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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 07:19 AM
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The House Bill sucked, but it was better than this piece of trash..
that the Senate just passed...WTF are they doing? At this point I'm ready to go all Little Orphan Annie and let the whole thing crash and burn to the ground.

The sun'll come out tomorrow?

P.S. According to Jim Cramer after the crash of 1929 it took 56 years for the stock market to get back to it's pre-crash level. Like G.W. Bush I'll be dead.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 07:23 AM
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1. Bet your bottom dollar
tra la............:)
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daninthemoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 07:24 AM
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2. I'm about there with you. Crash the damn mess, and have a do-over.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 07:25 AM
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3. 56 years to get pre-crash level?
Edited on Thu Oct-02-08 07:26 AM by ingac70
Jim Cramer is a :dunce:



It took a while, but not that long. Did he you mean until 1956?
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 07:33 AM
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6. He must have, because it did. nt
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 07:40 AM
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8. That could have been what he meant,..
or I misunderstood, I agree he's a lunatic I watch him for entertainment value and not advice.
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SteelPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 07:48 AM
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11. 1954 actually
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 07:54 AM
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12. He May Have Been Factoring Inflation into the Prices
At the height of the market in 1929, valuations were at bubble levels.
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secondwind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 07:26 AM
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4. A silver lining to all of this is : McCain's "pork" message has bee neutralized.........
I'm sure this was what the Dems in the Senate intended. They rock!
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 07:41 AM
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9. EXCELLENT POINT!!!
I hadn't thought of that, hopefully Biden will hit the Barracuda with that tonight.
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onlyadream Donating Member (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 07:29 AM
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5. Am I right about this?
Okay, I was not for the bail out, I thought the tax payers would suffer for the greed of Wall St. BUT, according to Wiki, as of 2007, there are about 138 million taxpayers in the United States. So, when I do the math:

$700,000,000/138,000,000 tax payers = $5.07 per tax payer.

Is this right? If so, then why was I thinking it was such a big deal?
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bigscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 07:36 AM
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7. you are off by 3 orders of magnitude
700,000,000,000/130,000,000 = $5072.00 per taxpayer
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Spike from MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 08:01 AM
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14. Yeah, and that's without interest.
I believe Kucinich said that with interest, it's more like $6900 per taxpayer.
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onlyadream Donating Member (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 08:38 AM
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16. oops
forgot a few zeros (was too early and I have a head cold - excuses excuses).
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Spike from MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 09:08 AM
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17. Too bad the members of Congress didn't suffer from the same
problem. That would have saved us a LOT of money.
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onlyadream Donating Member (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 11:24 AM
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19. Yeah, now I wish they get bad head colds!!! Really bad.
:(
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 07:42 AM
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10. I agree that it probably needs to be done..
as it is unfortunately the lesser of two probably evils. It's a pretty big deal though, last I heard they predicted it would be $2300.00 for every man woman and child, the tab may have gone up by now though.
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 07:56 AM
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13. I noticed your Obama avatar...
...and hope you consider removing it, replacing Obama with McKinney or Nader.

It's the only principled thing to do.

After all, he just voted for the worst bill ever. For the last step in the Fascist takeover. For selling our children and grandchildren in perpetuity down the river.

You have to punish someone for a vote like that, don't you?

Or are we no better that the GOP? We know they'll sacrifice any and every principle to electoral expediency.

Bailout opponents, put your ballots where your mouths are -- or admit there was a case for a pro-bailout vote, from, say, Sen. Obama....

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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 08:14 AM
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15. No, I"m not removing my avatar..
and I'm not a bailout opponent. But this thing STINKS.
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pnutbutr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 09:10 AM
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18. out of curiosity
What parts do you dislike about the senate bill linked below?

http://cryptome.org/bailout-senate.htm
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