Are U.S. citizens slaves in the form of debt bondage?

[arcadian]

[Arctic Dave]

1. Even if you are completely debt free in your

personal life, the federal gov't has effectively turned you into a slave for their interest.

[lligrd]

2. True! nt

[haele]

3. Technology has done the average citizen in -

We are in debt bondage for 2 reasons -
1 - the US economy has become credit based; there are very few "goods" backing our currency. Your ability to handle money is based not on your own work or efforts, but on the credit loaned to you and your community by banking interests. Every business that provides a living wage, no matter how small or "under the table", works with some form of promissary to pay or credit (including checks) or credit provider (electronic debit, paypal, etc). Most major purchase or service a citizen pays for is usually done with some form of credit vehicle provided by a bank; very few people can use cash on hand for anything major.
Unless one is set up to live strictly by barter and "homesteads" off any infrastructure grid (water/power) in a subsistance manner just like it's 1908, credit and debt are a way of life.
2 - Technology - to actively function in US society, every citizen is identified in some form or another across all levels of government; primaraly for tax and social services agencies. Once you've been "tagged", you are considered pretty much "in debt" to society for your well-being. If you want to have a reasonably comfortable life for you and your family, you need to function in society. If you don't mind living on the fringes, you won't have to live with that "debt" even local governments require.

Doesn't matter if you're a Liberal, Conservative, or Liberatarian - unless you're very rich or very poor, to participate in society, you will carry some form of debt.

The trick is to convice "society" that there needs to be a reciprocation - services and opportunities for betterment to be provided - to justify the amount of your debt to it. If society is based on service production to the citizen - as in governments serving the people; then your debt to participate is balanced by the services you recieve. If society is based on wealth production, the citizen becomes a consumer - a function of wealth, and the government serves the more wealthy over the general citezenry. The average person's debt to participate goes to wealth production, rather than services recieved, and results in double payment to get services from those who oversee the methods of production and services.
And technology has become the tool to guarentee that debt gets recorded remotely and paid with "no mistakes" and no compassion for circumstances that a local entity might forgive. Everything needs to be placed immediatly in it's specific "category", be it item, situation, or person.

There used to be a wilderness for those who couldn't deal with society or debt to disappear in and remake themselves on their own merits to go to. Time used to be a tool to allow negotiations, mitigations, or corrections before things got out of hand. That's no longer an option. There's no more "re-dos" or corrections. Those who have bad luck or can't deal with living within the arbitrary rules of living with credit or working for someone else will be saddled with debt bondage for the rest of their lives.

Haele

[blindpig]

4. Not to mention wage labor. n/t