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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 06:12 PM
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O'Reilly claimed "women's privacy" is "the new mantra" which allows for "infanticide"
Summary: After airing a clip on his radio show of actress Ashley Judd stating that "Senator Obama has a 100 percent voting record for women's privacy and reproductive health," Fox News host Bill O'Reilly asserted that the phrase "women's privacy" is the "new mantra" which allows for "infanticide."

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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 06:15 PM
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1. I wish someone would put O'LIEly out of my misery.
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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 04:16 AM
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5. I agree
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 06:18 PM
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2. When did an abortion become "infanticide". It's a embryo, maybe a fetus, but
certainly NOT an infant. :eyes:

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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 06:35 PM
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3. Probably part of their strategy. There are groups that want a dead fetus recorded as a live birth.
If they can get that accomplished then they will claim it has rights as a human.

Unless there has been a change in any states a stillborn is recorded as a death.

If a baby is born (meaning it was breathing when it left the woman's body) and then dies shortly after even if it was a few minutes later there will be a birth record and a death record.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 06:37 PM
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4. More importantly, there is only one PERSON involved in an abortion.
The WOMAN. An unimplanted conceptus is not a person. An embryo is not a person. A fetus is not a person.
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 04:48 AM
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6. After 24 months most people, including me, would disagree.

A foetus begins to become a person as it developes a mind, which begins to happen at around 24 weeks. Its rights are still subservient to those of a mother, but the defining characteristic of a person is a mind, and once it has that it qualifies, I think.

That's why Roe vs Wade is right to allow abortion on request in the first two trimesters, when only one person is involved, but to make it the state's business but not to ban abortion in the third, when two are but one is more important than the other.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 12:09 PM
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7. I didn't think it was necessary for me to point out the obvious:
that the WOMAN involved had every right to decide when she personally considered her pregnancy to constitute a person.

From a legal standpoint, a fetus is not a person.
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