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masmdu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 07:28 AM Original message |
My friend's son shot and killed by police...Just back from 2nd tour in Iraq |
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texasleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 07:30 AM Response to Original message |
1. sorry for the loss |
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Cooley Hurd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 07:32 AM Response to Original message |
2. My god... |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 07:34 AM Response to Reply #2 |
8. Funny isn't it |
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ManiacJoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 04:23 PM Response to Reply #2 |
80. Unfortunately for Dylan, the hockey stick qualifies as a |
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AzNick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 08:23 PM Response to Reply #80 |
114. Trigger-happy cops who could have backed off n/t |
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ManiacJoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 09:33 PM Response to Reply #114 |
115. And let everyone else in the house fend for themselves? |
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AzNick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 09:59 PM Response to Reply #115 |
116. Yes, taser, bean bag, canine, whatever... |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 07:32 AM Response to Original message |
3. omg, what a terrible, terrible thing. My deepest sympathies to your friend. |
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unhappycamper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 07:32 AM Response to Original message |
4. My condolences to you and Kim, masmdu. |
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LeftyFingerPop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 07:33 AM Response to Original message |
5. I'm very very sorry. |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 07:33 AM Response to Original message |
6. unbelievable unecessary use of lethal force. Sorry for your loss /nt |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 07:33 AM Response to Original message |
7. Oh wow- I am so, so sorry |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 07:34 AM Response to Original message |
9. What the hell. Why can't these cops, if they feel threatened |
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moriah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 07:36 AM Response to Reply #9 |
15. Most officers, as well as gun-owners, are taught to shoot to kill. |
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npk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 10:50 PM Response to Reply #15 |
118. Officers are trained when they shoot to "Stop the threat" |
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Cid_B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 08:10 AM Response to Reply #9 |
32. Cannot and should not be trained to shoot not to kill... |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 09:10 AM Response to Reply #9 |
44. No, it's not used to be taught. |
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moriah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 09:40 AM Response to Reply #44 |
47. That's why my view is that they shouldn't have pulled the gun out at all. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 11:18 AM Response to Reply #9 |
53. I know. I though that situations like that are what tazers are for |
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file83 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-02-08 12:42 AM Response to Reply #53 |
100. That cop or cops that shot him have got to be in big trouble. If the guy had not even |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 11:20 AM Response to Reply #9 |
55. In some places, they are |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-02-08 01:01 AM Response to Reply #9 |
101. They have to shoot to kill. The first rule is to NEVEr let yourself get incapacitated. |
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aint_no_life_nowhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 08:12 PM Response to Reply #101 |
112. Some police like to put themselves in a situation where they get to have target practice |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 07:35 AM Response to Original message |
10. i hate it. hate it hate it. the police are out of control. there will be excusers. |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 03:38 PM Response to Reply #10 |
75. The police are getting more abusive and aggressive. I think Homeland Security may have something to |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 03:52 PM Response to Reply #75 |
79. homeland, bush/repug macho mentality, the higher up in police force not |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 04:23 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. From your lips to God's ears. |
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 08:57 PM Response to Reply #10 |
90. same here, I hate it too |
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moriah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 07:35 AM Response to Original message |
11. Jesus Christ. |
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tomg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 07:35 AM Response to Original message |
12. I am so sorry for your friend, for you, |
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BlueJazz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 07:36 AM Response to Original message |
13. Words fail to express my sadness.... |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 07:36 AM Response to Original message |
14. A hockey stick is 'some kind of weapon'? This is outrageous. |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 11:14 AM Response to Reply #14 |
51. Cops investigating cops? Good luck with that. |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-02-08 01:03 AM Response to Reply #14 |
102. a hockey stick in the side of the head is lethal. Do you think they wanted to risk losing their guns |
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secondwind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 07:37 AM Response to Original message |
16. what a tragedy................I can never understand why cops don't aim to "debilitate" instead |
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moriah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 07:41 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. They should be taught not to pull the gun at all. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 09:09 AM Response to Reply #16 |
43. Because it's a lot harder and more dangerous to by-standers |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 11:24 AM Response to Reply #16 |
58. And don't they all carry tazers? |
