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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 03:24 PM
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I wonder how many folks have withdrawn all their cash in fear of Monday?
Edited on Sat Sep-27-08 03:49 PM by bigtree

I haven't seen ANYTHING that would cause me to take that action myself, but I wonder if that's occurred on a widespread enough level to have some sort of impact on the credit market. What would be the effect of such a run on the banks -- even a mild one?



edit: changed 'from ATMs" to just 'cash'
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 03:27 PM
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1. If they withdrew everything via their ATM then they didn't have much in the bank.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 03:29 PM
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4. right
It wouldn't be a catastrophe . . .would it?
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 05:11 PM
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27. They were already at that level before this happened.
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 03:36 PM
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14. Most banks have a 24 hour limit on how much you can withdraw from an ATM
Mine is $500 in a 24 hour period. For most account owners it would probably be more worth just actually going to the bank to get their money.

Some may not see another's account as having "much" but to that acccount owner it may be everything/alot.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 03:27 PM
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2. But why would they? The bailout's going through
Happy days are here again!

Yeah, actually, it'll be a while before that song makes a comeback.
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 03:30 PM
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8. I talked to my rep's office on Friday
and her aide said there was no legislation at this time. Has something changed?
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 03:28 PM
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3. That kind of panic is stupid and pointless
Assuming you are with an accredited bank, your money is guaranteed protected up to $100,000. If you have more than that in the bank, you are not going to pull it out via an ATM.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 03:30 PM
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5. right, they'd consider it's insured
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 03:33 PM
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12. People panic all the time. True the FDIC ensures deposits up to 100K, but...
if multiple banks fail, then the FDIC may have trouble covering everybody's withdrawal requests. Unfortunately, the FDIC does not have infinite cash to maintain bank liquidity. A series of large bank failures can hit the FDIC pretty hard, and several have already failed, so if a nationwide run on smaller banks were to begin, the FDIC would be outgunned. This is why it is important that people don't panic, but irresponsible speeches by people like Bush that scares people do not help at all.
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knowledgeispwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 03:30 PM
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6. I don't see why people would do that, and I hope it doesn't happen.
We don't need panic.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 03:32 PM
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9. I was thinking that it might be an impulse, a small defensive move
by folks who can't get a hold of any notion beyond banks are in trouble.
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 03:30 PM
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7. I pulled 5 grand
from the bank on Thurs as a just in case measure. Bank holidays have happened in the past. If nothing else it is two months of mortgage payments/or cash in hand available and I plan to put it back in when everything settles down.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 03:33 PM
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11. that's what I thought some folks might do
I wonder what the figures are on those types of withdrawals in the past few days?
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 05:14 PM
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28. I have read a lot about the great depression
I think probably my bottom line is I don't have much trust in Congress to get this right.I think they will come up with a half assed compromise that will ultimately fail.
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 03:32 PM
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10. i don't have much, but i don't trust the FDIC
you think they are gonna have any money left after all these dealings? not

i have cash, i cashed my paycheck, i left only $5 in my accounts... but that is almost normal, since rent suks me dry anyhow.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 03:34 PM
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13. lol
. . . the only thing I have in is what's left after my mortgage.
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Anywho6 Donating Member (458 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 03:36 PM
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15. Well, I cashed my $900 unemployment check Thursday...
...instead of depositing it as usual and withdrew the max for my partner from the ATM so we would have plenty of cash on hand. It was pretty disturbing when I walked into the Wells Fargo (where I have banked for the 10 years I have lived in CA) and there were several supervisor-type people milling around in the busy lobby and, as you walked in the door, you were asked by a person with a clipboard if you were cashing a check or depositing. It made my stomach tense and I definitely had a feeling of dread.

Afterward, I called my mom and asked her to go to the bank on Friday and take out at least a few hundred dollars just in case. She told me, "That's exactly what they're telling people NOT to do." I told her, "And you're still believing 'them'? Please just do it. If you don't need it within the next week or two, you can out it back." I explained to her that the concern is that people with millions are pulling their money out of banks and investing in treasuries because of the $100k FDIC limit.
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 03:41 PM
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17. $900?!
:wtf: Unemployment max in New York is $405!

:rofl:
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Anywho6 Donating Member (458 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 04:18 PM
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23. Yes, here it is $450 a week n/t
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 04:19 PM
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24. ohoh, I thought that was for a one week check.
:hi:
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 03:41 PM
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18. wow. so, a great deal of apprehension there
And the small amount of cash you have makes it easy to withdraw and handle.

Now, here's where I should tell you that that action is just what banks are hoping to avoid. Where's Jimmy Stewart?
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Anywho6 Donating Member (458 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 04:20 PM
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25. At this point, I don't give a rat's arse about what the BANKS are hoping
Time to take care of me and mine at this moment in time.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 04:26 PM
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26. of course, you're worried about your own first. that's natural.
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 03:37 PM
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16. Hah, what cash??
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 03:42 PM
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19. I frequent a small Mom and Pop meat market a few miles from my house...
The owner told me that regular customers have been coming in all week with wads of cash to purchase
quantities of meat to freeze.

Most of these are older folks, and several have told him they have cleared out their bank accounts.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 03:44 PM
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20. that matches my wife's account at the small market where she works
some of the older folks stocking up and matressing their cash
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 03:51 PM
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21. Diversifying?
A lot of these older folks had parents who went through the Great Depression and had the example of what happens when the banks fail. My folks went through it as young people with absolutely nothing. No jobs, but everything was very cheap. Bread was a nickel a loaf, but no one had a nickel.

My in-laws were children too. They tell stories of families in wagons pulling up to their farm asking for milk for babies. They allowed families camp on their land before "going on their way." People foraged for wild onions and boiled them for their dinner to feed those enormous families of uncontrolled numbers.

Experiences like that stay with you, and well should for the lessons we hope they teach.



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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 04:16 PM
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22. They still remember the Great Depression. When they spook, things are truly bad. nt
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 05:17 PM
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29. Fucking A. I wondered when this thread would appear.
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