Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

'We're not going to win,' British commander says of bid to quash Taliban

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
susanbanks44 Donating Member (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 02:25 AM
Original message
'We're not going to win,' British commander says of bid to quash Taliban
KANDAHAR, AFGHANISTAN; LONDON -- Britain's top commander in Afghanistan says the war will not end in victory, the latest indication of soul-searching as Canada's allies grapple with how to handle the rising power of the Taliban insurgency.

The blunt statement from Brigadier Mark Carleton-Smith - "We're not going to win this war" - came just days after a leaked diplomatic cable hinted that the British ambassador in Kabul has a similarly dark forecast. The brigadier suggested that a negotiated settlement will be necessary.

Speaking to The Sunday Times, Brig. Carleton-Smith

said a "decisive military victory" is not feasible and that NATO should lower its expectations about the outcome of the war. "If the Taliban were prepared to sit on the other side of the table and talk about a political settlement, then that's precisely the sort of progress that concludes insurgencies like this."

"That shouldn't make people uncomfortable," he said.

More:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20081006.AFGHAN06/TPStory/International
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 03:01 AM
Response to Original message
1. Cheney just had to run off on his neocon adventure in Iraq.
Bin Laden's escape from Tora Bora was a direct result, and now look where this neglect has led.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 03:12 AM
Response to Reply #1
2. In the really long run I don't think it would have mattered..
Even the full might of the US Military couldn't completely dominate Afghanistan.

The Afghan people and terrain have been chewing up and spitting out would be conquerors since roughly about the time history began, we aren't the first and I doubt we will be the last.

The Soviets pulled back a bloody stump and they had far better reason to be there and far shorter supply lines since they were right next door.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 03:26 AM
Response to Reply #2
3. Au contraire
We had a chance to capture bin Laden and most of his top lieutenants. But they escaped and surely have helped the Taliban recover. History indicates a long term occupation of Afghanistan is ill advised as you say, but we had time between 2001 and now to do what we needed. But we squandered that opportunity looking for WMD program related activities and freedom in Iraq. Now our position in Afghanistan and Pakistan has turned to crap and we're broke - just like bin Laden planned.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Caliman73 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 03:35 AM
Response to Original message
4. ???
Doggone it! That's just the "white flag of surrender" you betcha!!:sarcasm:

We have two Republican idiots that think that the US will do what no other country in history has been able to do including the Greek empire, the British empire, and the Soviet Union...conquer and subdue the Middle East AND Afghanistan. Unfortunately, in order not to appear weak, we have our candidates pushing for more involvement in Afghanistan as well. Hopefully when Obama wins he will realize that we cannot fight history and we will just get Bin Laden and get out of the quagmires.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu May 02nd 2024, 04:26 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC