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lynettebro440 Donating Member (950 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 06:26 PM
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We write a check for 850 billion dollars
and all they can talk about is that we are going to pay for this for a long time. Now don't get me wrong, I understand both sides of this fucking mess. I work in an industry of insurance and live in a city that is # 4 on the list of cities that would be taken down if the financial industry crashes. I'm worried about my job just like everyone else. But if someone just cut me a check for $250 billion dollars I would be jumping up and down for the rest of my life. I would think the world would change instantly, and for the better. But it just proves to me that these people don't give a rats ass about money, it has nothing to do about the amount. What these people get off on is the power.

I wrote several years ago about a time back in the late 80's when I came very close and personal to seeing the in depth crookedness and evil that these people, that have control of our nation, are like. I lived in Omaha, NE and at the time there were children, all over the place kidnapped, missing or murdered. I had a situation of the same, when a creepy old guy tried to entice my 7 year and 3 year old into his car. After a few times of attempting this and after being told by the police that they couldn't do anything unless he had actually kidnapped my kids, I took action. Long story short I helped create a bill for enticement in the state of Nebraska. But the real story was that the old guy that was trying to kidnap my kids, happened to be, the one in the same, the man that was listed in the Franklin Credit Union scandal book as a suspicious death, he was listed #1, Bill Baker. (for those of you that have never heard of it, I would advise looking in to it, written by Senator John DeCamp.

The long and short is that through all the crap that was discovered, the bottom line was that this ran all the way up to the white house where Papa Bush was keeping house. Now the stories that I watched become uncovered, the unbelievable stories that were being told by children, adults and people that had walked away from the evil of it all, was hardly ever spoken about. I bet if I took a vote of the few hundred people here that will read this, that they hadn't even heard about it. But if you had been aware and you followed the dots, the level of evil these people are about is astronomical and they are continuing till the end...or longer if they have their way.

None of this is about money to these people. These people are so evil that what they do behind closed doors would make you stand there and say there is no way. But the honest to god truth is, that is exactly what they are like. I guess these people have felt like since back in the 1980's, they could do just about anything they wanted, with anyone they wanted to do it with, that their cockiness has morphed into creative in your face intimidation and they know there is nothing you can do about it.

But what I learned about these people was that they hate the truth. The more people that begin to learn the truth about them the more intimidating they become. The more you stand up and find the ways to refuse them to be who they are, the more vicious they become. While passing my bill in NE at the time, the newspaper, police department, political figures were right in our faces and were more harm then help. But what Senator DeCamp wrote in his book (and which I didn't learn about till after I moved) was that the police, the newspaper, the big money were all in the child kidnapping and molesting scheme that they had been living. End of the story, because of all the publicity that I was able to manage, (and it was a lot) someone mysteriously broke into Bill Bakers home and shot him execution style in the back of the head. (and no it wasn't me, I had moved out of state 4 weeks earlier..LOL..but I thought about it).

When Joe Biden said last night that Dick Cheney was the most evil man that he had ever met, he wasn't kidding. These people have been meeting in the back room and fulfilling their fantasies with us, our children and grandchildren. The only way to fight these people is to speak the truth, not to separate because we are pissed, but to uncover every piece of dirt, filth and crookedness we can muster. I'm hoping that Obama plans on cleaning all this up, but it is so deep and so evil that even you, the most liberal minds that I have listened to, wouldn't even believe it yourself. Sorry this is so long, but these people have been ruling evil among us for most of my life and I'm sick and tired of it. It has to be stopped, because the true evil is holding us captive and we are smiling and saying OK....

Let's uncover it all guys, these people really have to be stopped and now. Thanks.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 06:32 PM
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1. It's W's last supreme fuckup
He and his buddies want their severance package

This is that
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 06:57 PM
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2. we can only hope
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 07:14 PM
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3. Yeah, that's what I'm hoping too
Of course, I'm sure if there is any new chance to loot the treasury they will...
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 09:18 PM
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4. Good post.
I was floored when Biden called Cheney the most dangerous Vice President we have ever had. The CNN undecided voters meter jumped when he said that. It's so good to finally hear the truth come out of a Dem who actually had a huge viewership (unlike, say, Kucinich). It's all about the power which is swinging back toward the people.

