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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 10:12 AM
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The Halliburton-ization of the Bailout-Paulson Hiring "Outside Contractors" To Rescue Taxpayer's $$$
Edited on Sat Oct-04-08 10:28 AM by kpete

The coup is complete



The Halliburton-ization of the Bailout
by: David Sirota
Sat Oct 04, 2008 at 10:43

We knew this was coming:

"Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson is hiring as many as 10 asset-management firms to join the lawyers and bankers he is recruiting to jumpstart the government's new $700 billion bank-rescue program...Lobbyists say the Treasury wants to run the program as much as possible with outside contractors."

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aPP4plUw7LgM
via:
http://openleft.com/showDiary.do;jsessionid=38842583AA46C733C7F3943429BBD0E0?diaryId=8827



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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 10:19 AM
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1. THe question really is: who has the expertise- and how do we guard against conflict of interests?
Blinder got that right in today's NY Times:

"“With anyone short of the stature and honesty of a Paul Volcker running it, you need to worry a lot about conflicts of interest,” said Alan S. Blinder, a former vice chairman of the Federal Reserve, referring to its former head. “Unfortunately, there just aren’t many people with the expertise you need but without any possible conflicts.”

The Treasury officials said they were still writing a policy on conflicts of interest as well as guidelines on compensation."
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 11:34 AM
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10. Since the selection of 2000, "conflict of interest" doesn't apply anymore,
unless, it's among the common people.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 10:19 AM
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2. In THIS CASE I think it's a good thing. Nobody at Treasury knows
much about real estate, and this project is too big for trial & error.
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 10:25 AM
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3. There goes our money!
(flushing sound)

Bye, bye, money!
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 10:29 AM
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4. yep
our money will be "disappeared"...
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 10:31 AM
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5. How much is Neil Bush receiving? Are there any journalists left?
Edited on Sat Oct-04-08 10:31 AM by FSogol
If so, answer that question.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 10:58 AM
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6. massive headache coming on....
:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 11:05 AM
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7. Like this is a surprise. Anyone with half a brain said this would happen.
Edited on Sat Oct-04-08 11:07 AM by Neshanic
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JFN1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 11:11 AM
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8. And were mostly ignored
and discounted.
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 11:45 AM
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13. Yes. We were.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 11:12 AM
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9. $700 billion to all their friends...........AN ABSOLUTE OUTRAGE!!!!
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 11:39 AM
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11. and of course it's a done thing.
he got congress to endorse it. what else is there really to say? all we can do is watch.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 11:40 AM
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12. Happy to K & R.
This is Phase Two of the theft, and for this theft to work, it must be mostly hidden from overt public view. Phase Two is also why there could be NO protection for the individual against foreclosure or bankruptcy.

Phase One was public.
Congress had to openly divert public (taxpayer) funds to their BIG Corporate campaign contributors....In this case, the Wall Street Bankers.


Financial industry big houses have contributed almost twice in funds to Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama in comparison to his Republican rival John McCain.

For both candidates, Wall Street's investment and banking sectors have become among their portliest cash cows...

"No matter who wins in November, Wall Street will have a friend in the White House," said Massie Ritsch of the Center for Responsive Politics, which crunched the data for The Daily News.

http://www.newstrackindia.com/newsdetails/4517




Barack Obama rakes in millions from law firms serving the interests of Wall Street, including the financial institutions that gave us the subprime lending crisis.

http://www.blackagendareport.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=613&Itemid=1



In Phase Two the "regulators" will step in and devalue properties. This will work best if the "regulators" are private corporations whose books are not openly available for public inspection.
The best "bargains" in devalued properties will be shopped to their cronies at pennies on the dollar.
In the some cases, the very same people who defaulted will be allowed to buy back their foreclosed properties with the taxpayer picking up the difference.

Here is an example from the S&L Bailout which is the blueprint for the Wall St bailout:

Jeb Bush defaulted on a $4.56 million loan from Broward Federal Savings in Sunrise, Florida. After federal regulators closed the S&L, the office building that Jeb used the $4.56 million to finance was reappraised by the regulators at $500,000, which Bush and his partners paid. The taxpayers had to pay back the remaining 4 million plus dollars.

http://rationalrevolution.net/war/bush_family_and_the_s.htm


Don't Worry.
Be Happy!
:woohoo:



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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 11:54 AM
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16. But, but, we made money on theRTC thing! Really we did!
"In Phase Two the "regulators" will step in and devalue properties. This will work best if the "regulators" are private corporations whose books are not openly available for public inspection.
The best "bargains" in devalued properties will be shopped to their cronies at pennies on the dollar.
In the some cases, the very same people who defaulted will be allowed to buy back their foreclosed properties with the taxpayer picking up the difference.

Here is an example from the S&L Bailout which is the blueprint for the Wall St bailout:


Jeb Bush defaulted on a $4.56 million loan from Broward Federal Savings in Sunrise, Florida. After federal regulators closed the S&L, the office building that Jeb used the $4.56 million to finance was reappraised by the regulators at $500,000, which Bush and his partners paid. The taxpayers had to pay back the remaining 4 million plus dollars."

