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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 03:19 PM
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Final numbers
US
EUROPE
ASIA
Dow 9,955.50 -369.88 -3.58%

Nasdaq 1,862.96 -84.43 -4.34%

S&P 500 1,056.85 -42.38 -3.86%

10 Yr Bond(%) 3.4260% -0.2180

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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 03:21 PM
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1. What a pump job
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 03:43 PM
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8. I'm sure they would have liked to..
keep it above that 10K psychological barrier.
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 03:22 PM
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2. That was an amazing bounce in the last 2 hours
I guess too many people were getting agitated.
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4 t 4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 03:25 PM
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3. It was profit taking
by short day traders. The jury is still out.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 03:26 PM
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4. I thought shorting was still verbotten. n/t
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 04:21 PM
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26. No. It was based on the G-8 rumors...
It went around that there would be a simultaneous Euro-US-Japan move on interest rates tonight, and that made it all shoot up on a broad front the final hour. If this actually happens, there will be a bounce and then they'll be back to selling off by Tuesday close, Wednesday latest.

Interesting aspect of the "buyer's strike" - very low volume for these moves.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 03:29 PM
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5. Phew! Only -369 That's a relief. The bailout must be working.
:crazy:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 03:41 PM
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6. And you throw beans into the ground and if they are magic beans
they grow and grow and grow and grow into the sky.


:nuke:

(Mods we need a smiley for magical thinking... and the tinfoil hat quite does not do it)


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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 03:45 PM
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9. And, for Bush and the Congress' next magic trip..at the small cost of...
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 03:46 PM
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11. When they get the WPA out, (version two) I can count on YOU posting
this crap too.

Like oh... 1929

The more things change, the more they stay the same
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 03:51 PM
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15. Well, I won't charge you for it like the bankers and politicians do.
Will you still be apologizing for them when they roll out the next "bailout" to cover their sorry asses?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 03:53 PM
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16. Ah nice, you don't who what the work programs administration is
GOOD.


And I expect you to FIGHT THAT ONE TOO
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 03:57 PM
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19. My father was in the CCC.
Do you see this bailout as anything similar to what the WPA, CCC, etc did in the '30s? You expect to see the politicians and bankers building roads and dams?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 03:59 PM
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21. No... but if you BOTHERED readying the bill, which you didn't
you' d KNOW it has ELEMENTS of that legislation like the expansion of HOPE

YOU'D ALSO KNOW THAT THE CCC AND WPA DID NOT COME OUT OF FDR'S HEAD ATHENA LIKE

Now how many congresses did it take for the six major pieces of legislation to take form?

And I DO expect you to be critical of the rest of them too... even the WPA
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 04:06 PM
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22. Hope? Hope of what?
Seriously? What is it you're hoping for? My father hoped for a revolution when he was in the CCC. What he got was a watered down socialist program and a return to power of the tycoons.

The worldwide economy is in freefall and the politicians, to cover their asses, apply a very expensive band-aid to a gaping wound while still giving the Pentagon 600+ billion of our dollars. And, then load up the same bill with pork.

P.T. Barnum would be pleased with your loyalty to the bosses.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 04:11 PM
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23. You really don't know what the hope prgram is? You're kidding me
http://www.allvoices.com/news/1000018-enactment-nears

http://www.hud.gov/offices/pih/programs/ph/hope6/grants/mainstreet/

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/12/20071206-7.html

Not an ideal program.. not as extensive as it should be... but I distinctly remember people fighting this

Can you say initial scaffolding?

No you can't

You even didn't know what this was...

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Geek_Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 04:49 PM
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28. I heard on NPR that the application to get some bail out dollars is due Wed
and the form is like a letter. WTF?
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 03:55 PM
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18. And Jack will climb the beanstalk and . . .
Edited on Mon Oct-06-08 03:56 PM by Jack Rabbit
. . . in the clouds at the top is Wall Street, where Jack finds and takes back the singing harp, golden egg-laying goose and the 401K that the Wall Street giants stole from his father.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 04:17 PM
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24. Problem is that it is others engaging in magical thinking
not I

Have a good day
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 03:42 PM
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7. The bail-out is only now beginning to be implemented.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 03:45 PM
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10. That's ominous.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 03:48 PM
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13. Exactly how?
I'll wait here all week, perhaps all year
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 03:53 PM
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17. Considering how well it's working so far.
Do you really think that the guys who engineered the fiasco are suddenly gonna get religion and "save us" by having us pay for their crimes?

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 03:57 PM
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20. Considering that economic plans don't work overnight
....

MODS we really need a magical thinking smiley
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 04:18 PM
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25. What about the $800 billion that has been pumped into the market already?
doesn't seem like that did much good.

and now the various banks don't seem all that happy about taking the bailout money. Why? because it comes with oversight and regulations.

This won't go well at all.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 04:44 PM
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27. what about 2T, that is the actual amount from the last year or so
it has been done willy nilly, the way Mellon did back in the day when he was the SOT for Hoover

This is somewhat targeted... and like those very EARLY bills, the regs are making some of these same companies go, thanks but no thanks

It is eerie how history is repeating itself. As another DU'er told me... it fills as if I stepped into a time tunnel
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 03:46 PM
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12. And we know exactly where the WMDs are...
points, North, South, East...
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 03:48 PM
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14. Interesting, that may actually give the feds more flexibility
I just hope that they don't decide to willy nilly to this, (aspect) and target it
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