Spoonamore predicts the outcome of the 2008 election: Remember this on Nov 5th!

[seemslikeadream]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lrFkRHrRDI

GO AND RECOMMEND THIS THREAD GET IT ON THE GREATEST PAGE
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=385&topic_id=199766&mesg_id=199766

[MadrasT]

1. Somebody needs to make sure the campaign is aware of this

Spoonamore is no joke.

[dkofos]

5. So they can pull a Kerry??

[Laelth]

39. What can the party do?

We have controlled congress for two years. There was no great push to institute national paper ballots for federal elections. It's too late now to secure the 2008 election.

-Laelth

[FirstLight]

2. who is this guy...?

and why should i believe him?

[seemslikeadream]

4. GOOGLE HIM AND YES YOU SHOULD BELIEVE HIM

If you don't know who he is by now shame on you

[FirstLight]

12. sorry, i think i have had my head in the sand about this

because I want to believe that it isn't possible again...


this is some upseting stuff. does anyone here
know how to get Obama's camp on this in a serious way? can they openly talk about rigging elections BEFORE it is done?

[seemslikeadream]

16. I'm sorry also I should not have spoken to you that way

I'm just so upset about this :hug:

[tbyg52]

52. God yes it's possible again. Even probable.

Check out the ER forum.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=203

Check out the groups linked in this post:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=508270&mesg_id=508270

[judasdisney]

49. seemslikeadream

Voting machines can be fixed by Neocons to ensure the opposition party holds the presidential office for the purposes of ensuring that the opposition party will take the fall for the timebomb.

The timebomb is the $1.14 quadrillion-dollar derivatives market bubble, which will collapse the U.S. dollar, spark capital flight from the U.S., send world trade into a hyperinflationary depression, and engulf the U.S. in social upheaval, which can also be blamed on the opposition party that has been guaranteed a seat as the head of the table.

Foresight and avoiding Rovian traps are important here. Spoonamore may or may not be a clueless pawn who is being used to whistleblow, or an psyops agent. Either way, what are the results of Spoonamore's whistleblowing if Obama is the "winner" of the election?

If Obama is the "winner", does Spoonamore's whistleblowing undermine Election Reform? Does Spoonamore's "cry wolf" story -- even if he's not crying wolf, or thinks he's not -- provide a curtain-of-ridicule protection for the fascists?

These are the days of the coup d'etat. The final planes-crashing-into-the-Capitol-Dome coup de grace may not happen for 7 years. But we are "in medias res" -- in the middle of the coup that began on 9/11. As such, if you continue to live in a NATO-allied country, you must consider everyone a spider. Maybe we can rescue someone here or there, but America will never come to terms with conspiracy, and so the cause of stopping this coup is lost.

The U.S. is not Turkey, for whom there is hope:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergenekon_network

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_state

[trueblue2007]

59. This guy is a life long republican

[dkofos]

3. The fix is in.

[liberalmuse]

6. This made my blood run cold.

Holy shit. I will remember this. 51.2%. We'll know whether or not we're a democracy on November 4th. Why in the fuck are we using these goddamned machines still?

[fascisthunter]

7. People Should Take This as a Warning of How Insecure Our System is

[Orrex]

8. Wiki refers to him as "a longtime Republican operative"

Is this true? Is it relevant?

[seemslikeadream]

10. Check out Velvet Revolution

http://www.velvetrevolution.us/

[ColbertWatcher]

9. So, until we get rid of electronic voting, every election will be stolen.

This one's been decided already.

[dixiegrrrrl]

11. Only 3 states count in this election.

Fla
Ohio
Penn.
Those are the electoral votes Obama needs.
I sure as hell hope he has a herd of lawyers and poll watchers ready.

[snappyturtle]

13. No offense here but what good do lawyers and poll watchers do

when the machines are manipulated? No one can see that.

I'm just hoping that the election is so-o over-whelming in Obama's favor that it's too much to steal.....is THIS a possibility? Does anyone know?

