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luckyleftyme2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 02:21 AM
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abc commentator gives debate to Biden

George Stephanopoulos gives winner nod to Biden.

This is my take on it not abc's

I thought she performed like a trained parrot;to rehearsed!
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 02:23 AM
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1. I thought that was the case. I came at the end when Steph was
talking about what McCain had to do in order to take control. He did win handily...she was mediocre but just managed to save herself from pure stupidity. However it did increase my dislike because I saw her for a hateful, macabre bitch.
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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 02:38 AM
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2. Well, I came to that conclusion ALL BY MYSELF!
Thanks for nothing, as usual, ABC/George Snuffleupagus

No 'value added' here. :eyes:
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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 02:44 AM
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3. Oh, and that headline, "abc gives debate to biden" ?
:wtf:

Who are 'they' (abc or ANY 'news' organization) to make such a pronouncement that 'they' can "give" the debate to Biden (or to ANYONE)?!?!?

They're just supposed to REPORT, as acurately as possible, - and then let the listeners/viewers decide FOR.THEM.SELVES!

*sheesh*
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 04:16 AM
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4. well rehearsed, you bet
she had the talking points down, energy, tax cuts, jobs created by tax cuts, maverick, surge... scrambling the talking points to make them sort of fit the question.

if they ran the mccain campaign commercials in response to questions, there would be no difference.

best line of the whole debate Ultimate Bridge to Nowhere



from debate transcript: http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/02/debate.transcript/index.html

IFILL: Governor, are you interested in defending Sen. McCain's health care plan?

PALIN: I am because he's got a good health care plan that is detailed. And I want to give you a couple details on that. He's proposing a $5,000 tax credit for families so that they can get out there and they can purchase their own health care coverage. That's a smart thing to do. That's budget neutral. That doesn't cost the government anything as opposed to Barack Obama's plan to mandate health care coverage and have universal government run program and unless you're pleased with the way the federal government has been running anything lately, I don't think that it's going to be real pleasing for Americans to consider health care being taken over by the feds. But a $5,000 health care credit through our income tax that's budget neutral. That's going to help. And he also wants to erase those artificial lines between states so that through competition, we can cross state lines and if there's a better plan offered somewhere else, we would be able to purchase that. So affordability and accessibility will be the keys there with that $5,000 tax credit also being offered.

IFILL: Thank you, governor. Senator?

BIDEN: Gwen, I don't know where to start. We don't call a redistribution in my neighborhood Scranton, Claymont, Wilmington, the places I grew up, to give the fair to say that not giving Exxon Mobil another $4 billion tax cut this year as John calls for and giving it to middle class people to be able to pay to get their kids to college, we don't call that redistribution. We call that fairness number one. Number two fact, 95 percent of the small businesses in America, their owners make less than $250,000 a year. They would not get one single solitary penny increase in taxes, those small businesses.

BIDEN: Now, with regard to the -- to the health care plan, you know, it's with one hand you giveth, the other you take it. You know how Barack Obama -- excuse me, do you know how John McCain pays for his $5,000 tax credit you're going to get, a family will get?

He taxes as income every one of you out there, every one of you listening who has a health care plan through your employer. That's how he raises $3.6 trillion, on your -- taxing your health care benefit to give you a $5,000 plan, which his Web site points out will go straight to the insurance company.

And then you're going to have to replace a $12,000 -- that's the average cost of the plan you get through your employer -- it costs $12,000. You're going to have to pay -- replace a $12,000 plan, because 20 million of you are going to be dropped. Twenty million of you will be dropped.

So you're going to have to place -- replace a $12,000 plan with a $5,000 check you just give to the insurance company. I call that the "Ultimate Bridge to Nowhere."


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