The Senate caved in

[malaise]

58 Yes 18 No so far

[RB TexLa]

1. The senate has already passed it once.

[Lint Head]

2. 65 Y 19 N

:dem:

[javert]

3. bill passed 74-25 nt

[ixion]

4. yet another dark day for the US republic

I'm so very sad right now. :( :cry:

[malaise]

7. October 1st 2008

Too sad.

[babylonsister]

5. Did you expect something different? I really didn't. nt

[malaise]

9. No

:puke:

[lostnotforgotten]

6. Let's Hope The House Still Has Some Balls To Reject!

eom

[Jeanette in FL]

8. A freaking bunch of cowards.

I am happy about my Senators vote. Nelson - No. Couldn't believe it.

[Telly Savalas]

11. Obama, Boxer, and Kerry are all cowards?

[depakid]

12. Yep- anyone who wants to avert a credit market disaster is a coward.

Bizarre.

[stray cat]

14. Extreme left and extreme right come full circle and are now one and the same it appears

[ContinentalOp]

16. Well yeah. Sorry we're not all extreme "centrist" pro-establishment tools...

for whom government is merely a means to corporate enrichment.

[depakid]

18. Indeed.

You may recall that there was a science article posted on DU a couple of weeks ago, under the title:

Duke and Yale studies: Truthful information only makes conservatives and Republicans dumber

The poster drew these lessons from it:

Yale and Duke University political scientists recently released the results of several fascinating studies that show that reality-based, truthful information only makes conservative republicans cling to misinformation more ferociously -- in effect, information only makes conservatives dumber.

The political scientists were even able to quantify this result, finding that providing solid information to a conservative republican doubles the probability that the conservative republican will cling to wrong, dumb information; in other words, solid information has the effect of doubling the number of conservative republicans who are stupid.

The political scientists even have a name for this phenomenon -- the "refutation effect."

This is something I've noticed in arguments with conservatives on line and in real life -- the more facts and reason you provide them, the more vociferously they cling to lies, distortions and disinformation.
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Here's the actual article:

The Power of Political Misinformation

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/14/AR2008091402375_pf.html

Seems like it may work both ways.

[stray cat]

13. Did you know the republicans in the house are now considered DU heroes?

I wonder when people start sending money to the republicans

[Jeanette in FL]

15. Yeah, they were cowards.

They sold us out.

[Telly Savalas]

19. I guess you're right.

There's pretty much no fucking way in hell that they'd be doing what they think is best for the country. Given their track records, that would be a totally fucking ridiculous thing to assume. Because it is impossible to disagree with them without attacking their character and motivations.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to help the Green Party nominee look for those 5,000 corpses, because I'm done with the Democrat Party.

[JuniperLea]

10. Anyone have a draft of the bill yet?

Scary stuff...

[old mark]

17. Look, they know where their money comes from,

and it ain't from small business or families....


mark