[dixiegrrrrl]

14. Because the election results have to be contested if necessary this time around

let me share a couple of good and probably known sites along this topic:


article on Stephen Spoonamore trying to alert Maryland officials to the problem...but getting bum's rush for his efforts:

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/35726#comment-207453

and then wander over to Bradblog.com, they have been on the story for years.

[lonestarnot]

15. There should not be one DUer on the board who is not volunteering to be a paid poll worker,

monitor, watcher, wtf ever!

[dixiegrrrrl]

17. Excellent point. Esp. in the 3 key states.

[MadrasT]

29. Won't make a difference.

We should still do it, but it won't stop them. We can't watch the bits & bytes flying over the intertubes. That's where the big fix takes place.

:yoiks:

PAPER BALLOTS. I've been in I.T. for 20 years, and he's dead nuts on. No paper ballots, no safety.

[snappyturtle]

36. That was my point....thank you for saying it better. nt

[Pastiche423]

51. Uh...

There are no polling places in Oregon, ergo all Oregonians are excused.

[juajen]

56. Dems could steal it just as easily as pugs. Why do you think they do

not make a big deal about this? I know, I know, how the hell can anyone know who really gets elected. I guess we don't. The joke is on us. We don't have real elections, just actors playing parts. They are paid a lot of money to act a part. My two cents worth, but, hey, what else makes sense?

[Snarkoleptic]

18. Why isn't election rigging/tampering considered and act of treason?

The punishment must fit the crime.

[Laelth]

40. It is treasonous, imho. It also seldom (if ever) gets prosecuted.

That's because the people who have the power to prosecute are the people who just won the election. Why would they ever question the vote? Why would they want to prosecute the people who stole the election for them?

-Laelth

[krispos42]

19. Well, that is unambiguous, isn't it?

Kick and rec!!!

[CTyankee]

20. I cannot believe that the Obama campaign is not aware of this.

After two of these elections, it's impossible for them not to. Impossible. They have to have some sort of defense/plan against it. I'm not saying the pubs won't try it but just that Obama's people are aware and have thought this through.

[babsbunny]

21. Then why bother voting?

I feel like giving up. Whipped Puppy syndrome you know.

[Swamp Rat]

22. Premier Election Solutions

;)

[LibertyorDeath]

25. Yeah I'm sure the Diebold Execs

Had a good laugh when they picked their new name. :hi:

[kster]

23. Never let the ballots leave the polling place until they are Hand Counted

Transparent Ballot Box, for 500 - 800 Paper Ballots, with Deposit Trap and Counter
Easy to use, sturdy and stackable. Lockable with two individual locks. Deposit trap is operated using a lever which is coupled with the counter. Can be safely stored in the reusable protective box.



K&R

[LibertyorDeath]

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His Man In the Middle (MIM)explanation is very easy to understand.
He seems like he's at his wits end trying to get people to wrap their minds around
this.

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[Gin]

26. they can't do a recount........they can only run a report.....

even with a printout....they can rig it to make the win big enough to not need a recount...

[LibertyorDeath]

61. Kick

[OKNancy]

27. Yeah, let's remember when you all are wrong, OK?

[Name removed]

28. Deleted sub-thread

Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Sebastian Doyle]

43. I see you have a "Tux the Penguin (Linux)" avatar

So then, you won't trust Microsoft to run your own home PC, but you will trust voting machines that use Microsoft software??

Care to explain the discrepancy?

[dana_b]

30. I watched all ten youtube clips

and am convinced. He speaks in easy to understand terms (for we non-techies) and is very matter of fact about it. I am terrified that he's right and sent all the clips to our friends at MSNBC (since they were the only ones covering the election fraud of 2004) and I would encourage anyone who believes that it could happen again to do the same.

This guy is a Cyber Security expert who has been the CEO of a few compnies and knows his stuff about technology. He also happens to be a conservative Repub who believes in Democracy. :wow: He states very matter of factly that Kerry did win in 2004.