Thank you posting this information. We NEVER learn from the past.
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 11:49 AM
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14. This should be followed by the NYTs and others if they want to sell newspapers!!
Someone has to step up and follow the money! We are going down together in the boat and those that have their money off shore need to have the lifeboats pulled out from under them! Time to scream from the rooftops!
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 11:51 AM
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15. Um, the NYT is part of the scam.
And they sure as hell aren't planning on blowing anyone's PNAC cover anytime soon.
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 12:37 PM
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17. I am not sure if I agree - David Stout had this very good article yesterday in the NYT's.........
Here Are Some Answers to the Public’s Questions About the Financial Crisis

By DAVID STOUT
Published: October 3, 2008

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/04/business/economy/04questions.html?scp=16&sq=Who%20will%20watch%20the%20bailout?&st=cse

WASHINGTON — With the markets bobbing up and down daily, millions of Americans have been queasy about their personal finances and, to judge from readers’ comments as well as opinion surveys, wondering whether the ship of state is still seaworthy.

(snip)

Q. Even if the government gets some of the money back in the course of a rescue plan, it sounds as if America can say farewell to the really good times, doesn’t it?

A. Beware of predictions like that. Remember that a decade or so ago, with the country awash in prosperity and the Soviet Union and the cold war having passed into history, there was some serious debate about what the government should do with the enormous budget surpluses projected for the first decade of the new century.

A terrorist attack, a recession and a couple of wars later, that debate seems as ancient as arguments over whether Americans would ever buy Japanese cars. There is no perfect telescope to peer into the future.

Q. If taxpayers finance this recovery plan, will Social Security and Medicare be affected?

A. There will be no effect on Social Security and Medicare, which are paid for through deductions from paychecks and contributions from employers. Yes, Social Security and Medicare face some problems that will have to be addressed sooner or later, but to avoid a headache, you should think of those issues apart from the current financial crisis. And tune out oversimplified, alarmist language.

Q. But if the government spends hundreds of billions of dollars on a rescue plan, won’t there be a mountain of debt that will take years to pay off?

A. There’s already a mountain. As for the current crisis, optimists have suggested that after the Treasury buys up those troubled mortgage-backed securities and resells them, it could actually wind up ahead.

Previous “financial interventions,” as the Congressional Research Service of the Library of Congress calls them, have turned a profit. When the government helped Chrysler with $1.5 billion in loan guarantees in 1980, it made a profit of $311 million from the sale of warrants, or options to buy stock. On the other hand, the 1989 bailout of the savings and loan industry cost the Treasury $150 billion, according to the research service.

The value of the mortgage-backed securities in the current crisis will not really be known until they are unraveled. As the research service says, surely without fear of contradiction, determining the cost of government intervention “is not straightforward.”

Q. Despite all the talk about Wall Street greed and regulators who don’t regulate, aren’t the American people partly to blame for the current mess, considering that a lot of them took on debt they couldn’t pay back?

A. Political oratory notwithstanding, there is no simple answer to this one. Most Americans still make their mortgage payments each month. And one person’s greed is another person’s aspiration. Yes, some people took on debt they ultimately could not handle, and there were some shady lenders and real estate speculators, but no two situations are alike.

Being a homeowner is a big part of the American dream, and has long been encouraged by the government. Consider the mortgage-interest deduction, for instance. Q. Suppose the Treasury can’t sell all those mortgage-backed securities for anything close to what it paid for them. Couldn’t that put the government deeper in the hole, and shouldn’t that worry people?

A. We’re back to that “mountain of debt.”

The rescue plan calls for raising the national debt ceiling by $700 billion, to $11.3 trillion. But, again, it has never been clear that the full $700 billion will be spent. In fact, the Congressional Budget Office has estimated that the final cost could be “substantially less.”

And all this talk about billions and trillions demands a little perspective. As of mid-August, the total outstanding debt of the United States government was just a bit more than $9.6 trillion, according to the budget office. But not quite $4.2 trillion of that is debt held by government trust fund accounts, the largest being those for Social Security and also including accounts for retirement benefits destined for military people and civil service employees. Economists, who supposedly understand this stuff, like to focus more on the publicly held debt that the United States owes to domestic and foreign lenders. That number, now just above $5.4 trillion, is about 38 percent of the country’s gross domestic product for 2008. Compare that to the historical high of 1946, when World War II had pushed the overall debt to 109 percent. Moreover, a lot of the debt is owed to Americans whose portfolios include Treasury securities.

Q. But shouldn’t the people be worried that a huge bill will come due one day?

A. Again, some perspective is called for. Consider this passage from an article in The Times: “When President Bush informed the nation last Sunday night that remaining in Iraq next year will cost another $87 billion, many of those who will actually pay that bill were unable to watch. They had already been put to bed by their parents.”

That was written five years and several hundred billion dollars ago and is truer than ever. Also the United States still has a good credit history. Perfect, in fact. It has never defaulted.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 08:05 PM
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20. That's what I'm talking about.
Canned bromides and distractions, still fresh five years later. Summary: "The fundamentals are sound, you can blame the manifest evidence to the contrary on terrists, God bless America."
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 07:58 PM
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18. uuuuuuuuuuuggghhhh I feel sick.
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 08:05 PM
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19. My wife just heard this...
on the nightly MSM news.

I know because all I could hear from outside was her screaming and yelling and stomping around. I came in and asked her what's up, and she was damn near incoherent.

Like we used to say in the Corps.... BOHICA... Bend Over, Here It Comes Again....
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