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Sebass1271 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 09:10 AM
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OBAMA MUST ADDRESS
the accusation from Mccain that he will implement government mandate health care program. I know this is not Obama's plan, however, i am hearing from a lot of people since last night's debate that they are very concerned about this. Obama must and should debunk this lie IMMEDIATELY!!
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 09:11 AM
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1. He did. Last night.
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Sebass1271 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 09:13 AM
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4. No, he didn't.
He should have been more forceful about it and debunk it every time McCain brought it up. I was listening to c-span callers this morning and they were very concerned and these ppl were originally in support of Senator Obama. I guess Mccain attacking him consistently about his lies and health care is resonating. Obama must attack Mcain back on this. HE MUST!!..
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 09:12 AM
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2. He did, and he corrected McCain last night..
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 09:12 AM
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3. Well, if you took a snapshot of America, the overwhelming majority
want a universal healthcare plan.. AND if we get enough votes in the house, senate, and white house, the likelyhood of Obama's plan actually reaching his desk is nill... Most likely they will go with the House bill that's sitting around waiting for more Democrats that actually fosters wellness, not insurance.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 09:15 AM
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5. My take is those folks you speak of are going to vote for mcSame anyway
they're just looking for an excuse for themselves as to why. fuck'em
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Sebass1271 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 09:15 AM
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7. I guess you are right
but we can call them out and say to them "you are lying" and here is why...
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 09:15 AM
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6. Did ANYONE you're hearing from watch the debate? If they did,
Edited on Wed Oct-08-08 09:20 AM by babylonsister
they sure weren't listening.

http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?parm1=5&docID=news-000002972468


OBAMA: Well, I think it should be a right for every American. In a country as wealthy as ours, for us to have people who are going bankrupt because they can’t pay their medical bills -- for my mother to die of cancer at the age of 53 and have to spend the last months of her life in the hospital room arguing with insurance companies because they’re saying that this may be a pre-existing condition and they don’t have to pay her treatment, there’s something fundamentally wrong about that.

So let me -- let me just talk about this fundamental difference. And, Tom, I know that we’re under time constraints, but Senator McCain through a lot of stuff out there.

Number one, let me just repeat, if you’ve got a health care plan that you like, you can keep it. All I’m going to do is help you to lower the premiums on it. You’ll still have choice of doctor. There’s no mandate involved.

Small businesses are not going to have a mandate.
What we’re going to give you is a 50 percent tax credit to help provide health care for those that you need.

Now, it’s true that I say that you are going to have to make sure that your child has health care, because children are relatively cheap to insure and we don’t want them going to the emergency room for treatable illnesses like asthma.

And when Senator McCain says that he wants to provide children health care, what he doesn’t mention is he voted against the expansion of the Children’s Health Insurance Program that is responsible for making sure that so many children who didn’t have previously health insurance have it now.

Now, the final point I’ll make on this whole issue of government intrusion and mandates -- it is absolutely true that I think it is important for government to crack down on insurance companies that are cheating their customers, that don’t give you the fine print, so you end up thinking that you’re paying for something and, when you finally get sick and you need it, you’re not getting it.

And the reason that it’s a problem to go shopping state by state, you know what insurance companies will do? They will find a state -- maybe Arizona, maybe another state -- where there are no requirements for you to get cancer screenings, where there are no requirements for you to have to get pre-existing conditions, and they will all set up shop there.

That’s how in banking it works. Everybody goes to Delaware, because they’ve got very -- pretty loose laws when it comes to things like credit cards.

And in that situation, what happens is, is that the protections you have, the consumer protections that you need, you’re not going to have available to you.

That is a fundamental difference that I have with Senator McCain. He believes in deregulation in every circumstance. That’s what we’ve been going through for the last eight years. It hasn’t worked, and we need fundamental change.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 09:19 AM
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8. OH MY GOD!
THE SKY IS FALLING!

Some idiots listen to accusations and ignore the response! What to do, what to do!

Let's all run out in the street in a panic! THAT will show them! They'll realize that Obama is an idiot, McCain is the dear leader, and Obama will cry like a little girl when someone lies about him! THAT will bring them back into the fold!

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Sebass1271 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 09:23 AM
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9. I don't think the sky is falling
but something as important as this issue must be addressed by him.. on my end, Am going to continue e-mail those ppl that will accuse him of such, the Good thing is i have the facts on me, not rhetoric.. However, will the media report the truth or will just be com placement and let McCain run with this lie? I don't think the media will do its job reason why Obama must and should do it.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 09:31 AM
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10. Go tell him
Why the fuck are you shouting and carrying on about it to us?
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ehrnst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 09:32 AM
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11. Here's an opportunity today to get the evidence that you need:
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