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tpsbmam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 07:38 AM Response to Original message |
17. Horrified, just horrified. I'm so sorry -- what a needless |
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1awake (852 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 07:38 AM Response to Original message |
18. I'm sorry for the sad loss of life |
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Jim__ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 07:39 AM Response to Original message |
19. So sorry to hear this - a tragedy. |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 07:41 AM Response to Original message |
21. George Walker Bush |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 07:45 AM Response to Original message |
22. Rule #1 as a parent. Never ever, ever, ever call the police on your own children |
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varelse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 07:47 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Dad called the ambulance, not the cops |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 07:49 AM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Paramedics don't respond without police back-up |
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druidity33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 08:06 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. i don't think so... |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 08:10 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. We haver had to call them many times for my father |
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druidity33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 12:25 PM Response to Reply #31 |
65. varies by region i guess... nt |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 08:12 AM Response to Reply #26 |
34. That varies from neighborhood to neighborhood |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 11:20 AM Response to Reply #26 |
56. Paramedics respond without police back up in Ohio and Florida |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 05:24 PM Response to Reply #26 |
86. Not around here. I've had to call EMTs three times in the past ten years... |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-02-08 01:07 AM Response to Reply #26 |
104. not true!! Paramedics go unaccompanied on most calls. You must live in a rough place. |
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Patiod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 08:44 AM Response to Reply #23 |
38. In our township, the cops come whenever you call an ambulance |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 09:04 AM Response to Reply #22 |
42. His dad call an ambulance, not the police, because he fell |
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TornadoTN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 03:42 PM Response to Reply #42 |
76. I believe the Police were dispatched because there apparently was a history at that address |
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Mad_Dem_X (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 07:47 AM Response to Original message |
24. So they had to KILL him? |
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RC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 07:48 AM Response to Original message |
25. He did not want to go in the ambulance and that was his right. |
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Indenturedebtor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 08:07 AM Response to Reply #25 |
30. Murder is right. People hit each other with hockeysticks all over north america every day |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 07:52 AM Response to Original message |
27. omg, comes home and gets killed. |
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Blue Diadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 08:04 AM Response to Original message |
28. OMG that's awful. |
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FourScore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 08:11 AM Response to Original message |
33. How sad!!! |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 08:16 AM Response to Original message |
35. Fuck the pigs. |
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MuseRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 08:19 AM Response to Original message |
36. Killed because he did not want |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 09:38 AM Response to Reply #36 |
46. "We Can Fix You Whether You Like It Or Not" |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 03:50 PM Response to Reply #46 |
78. "well-intentioned liberalism is taken to its most extreme" No, you're wrong. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 04:39 PM Response to Reply #78 |
84. And the Paramedics? What's Your Apologia There? |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 06:24 PM Response to Reply #84 |
87. What are of expertise were the paramedics trained for? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 08:36 AM Response to Original message |
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WePurrsevere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 08:45 AM Response to Original message |
39. My heart goes out to his loved ones. That little girl was there too poor thing... |
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TuxedoKat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 08:53 AM Response to Original message |
40. I'm so sorry |
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sonias (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 09:03 AM Response to Original message |
41. Damnit - that's not fair |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 09:32 AM Response to Original message |
45. Murder. Plain and simple. And yes, I am sure every the Bushie Sheriff talked to |
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Spritz57 (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
48. My heart goes out to both you and your friend! |
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eowyn_of_rohan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
49. This is murder. Will they be prosecuted? |
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bunkerbuster1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 11:28 AM Response to Reply #49 |
60. Team Bush? of course they won't be prosecuted. |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
50. I've seen this happen so often in domestic violence situations |
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Better Today (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
52. I've never heard of calling the police because someone wouldn't go to the hospital unless |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 11:19 AM Response to Reply #52 |
54. In some venues, the police show up with the ambulance as SOP. n/t |
