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Hatfield Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 07:11 PM
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CSPAN NOW
Edited on Thu Oct-02-08 07:13 PM by Hatfield
D - Rep Brad Shermann on the bailout.

Kucinich just finished and Shermann is speaking with Marcy Kaptur of Ohio.

These are the folks lead we need to be following on this bill.
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 07:13 PM
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1. MSNBC NOW ..... Keith Olberman !!! And a Debate coming up !!
:)
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Hatfield Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 07:17 PM
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4. And I'm a Life Long Cubs Fan
Edited on Thu Oct-02-08 07:26 PM by Hatfield
And have opted to stayed glued to CSPAN over the past 2 nights. Sherman is right on the money with this bill and needs all of our support he can get. Biden owning Bible Spice on the debate can wait.
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 07:19 PM
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5. "Bible Spice" - LMAO!
Hadn't heard that one.

DU really needs a sticky list of Palin names.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 07:27 PM
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9. We're too creative - that list will never be static,
at least until we send her back to the Great White North, we're she belongs.
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 07:33 PM
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14. Not static, but Sticky..so it stays at the top of the list permanently
It would definitely grow into a long list!
:-)
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 07:27 PM
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8. Ha Ha fair enough !!
welcome to DU .... but my Dodgers Owned you yesterday ..... ;) welcome to DU by the way :hi:

Oh and by the way before the meme from CSPAN on the 'martial law' comment goes viral .... see this link just in case ... http://www.cbpp.org/7-28-06bud-stmt.htm

Peace.
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 07:42 PM
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17. Filthy Republicans..How can they even claim to be part of the democratic process?
<snip>
The House Republican Leadership has announced its intention to have the House vote, before adjourning on Friday or Saturday, on several major pieces of legislation that are not yet available to House members in final form because behind-closed-door negotiations on the proposals are still going on. The Leadership apparently intends to use a process known as “martial law” to allow these bills to be brought to the floor very shortly after negotiations are completed, with the result that Members of the House are likely to have virtually no time to examine and consider the details of the legislation before they will be required to vote on it.

<snip>

Under the martial law procedure, longstanding House rules that require at least one day between the unveiling of significant legislation and the House floor vote on that legislation — so that Members can learn what they are being asked to vote on — are swept away.

<snip>

The House leadership is using a parliamentary gambit to evade a longstanding House rule that is supposed to ensure that this kind of obfuscation does not occur. That House rule (Rule XIII(6)(a)) provides that a resolution (called a rule) reported by the Rules Committee cannot be considered by the House on the same legislative day that the rule is reported (except by a two-thirds vote of the House). This is supposed to ensure that Members of the House and the public have at least one day to examine and analyze what is in legislation before they have to debate and vote on it.

To maneuver around this House rule and rush the three proposals discussed above to a vote before they have been fully examined, the Rules Committee reported a rule late Thursday afternoon (H.Res. 958) that would waive the application of Rule XIII(6)(a). Instead, it would allow the Rules Committee to wait until the last minute and not to report the rules governing the consideration of these bills or to release the text of the bills themselves until immediately before debate and votes on the bills, and on the rules governing their consideration, commences.

This extraordinary procedure is known as a “martial law” rule because it suspends the normal procedures and safeguards and allows the House Leadership to operate in a more authoritarian fashion. It enables the Leadership to seek to ram a bill or conference report through before the Members have the opportunity to fully understand what they are voting on.
</snip>

Referring to 3 large spending bills
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 07:49 PM
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18. Bible Spice LMAO!!!!
Two points for the new guy ... and welcome to DU! :hi:
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 07:13 PM
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2. Thank you for the head's up! And welcome to DU.
Sherman's my rep and apparently he proposed an amendment regarding foreign creditors and it was turned down.


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Hatfield Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 07:24 PM
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7. Bush Threatened to Veto
If the foreign creditor assistance was not included.

Here is A link I made the other night which pretty much fell on deaf ears. Sherman has done a tremendous job with regards to this bill. I'm in Alabama, but he has whatever he needs from me right now.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=4140610&mesg_id=4140610

And thank you for the welcome, been lurkin for awhile, but this recent clusterfuck of a bill has made me want to do everything I can to expose it for what it is. Just following the lead from your Rep.

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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 07:28 PM
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10. Well, posting at 1:12 am PST is 4:12 am EST! The forums are almost empty at that hour!
You gotta post closer to 6 am EST to get some real hits!


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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 07:34 PM
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15. That's My Bush - Always putting 'Murka First
:sarcasm:
:puke:
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99th_Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 07:14 PM
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3. did you hear his reference to being threatened with "martial law"?
:scared:
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 07:22 PM
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6. Missed it, who said that? edit - Shermann? n/t
Edited on Thu Oct-02-08 07:23 PM by slipslidingaway
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 07:29 PM
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12. Sherman was calling it blackmail.
oh, and he also said, in a withering tone, " why is Paulson the only person who has control over the money? I thought he HAD a job now"
pointing out that Paulson is leaving his post in Jan.

Sherman did a great job pointing to the naked emperor.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 07:32 PM
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13. Thanks for the details! n/t
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 07:29 PM
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11. See post 8 just in case it was another type of martial law he was referring to.
Peace.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 07:35 PM
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16. Thanks and copied below for others...
HOUSE LEADERSHIP INVOKES “MARTIAL LAW,” FORCING MEMBERS TO VOTE ON KEY BILLS WITHOUT FULL KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT THEY ARE VOTING ON: MOVE REPRESENTS EROSION OF THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS

Statement by Robert Greenstein
Executive Director, Center on Budget and Policy Priorities

"The House Republican Leadership has announced its intention to have the House vote, before adjourning on Friday or Saturday, on several major pieces of legislation that are not yet available to House members in final form because behind-closed-door negotiations on the proposals are still going on. The Leadership apparently intends to use a process known as “martial law” to allow these bills to be brought to the floor very shortly after negotiations are completed, with the result that Members of the House are likely to have virtually no time to examine and consider the details of the legislation before they will be required to vote on it..."

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