[seemslikeadream]

31. What YOU Can Do To Prevent Another Stolen Election, alcibiades_mystery

http://www.trueblueliberal.com/2008/09/13/what-you-can-do-to-prevent-another-stolen-election/

From OpEdNews
By Mark Crispin Miller

There’s really only one way to prevent another stolen race, and that’s to focus national attention on the revelations of whistle-blower Stephen Spoonamore, who’s lately been revealing all we need to know about the Bush regime’s conspiracy to rig the vote from 2000 to the present. Spoonamore knows all the principals in this conspiracy, has been dealing with them for some time, and has a trove of emails, etc., to back up what he says.

There have been several other whistle-blowers on this front, but none is as compelling as he is–not just because he knows about the whole plot overall, but also because he is (a) a Republican, (b) an erstwhile member of the McCain campaign (he quit some months ago, when he discovered what they have planned) and (c) a prominent and well-respected expert on computer fraud. Detection of such fraud is, in fact, his specialty.

Spoonamore has named the man who was Karl Rove’s IT guru from 2000 until sometime last year: Mike Connell, a pro-life zealot who told Spoonamore that he had helped the Bush regime subvert elections “to save the babies.” (The actual nuts and bolts of the election fraud machinery are largely in the hands of Christianist fanatics, who have done whatever Karl Rove asked them to.) Connell’s fingerprints are thick on every dubious election of the last eight years–not just the presidential races, but Gov. Don Siegelman’s stolen re-election in Alabama in ‘02, Sen. Max Cleland’s in Georgia that same year, and many others.

Spoonamore’s testimony is the driving force behind a RICO lawsuit in Ohio. The lawyers handling it–Cliff Arnebeck and Bob Fitrakis–are terrific, and they have a game plan that provides us with some hope. They intend to order depositions of Karl Rove, Connell, Jack Abramoff, Bob Ney and all the other major perpetrators of Bush/Cheney’s (and McPalin’s) fraud. Since this is a civil case, those guys can’t weasel out of it (cf. Paula Jones); and in any case a number of them (including Connell, whom Rove has lately threatened with reprisals if he doesn’t take the rap) want to testify. Also, the judge happens to be highly principled, which is a godsend.

[seemslikeadream]

32. Voting Machines Can Never Be Trusted, Says GOP Computer Security Expert, alcibiades_mystery

http://www.alternet.org/democracy/94895/voting_machines_can_never_be_trusted,_says_gop_computer_security_expert/


Voting Machines Can Never Be Trusted, Says GOP Computer Security Expert


In an interview from October, 2006, that has only now seen the light of day, Stephen Spoonamore, one of the world's leading experts in cyber crime and a self-described "life-long Republican" destroys Diebold's already non-existent credibility.


Spoonamore lays it out for anyone to see and understand. If you care about America and it's survival as a democratic republic, you'll watch this interview.


The interviews are on YouTube and are being carried by a new site created by Velvet Revolution, RoveCyberGate.com.


Read below the fold for details and background.




There is a civil suit pending in Ohio, King Lincoln Bronzeville v. Blackwell. We covered a July 17 press conference about this case here. The issues in this case are complex, but in a nutshell, some Ohio voters filed a lawsuit about the 2004 election. These voters want to get the deposition of Mike Connell, a Republican IT expert who set up Ohio's computers for the 2004 election while simultaneously running the IT network for the Bush/Cheney 2004 campaign.


Connell's allegiance is clear; he is the co-owner of Connell Donatelli Inc., the company that was the registrant, administrator, and tech organizer of the website for the so-called Swiftboat Veterans for Truth. Connell has also been called "a high-tech Forrest Gump" who was "'at the scene of every crime' for numerous questionable elections since 2000."


The plaintiffs are working with an expert witness, Stephen Spoonamore. Spoonamore, according to Arnebeck, "works for credit card companies chasing data thieves, identity thieves around the globe, and also consults with government agencies including the Secret Service, the Pentagon, and the Federal Bureau of Investigation in criminal matters. really one of the top, and in fact the top private cop in the world on the subject of data security."