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Better Today (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 11:21 AM Response to Reply #52 |
57. After reading more posts I see that it was EMS that called, my bad. |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-02-08 01:05 AM Response to Reply #52 |
103. I can't assign fault to the family or police here. He was obviously out of control.. |
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blonndee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 08:02 PM Response to Reply #103 |
110. Does a hockey stick not have a limited range? |
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CRF450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 08:07 PM Response to Reply #110 |
111. By what the article said |
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blonndee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 08:16 PM Response to Reply #111 |
113. I agree that it does need a full investigation. |
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bunkerbuster1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
59. I am so sorry for your friend's loss. And I am so angry. |
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orleans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
61. OMG! how tragic!!! and for what? because he didn't want help? |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
62. Fuck you george boosh! You piece of shit!!! n/t |
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baby_mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
63. Murderers. As simple as that. |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
64. Jesus fucking christ. |
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codjh9 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
66. I used to always trust the police, but between crazy shit like this and the Taser incidents, |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 04:44 PM Response to Reply #66 |
85. i used to trust the cops too. about five years ago i started teaching my children not to. |
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 09:02 PM Response to Reply #66 |
92. I never trust cops or military personnel |
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tuckessee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
67. There's some really rich irony in this. n/t |
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Bryn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
68. Sounds like Cop was Trigger-happy |
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LibertyLover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
69. Unbelievably sad |
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Mabus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
70. Just speechless |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
71. The cops should be charged with murder. |
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fizzgig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 03:15 PM Response to Original message |
72. oh gods |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
73. OMG. Words fail. They shot him three times for a hockey stick? |
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 08:54 PM Response to Reply #73 |
89. They killed him |
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UndertheOcean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
74. Those "cops" should be charged with murder |
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TornadoTN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
77. These cops are a poor excuse - but lets be careful with our broad strokes |
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Supply Side Jesus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 11:22 PM Response to Reply #77 |
94. Oh why stop now.... |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 07:26 PM Response to Reply #94 |
107. It's systemic.. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
82. Wrong action by the cops and paramedics |
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OHDEM (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 04:36 PM Response to Original message |
83. I'm so sorry. |
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 08:40 PM Response to Original message |
88. Cops are acting like trigger happy assholes |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 09:01 PM Response to Original message |
91. I could see cops using a taser in this case, but not a gun. |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 11:04 PM Response to Original message |
93. The Sheriff said he felt the officer had no other choice in the situation. |
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Thegonagle (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 11:28 PM Response to Original message |
95. I'm so sorry to hear this. I can't imagine the horror of that scene. nt |
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ClayZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 11:34 PM Response to Original message |
96. That is just plain HORRIBLE! |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-01-08 11:40 PM Response to Original message |
97. I grieve for his parents, sadly I see more such stories as our soldiers return, shades of nam... |
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DeltaLitProf (459 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-02-08 12:31 AM Response to Original message |
98. If a cop had shot my son that way . . . |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-02-08 01:08 AM Response to Reply #98 |
105. What a horrific comment. DU can always be counted on to lay on the drama that way. n/t |
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meuniermr (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-02-08 12:41 AM Response to Original message |
99. This is what Grand Juries were invented for. |
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OakCliffDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-02-08 05:18 AM Response to Original message |
106. Kick |
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NC_Nurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
108. OMG, that's HORRIBLE! |
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CRF450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
109. I think you people are over-reacting a bit in anger against police officers |
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BlueIris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 10:35 PM Response to Original message |
117. That is just awful. Terribly sorry for her loss. nt |
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Sewsojm (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 11:00 PM Original message |
Trigger happy cop, I hope he's charged and convicted of murder! |
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Waiting For Everyman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 11:00 PM Response to Original message |
119. They are armed psychotics. |
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