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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:56 PM
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NOW the Dems can BLAME IT ALL ON THE REPUBS - IF THEY DO NOTHING! (more)
NOW the Dems can BLAME IT ALL ON THE REPUBS - IF THEY DO NOTHING!

1) It is a failure of Reaganomics/WTO/FTA/deregulation/neo-conservativism/objectivism/Ayn Rand/Greenspan.

2) Dems can say - we tried to pass a bill to fix it - Repubs rejected it.


3) Now we can suggest:

+ Put 700b into prosecuting those that got us into this mess,

+ siezing their assets,

+ and rebuilding America's infrastructure.

+ As well as starting the new economy of single-payer not-for-profit healthcare,

+ the new economy of unlimited, sustainable energy.

+ Ending the war, prosecuting the war profiteers and re-collecting the funds stolen by these profiteers.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 02:00 PM
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1. Yeah. That will be something
as some of us lose our jobs over this failure to pass this bill. I will try to find some comfort in that.

:(
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 02:14 PM
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4. No, you lost your job because of Reaganomics and deregulation.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 05:09 PM
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8. Great comfort.
I'll remember your kind words as this unfolds.
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 05:21 PM
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9. It's time to build a social democracy in our country.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 05:24 PM
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10. And what job will I have in the meantime
if I lose this one. I am not disagreeing with you. I just would like it to be a gradual change - not a sharp, throw several thousand people out of their jobs kind of change.
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 05:52 PM
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11. The problem is with these credit swaps - there's 500 trillion to 1 quadrillion
dollars worth of this worthless paper on the market.

It is my considered opinion (for whatever it's worth) that no matter how many 700 billion dollar bailouts we do, the piper will eventually have to be paid and we will go into a depression.

So, from my perspective, I would rather fund a new economic boom - like health-care, sustainable energy, and so-forth, than give this money to a bunch of CEO's who got us into this mess.

I'm not sure what you do, but if it's in the financial jopbs sector, I think there will be jobs available as we restructure the economy along the more sustainable European model.

I would also not be opposed to providing 700 billion to helping people who are already out of work or will soon be out of work, so that they are able to sustain their life structure.
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 02:20 PM
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7. But I don't want to be totally harsh. We can rebuild a new economy with a better future and
a guaranteed retirement, simply by following the example of the socialized democracies like Sweden, Germany, etc..
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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 02:02 PM
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2. I agree. Repub problem. Repub suggested solution. Dems tried to work with it; were more bipartisan..
... than Repubs (more Dems voted for it than Repubs by far). Failed.

Bush & McCain could NOT lead and could NOT solve their own problem. It wasn't due to Dems not trying. They took Bush's advice and worked in a bipartisan manner to come up with a plan all could go for.
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fla nocount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 02:06 PM
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3. That might have been the idea.
Republicans don't have a lock on being sly, wily and shape-shifting.
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 02:16 PM
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5. Well, if that's true, we may be in good shape...
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Corgigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 02:20 PM
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6. Republicans were too worried about keeping their
own jobs and our jobs be damned. This is too close to an election, critical thought is out the window.
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