media can go, "Bradley Effect! We don't know if that lead is real! Ooooh, exciting!"
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:33 AM
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11. I don't discount the issue of race though
Palin and McCain are doing their best to activate this above and below the radar.

I think ultimately this effect will wash out with all the new voters. However, that will probably leave the popular vote much closer than it should be...
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boot@9 Donating Member (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 11:34 AM
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24. I agree...
maybe it is my age. I know several Democrats my age have relunctly said they would vote for Obama but I wonder what they will actually do on election day.
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dakdirty Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:34 AM
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12. Great piece.
Thanks for a very reasoned discourse on this subject. The element of fraud, I think, looms large here. I live in Broward County, FL, so, I'm automatically suspicious of this anyway. I'm looking at it very closely this time. According to the Broward County Supervisor of Elections, there are 992,050 registered voters in the county, 522,036 (D), 242,242 (R) and 227,772 classified as other. I think we should be good here this time, as long as people get to the polls. Early voting starts here on 10/20/08, so get out there and make sure your vote counts.
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No Passaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:38 AM
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13. Bradley Effect was a myth

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Barrymores Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 10:12 AM
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19. That's not the issue so much it is that...
...regardless of the real merits of the Bradley Effect theory, the Repugs, led by Karl Rove and his henchmen at the Secretaries of State Offices around the country, are going to execute election fraud on a massive scale and point to the Bradley Effect as some sort of rationale for the stealing of another election.
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emlev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:44 AM
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14. Thank you. And What The Heck To Do About It
This is the best website I know for people to get connected and take action for integrity of the election. It's connected with the film, STEALING AMERICA: Vote By Vote.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 06:03 AM
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15. Race might be a factor
But it's not like it used to be. Younger voters, new voters, women and minorities are Obama's key demographics. Race isn't an issue with them. Not like it is say with say an older white male demographic and they tend to vote GOP anyway. It might cost Obama a few points, but that is a big MIGHT and even then, it's effect would be negligible.
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Pooka Fey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 07:10 AM
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16. Big Fat K&R. A really important read. Thanks for posting.
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torbird Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 08:20 AM
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17. Great Post
I only first heard of the so-called BE this year, but from the get-go, it seemed clear that if it only appeared under specific circumstances, in one or two races, then it doesn't exist. Other, context-specific factors must be at play, and as the OP proves, that is just what happened.

Obama's race is not a factor among Democrats. I don't care about whether it is important to Republicans. We'll fix them later.
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Phred42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 10:14 AM
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20. There other option is to complete the Coup.
:shrug:
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 10:17 AM
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21. You are one of the best assets here. n/t
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Hatchling Donating Member (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 10:24 AM
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22. I heard a panel discuss this the other day and mention the ANTI- Bradley Effect.
Wish I could remember which pundit and which station. But the idea goes like this: Many people secretly plan to and will vote for Obama but are ashamed and afraid to let their racist/GOP friends know. So McCain's polls may not be accurate.

I've seen a few people change, especially two people I know who are admittedly racist. One fights it, knows it is his upbringing and will vote for Obama. The other (proudly racist) has gone from McCain, to Barr, to I'm not voting at all. But I bet once he's in that booth his good sense will take over. I think he's a member of the ANTI-Bradley Effect


NOTE: Why do I hang around these "racists? One of them is actively using me to overcome his feelings. I am the only one he has confided them to. The other one is gradually being ground down by my posistion. Behavoir has changed, some thought patterns have changed. He now admits his feelings are not rational, they just are. So I could just avoid these people or I can continually try to educate them. I chose the more difficult road of educating them.
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 10:42 AM
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23. You have written one of the very best posts I've ever read on DU and among the best of the internet.
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mojowork_n Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:13 PM
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25. K&R. The more that the AM radio squawkers talk about
the "vote fraud" canard, and the more loudly (and obnoxiously) they complain about those "bottom of the barrel" people at A.C.O.R.N. -- you have to know, that with the other hand (the one behind their backs), some of them are hacking into voting registration databases, to take people off of the list.

In case anybody missed this one from the 'Greatest' list:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7377182

Although much attention this year has been focused on the millions of new voters being added to the rolls by the candidacy of Senator Barack Obama, there has been far less notice given to the number of voters being dropped from those same rolls.

States have been trying to follow the Help America Vote Act of 2002 and remove the names of voters who should no longer be listed; but for every voter added to the rolls in the past two months in some states, election officials have removed two, a review of the records shows.

-snip-

In addition to the six swing states, three more states appear to be violating federal law. Alabama and Georgia seem to be improperly using Social Security information to screen registration applications from new voters. And Louisiana appears to have removed thousands of voters after the federal deadline for taking such action.

-snip-

In three states — Colorado, Louisiana and Michigan — the number of people purged from the election rolls since Aug. 1 far exceeds the number who may have died or relocated during that period.

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Willo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:20 PM
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26. What a timely piece K&R!
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D-Lee Donating Member (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 04:29 PM
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27. Terrific post -- here are anti-voter-fraud steps to take
Edited on Thu Oct-09-08 04:30 PM by D-Lee
I'm in total agreement that the "Bradley effect" talking point could well be the "cover" for voter fraud

Do two things -- and tell everyone you know to take these steps:

1. Check voter registration status at www.CanIVote.org.
With the purging of voter registration rolls, checking voting status ahead of time is a wise step.

2. Look into early voting -- http://www.vote411.org/bytopic.php?topicID=13 has the links for each state. Voting at your local Board of Elections makes it more likely that your vote will be counted IMHO.

AND, if you wish to express your views on US election news coverage, including information that the "Bradley effect" is a myth, the list of telephone and email contacts for various reporters and news outlets is here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7334714
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 04:41 PM
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28. In John McCain's mind and in the minds of millions of republicans Election Fraud On a Massive Scale
...is still a workable and viable option.

How do we stop it from becoming that?
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 05:12 PM
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29. Dems can turn out to vote in RECORD NUMBERS! That is the easiest option.
Edited on Thu Oct-09-08 05:12 PM by McCamy Taylor
TV images of long lines of Democratic voters at Democratic precincts all across the country waiting to cast their ballots for Obama/Biden on election day will make it very difficult for the McCain campaign to claim that the public failed to turn out for the Democratic candidate.
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notaboutus Donating Member (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 08:16 PM
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30. Michelle Obama said it best
Obama would not be the Democratic Presidential nominee if the Bradley effect were true. They also NEVER talk about the fact that only 29% of the country now identify themselves as republican. Which makes your post not only excellent but factual which I admire.
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