Democratic Leadership should resign

[Stoic]

They just got skunked again by Bush. He couldn't deliver his own party so he got the Dem Leadership to do his dirty work for him on a bill that has virtually no support from regular Democratic voters. Pelosi and Hoyer, please resign. You are both a joke and embarrassment. And Barney Frank? Whatever admiration I once held for you is now completely gone.

Pathetic.

[sharp_stick]

1. Yup 5 weeks from an election

that would be just fucking brilliant, damn I'm surprised nobody picked you to be a highly paid pundit. You could go far on those thoughtful musings.

[leftofthedial]

2. competence is off the table

[DefenseLawyer]

3. Civil rights had "no support" in the South in the 60's

So obviously the Civil Rights Act was bad legislation.

[Stoic]

4. This is just sad.

[Stoic]

7. This is just sad.

A banana is yellow and a school bus is yellow, therefore a banana is a school bus.

[DefenseLawyer]

8. That's cute, but I don't see a difference.

You don't like this bill and you use the fact that the public doesn't like it to prove that it is bad. The public didn't want civil rights either, but you know what? The public was wrong. You may have a sound economic argument against this bailout, although I doubt it. However, the fact that the public fears it and opposes it doesn't prove anything. This is a republic, not a democracy.

[Stoic]

9. I guess it's really sad now

Just because a bill in Congress is opposed by someone doesn't make them equivalent in value or usefulness. Implying that my opposition to the bailout bill is the same as those who opposed civil rights is insulting and reprehensible. There may, in the future be some bill presented in Congress that actually protects the average citizen from the depredation of the financial market scammers but this wasn't the one. Read Glenn Greenwald for why this bill was really aweful.

[DefenseLawyer]

10. I am not equating motives

Only saying that the majority isn't always right. And sometimes opposing something for political reasons simply because it isn't popular with the majority doesn't turn out to be the right thing to do. But hey feel free to be outraged and insulted if you like. It's a free country. Your mob rule mentality has won the day, so we will see if your Fuck Wall Street plan will keep us our credit markets from collapsing. I mean assuming you think that a collapse of the banking sector is bad. With some of you people I am not sure.

[DAGDA56]

5. And the Repubilcan Leadership? Medals of Freedom all around,

right?

[Phred42]

6. They are partners in the Fraud

[K8-EEE]

11. Um, should Bush/Cheney resign?

WTF?

[daninthemoon]

12. as dumb as i think bushler is, somehow our leaders act like his

unwitting puppets. I'm disgusted by them all right now. You want to know what's really sad? I'm actually counting on my state's rightwing wackjob senators Inhoffe and Coburn to be the ones to stand up to this money grab.

[mmonk]

13. Yes, but not over this.

[bertman]

14. Stoic, I agree 100% that Pelosi, Reid, and company are an embarrassment, but now is not the time

to replace them. How about right after the election if Obama wins?

The smiling photo op with Paulson, Pelosi and Reid all hugging and falling all over themselves to congratulate each other for saving us was sickening.

I won't belabor this except to say to all of you who think this equates to voting against the civil rights bill should be ashamed for making that comparison. Bad Form. Please read DavidSwanson's post from earlier today about why the bailout may fail. There are numerous links to back up the argument that this bailout will be catastrophic for us citizens and just zany for the high rollers who are financing Pelosi and Reid and the other Dem leaders.

Of course, now that the trial balloon has been deflated we will get another not-quite-so-bad version and maybe another, until the masters get what they want. In the meantime, you can count on some serious Wall Street dementia to scare the serfs even more.

[LonelyLRLiberal]

15. Actually, the Pukes killed the bailout bill, not the Dems.

Whether or not you think the bailout is needed or the right way to go, the Pukes came out and said the "nay" vote was because they got pissed at Pelosi's remarks on the floor, not due to the merits of the bill. That makes them look worse than the Dems in the fiasco in the House today.

[yellowcanine]

16. Actually Pelosi and Hoyer delivered 60% of the Democrats. Bonerman failed.

Lay blame where it belongs. If anyone should resign it is Bonerman.