Ain't no power
like the power of the people,
'cause the power of the people don't stop!


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lynettebro440 Donating Member (950 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 10:16 PM
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5. Right on intheflow
we need to take back the power.
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Luna_C_06 Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 10:26 PM
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6. Do you know the name of the book Senator DeCamp wrote? nt
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lynettebro440 Donating Member (950 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 11:12 PM
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7. This will get you started
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Irish Girl Donating Member (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 11:39 PM
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8. Take heart Lynettebro
Edited on Fri Oct-03-08 11:42 PM by coincidenceor...
The energy I've always felt off these people has always made my skin crawl. Take heart that it will all be uncovered, this is something I truly believe. All the corruption will be exposed. Even the weird crap these guys do on their yearly outings (with complete media blackout on it, of course) is so bizarre.

I just don't understand where all our 'for the people' investigative journalists went. Any mainstream media coverage on Washington is like watching a cartoon, it's so unreal. All fluff and no substance from anyone. People are petrified to be critical of anything anymore, which shows me the media they allow us to see in our living room is all carefully contrived, bought and paid for.

My friend used to be involved with politics and I've heard a lot of disgusting rumors involving children (orgies and even worse). It's only a matter of time before someone blows this thing wide open, when people stop being afraid.
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lynettebro440 Donating Member (950 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 12:05 AM
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9. I truly hope you are right coincidenceor
When Bill Baker ended up dead it was surreal, and for 30 some years I have been sitting on the knowledge from first hand witnessing what was really happened. It popped me into reality and I haven't been able to step out of it since. I hope I live to see the day that justice is finally been done. If there is a hell (and I doubt that there would be) these are the people residing there.
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New Dawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 12:15 AM
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10. Kick for truth.
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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 07:25 AM
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11. I hope your girls are well now.
When Bush took over, the Federal Government offered help for all pedophile cases. If you are correct, it gives them a heads-up on any local investigation that might find its way to these high-level people.

But, I think the sexual aspect is only part of the underlying motivations that need, not so much the sex, as the need for the control of people to the bidding of such controllers -- and sex just happens to be a good control mechanism. Thus the sex-players are expendable, of course only after considering the cost of setup.

Anyone going into politics is asked to list their deepest darkest secrets for the case that during a campaign, the handlers will know how best to word their retorts. Imagine the power a political party has. Enough to destroy their livelihood at any time. They might just as well take to their dark spoils power affords them.

Then the best of them are sunk.

It is an insidious problem, so big a lie it can hardly be believed. But, the priest problem was finally believed, so there is hope.

But, sadly, we have all our peccadilloes. I just hope that each of us curb them effectively. So, I see two paths to illuminate this huge problem. One is to villainize the evil doers. The other is shine light upon the truth about all of us. I'm not sure which is best.

It is so easy to sit in judgment of others from the comfort of a self-righteous arm-chair. And, I'm sitting in an arm chair typing this.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 07:39 AM
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13. Before I start reading the links....
are you saying it has been a "master plan" to get known pedophiles (known only to the repug operatives) into politics, with their knowledge of the person's past/present activities being the leverage to make them do as they are told in political office?

Sorry, I'm being dense, and I'm nervous about diving further into this rabbit hole, as I fear I will go off the deep end once I learn of this history.

I'm a conspiracy believer...9/11 and all, so I believe anything is possible. When it pertains to evil intentionally and directly perpetuated on children, I will go batshit crazy for sure.

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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 09:14 AM
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15. It more haphazard than just that.
When a political player has even one peccadillo, it doesn't matter which one. Youngsters, same-sex, money-mad, control-freak, ... After showing up on the radar these people can be quietly supported and then controlled when needed. Or, find out what it is, as COULD be done in the Rev. Moon's DC housing place. Try a few things and when the newbie Congresscritter falls for the 16-yo girl/boy, graft, or whatever, take pictures.

If you fear for your own sanity in this, you might be well advised not to go there. It will get ugly before it becomes clear.

My suggestion is to google "Money Masters" and look at the video for a riveting hour. When you consider that smarts tends to skip a generation, but bully contrivance does not, it can be understood how long lived families can control an aspect of our daily lives for generation after generation.

