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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 03:20 PM
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Whose fault is it?
It took 28 years of repuke and repuko-democrat-repuke-lite economic sabotage and theft to destroy this economy. Now, Congress fails in a week to solve the problem it took them a generation to create.

Whose fault is it?

Americans voted for these cretinous thieves and their stooges (or at least enough Americans did for the election fraud to become possible and plausible).

Whose fault is it?

Capitalists found every possible way, legal or otherwise, to game the system, rig the "government" and to steal money hand over fist.

Whose fault is it?

Americans wanted more, more, more--bigger SUVs, bigger flat-screen HDTVs, bigger McMansions, bigger shopping malls farther away from home, bigger vacations...

Whose fault is it?

With the possible exceptions of three or four members, Congress is owned totally by capitalist special interests. Both parties gave us the illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq. Both parties (although repukes much moreso than "democrats") gave us the greed and deregulation of our markets and the "free market" insanity that has destroyed this country.

Whose fault is it?

For 16 of the last 28 years, the Executive branch has been populated by an idiot du jour reading the script provided by the most venal, ruthless and amoral among us. The other 12 years we had a smart "free market" conservative repuke-lite reading his own disastrous script.

Whose fault is it?

I have nothing of substance left to lose, so I smugly opposed this most recent fear-driven extortion scam. Meanwhile, friends and neighbors are losing their savings.

Whose fault is it?
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 03:22 PM
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1. You probably won't get many respondants but that doesn't make you any less right.
Simple questions. Uncomfortable answers. Denial. Anger. Bargaining.

PB
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 03:23 PM
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2. not mine
I have my faults but this is not one of them
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 03:26 PM
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3. Recommended. nt
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 03:34 PM
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4. thanks.
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WhaTHellsgoingonhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 03:35 PM
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5. OMG! 17% of this is my fault...
...I suppose because I have nothing left to lose???

Waitaminute, what am I being blamed for again? The failure of the bill passing, because you believe it was the only solution?
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 03:44 PM
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6. I believe it was the latest chapter in an ongoing extortion racket.
I'm ecstatic that it failed.

But I'm sorry for my friends who did not listen when I told them their money was better off stuffed in their mattress. They are going through now what I already went through. Capitalism is a sucker's game unless you are a multi-billionaire. You should just immediately go to a casino and play nickel slots instead of "investing" in the "free market."

I don't think you are being blamed for anything, are you? I mean unless you ever voted for any repuke for any office. Then you deserve a humane execution.
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WhaTHellsgoingonhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 03:46 PM
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7. LOL, thanks for the clarification
peace out :)
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 03:47 PM
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8. Here you go.. Just a few excerpts..
available for free down load due to it's copyright expiration here..
http://www.soilandhealth.org/03sov/0303critic/0303socialcriticism.html

THE RICH AND THE SUPER-RICH A Study in the Power of Money Today

BY FERDINAND LUNDBERG

Lyle Stuart, Inc. • New York
Copyright 1968 by Ferdinand Lundberg.


Poverty Defined

For my part, I would say that anyone who does not own a fairly substantial amount of income-producing property or does not receive an earned income sufficiently large to make substantial regular savings or does not hold a well-paid securely tenured job is poor. He may be healthy, handsome and a delight to his friends--but he is poor. By this standard at least 70 per cent of Americans are certainly poor, although not all of these by any means are destitute or poverty-stricken. But, as was shown in the 1930's, Americans can become destitute overnight if deprived of their jobs, a strong support to mindless conformity. As a matter of fact, many persons in rather well-paid jobs, even executives, from time to time find themselves jobless owing to job discontinuance by reason of mergers, technical innovation or plant removal. Unable to get new jobs, they suddenly discover, to their amazement, that they are really poor, and they also discover by harsh experience to what specific conditions the word "poverty" refers. And even many of those who never lose their jobs often discover in medical and similar emergencies that they are as helpless as wandering beggars. They are, in fact, poor. In such eventualities the man of property is evidently in a different position. He is definitely not poor. And this is all I say.

************************
Lest such an observation be thought by provincials to give this exposition an unholy Marxist aura, let us in reverential solemnity quote such an austere Establishmentarian as Woodrow Wilson, who said (Franklin D. Roosevelt later concurring) in words as valid today as when first uttered:

"The masters of the government of the United States are the combined capitalists and manufacturers of the United States. It is written over every intimate page of the record of Congress, it is written all through the history of conferences at the White House, that the suggestions of economic policy in this country have come from one source, not from many sources. The benevolent guardians, the kind hearted trustees who have taken the troubles of government off our hands have become so conspicuous that almost anybody can write out a list of them. . .
Power not exercised by dilatory members of any functioning organization will of necessity be exercised by more diligent members, a universal rule applying to corporations, fraternal societies and labor unions as well as to government. To a very considerable extent, then, we see in all organizations, including the government of the United States, rule by default, by a self-selected oligarchy. If the citizens won't run the show the endless procession of Bobby Bakers, W. Judson Morhouses, Everett Dirksens and Lyndon B. Johnsons will.


It should be observed that, except for disaffected, out-of-step critics, there is no widespread rejection on the American scene of the ascendant notion of success. Not only does a broad public uncritically accept steamy monetary success as a proper life goal but it feels any questioning of this goal to be un-American, possibly traitorous or at least subversive and surely cowardly. Who but a coward would shrink from entering the glorious contest for success? The "unsuccessful" are regarded with contempt or pity, often even by themselves.
***********************8

Financial deficiencies are blamed on the man; family deficiencies are blamed on the woman. As comparatively few individual incomes, only 10 per cent until the more recent Johnsonian inflation, exceed $10,000 a year, according to the cold statistics, it is evident that most American males are big flops incomewise and are wide open to cutting remarks from their success-oriented, status-craving wives wrestling with child care and household chores.

All, then, as one could easily show by citing a variety of sources, is not happy sailing in the alcohol-sustained, drug-propped affluent belt of society, which in its own way is as badly churned up as the city slums and ghettos. Children in this situation, of course, suffer most of all.

In passing, it is difficult for a habitual reader of the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, the Christian Science Monitor and the Washington Post to avoid concluding that the United States shelters under the glorious Star Spangled Banner an extremely sick society, fundamentally made ill by the institutional implementation of a set of extremely destructive values.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 04:35 PM
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11. bingo.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 03:48 PM
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9. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHOSE FAULT IT IS.... we need to fix it.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 04:45 PM
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12. as soon as someone proposes a fix, you let us know, 'kay?
the pile of crap that failed today was not a fix--it was an emergency dose of heroin to a craving addict or a shot of bourbon to quell the DTs. Nothing about it proposed to fix anything. It was a blood transfusion to a system that is bleeding out. It needs surgery, not temporary help. All that money would have just ended up in yet another capitalist conman's wallet.

The system is broken, corrupt and based on absolutely nothing of substance. The high is over. It's time for the hangover. There is not enough hair of the dog to keep the headache away.

Do we need a supply-side "fix" like the one that just failed?

...or an absurdly FAR-supply-side "fix" like the house repukes want?

...because there is virtually NO support from either party--maybe the dozen or so Democrats who still exist--for a real fix--a fundamental change to the system.
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tama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 04:24 PM
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10. Fuck the blame games n/t
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 04:46 PM
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13. personally, I blame the fuck games
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tama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 05:09 PM
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14. As a physical male
and a spiritual a hermaphrodite, I enjoy fucking.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 05:17 PM
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15. the capitalists enjoy fucking too
we are all the fuckees

and money is the cum
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tama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 05:30 PM
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16. Methinks
humbly and without real evidence, that the capitalist are those that can't get laid if they don't make a lot of money and power first. And what does that tell about their trophy wives?
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tama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 05:30 PM
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17. Methinks
humbly and without real evidence, that the capitalist are those that can't get laid if they don't make a lot of money and power first. And what does that tell about their trophy wives?
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