Good luck.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 01:51 PM
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21. Thank you. I haven't jumped in as yet....
had to leave and am now at another location, so will wait my return home before watching the various videos and such.

But, I had a flash of J. Edgar Hoover as I read what you wrote. I wonder if this is where this particular sexual blackmail club started? Then again, perhaps it's been going on forever, just under the control of these particular players for several decades.

Thanks again.
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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 09:05 AM
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22. When young priest Martin Luther went to Rome...
He writes about naked boys jumping out of a cake. I am thinking that part of our current national hatred of pedophilia comes from our politics of dividing in same way we currently use drug use to divide the country and make villains of its users.

That was in the 16th century. Plato writes of his attraction to a young boy. That's earlier, much earlier.

Hoover did not start it, but he probably did break ground used to this day on how to present yourself as a strong straight leader, while being a flaming gay man. Just that it is possible made it easier for the Bush people to hide their own indiscretions.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 07:33 AM
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12. Dear God...I have a very, very vague recollection of hearing...
about this. I will follow the link you provide above and learn. I'm so sorry I didn't already know the depths of this particular branch of their evil criminality.

Thank you for sharing....again.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 07:51 AM
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14. Is there a direct tie with the whole Majoral Majority Movement....
by any chance?

That would make so much sense to me, and explain the vile hypocrisy running rampant since the introduction of Falwell's Moral Majority influence.
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lynettebro440 Donating Member (950 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 10:07 AM
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16. It runs deep and long
Because all the same faces are still in the game, and most of them still meet once a year in california at the grove, I'm sure they are all inter connected in some way. Like the person above in their comment, you get caught in the rouge and you have to stand up for them for your own safety. The evil runs long and wide.
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 10:10 AM
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17. Nice to see you back, lynettebro440!
:hi: k&r
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lynettebro440 Donating Member (950 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 10:31 AM
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18. Thanks K
how you feeling

:hi:
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 10:36 AM
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19. After my cousin put her adopted son in Boys Town a few years ago....
....I researched around and read about The Franklin Coverup....that is true EVIL personified. :evilfrown:
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 11:11 AM
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20. Oh I have no trouble believing it.
Once I figured out that the 911 "conspiracy theorists" were, in fact, correct, it changed my view of everything.
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riverdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 10:32 AM
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23. I am familiar with the scenario,
but truth be told, I don't know what is real and what is conspiratorial. I know there were allegations of a child pedophile ring in that part of the country and a cover-up, I know there was a gay prostitute ring cover up that happened in the first Bush White House, and other things. But you can see how this quickly becomes unbelievable. The idea of ritualistic, systematic child sexual abuse taking place for generations among the elite is difficult to comprehend. And part of that difficulty involves how this would be kept under wraps so neatly. Surely there would be a maid that would overhear, an elite that had fallen out of favor that would blow it wide open, other scenarios.

I first encountered these concepts from a blog that is either as far down the rabbit hole as you can imagine or an accurate representation of unknown realities depending on your POV:

http://rigint.blogspot.com/

On the right you can see categories, "The Military-Occult Complex, ritual abuse/mind control, and 'High Weirdness' " is the one that deals with this stuff. The portrait of the world it paints is that everything we have been told is a lie, and that there is another secret world lying beneath the veil of this projected world, a world created by elites for generations. It is full-on conspiracy. Somewhere in there it mentions the case you were involved in. For DUers unfamiliar with the case, here's a couple of quick summaries:

(Franklin child prostitution ring allegations)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Bonacci

(Franklin Case Summary)
http://www.franklincase.org/summary.htm

It's got a lot of the elements of classic cover up theories, including a suspicious plane crash of one of the principal players.

My own take is that this stuff is interesting to know, and there are certainly at least kernels of truth to this, but I can't buy into it wholesale without more proof, simple as that. What's interesting about this blog is that takes what appears to be real news stories that you never hear about (interesting in itself), but then puts it in context of his world view.

This POV went mainstream in the Kubrick film "Eyes Wide Shut". It didn't deal with the systemic child abuse angle, but the idea of sexual deviancy being an important ritual among the elite was explored. Interesting that the star, Cruise, is actually part of a documented dangerous cult, the Scientologists.
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