In this interview, "Spoon," as his friends call him, cuts through the lies and dissembling of Diebold and explains in language that anyone can understand how our elections have been stolen and how they are going to be stolen again. Even though this interview is almost two years old, the issues are still, unfortunately, germane to our elections.

[seemslikeadream]

33. Stephen Spoonamore Joins Duos Technologies as Chief Technology Officer, alcibiades_mystery

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2007_Oct_18/ai_n27410756

JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- Duos Technologies International, Inc. (duostech) announces the appointment of Stephen Spoonamore to the position of Chief Technology Officer. Mr. Spoonamore was a co-founder of Cybrinth, which was recently acquired by duostech.

Mr. Spoonamore is considered a leading theorist and innovator of systems involved with compression, digital image management, and remote electronic monitoring. Starting in the early 1990's, he worked with government agencies and elements of the U.S. Armed Forces to develop solutions that address threat risks in cyber security. Mr. Spoonamore also serves as a member of the NEEEC/ANSI task force to determine standards and needs for E-Authentication of Identity, and the ComCARE Alliance task force to examine the security and development needs of the EPAD All-Hazards National Alert System.

As an entrepreneur, he founded or co-founded eleven previous companies, the best known of which was Creative Production Resources Group (sold in 2002). Under his leadership, the firm was awarded two technical Emmy Awards (for the Nagano Olympics Studios and Oprah Winfrey Studios). He has served on several public sector investigation boards examining disaster after-actions and has received awards for his contributions to the public sector, including a Civilian Citation (1995) for outstanding contributions to the U.S. Department of Defense.

He has served on delegations and task forces for the United Nations, United Nations Development Programme, and U.S. Army and has been called to testify before the U.S. Congress as an expert in the areas of secure communications and emergency communications systems. He is well respected for his ability to translate complex technical issues into terms understandable to all.

"Mr. Spoonamore's profound understanding of data security issues, especially Homeland Security threats to the global community, will be an invaluable resource for duostech, helping us to define data component project strategies with unparalleled depth and accuracy," said Gianni B. Arcaini, Chairman and CEO.

[seemslikeadream]

34. Spoonamore Confronts Maryland Board of Elections alcibiades_mystery

http://discuss.epluribusmedia.net/taxonomy/term/4297


Stephen Spoonamore
Newly Released Video: Spoonamore Confronts Maryland Board of Elections Over SAIC Report


The following video was posted on the Velvet Revolution site on 27 August 2008.

It documents Stephen Spoonamore's confrontation of the Maryland Board of Elections with an unredacted version of the "Risk Assessment Report" of Diebold's electronic voting systems as commissioned by the state of Maryland from the Scientific Applications International Corporation (SAIC) in 2003." as reported on Brad Blog 11/5/06. Those who commissioned the report were provided only a 40 page redact and limited to 'borrowing' a copy of the full 200 page document, Diebold considered it such sensitive material.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8EeaFyY4y4

"Computer cyber security expert Stephen Spoonamore got a copy of the 197-page unredacted report which listed hundreds of serious problems, and he released that report to us.

Well, Spoonamore did more than that – he took the report to the Maryland Board of Elections and confronted them with it at a public meeting. He told them that if he were handed such a report in the private sector, he would "shut down the system and open a fraud investigation." The elections officials expressed shock that they had not ever seen the same unredacted report. And when the meeting was over, Spoonamore, with a concealed microphone, personally confronted the officials. And what did one of them say to him –that him having the report was "a security risk." Following the confrontation, Spoonamore was contacted by law enforcement officials who demanded to know how he got the report. We can say now that the report came from a high official in the Executive Branch who wanted to expose Diebold."

[JFN1]

35. We are so screwed.

The MSM can say stuff like, "Well, race played a hidden factor and when people got into the booth, they just couldn't vote for Obama."

I wish I hadn't watched this...

[Stevepol]

37. Highest conceivable recommendation.

[readmoreoften]

38. The loss in 2006 may have been the smartest or luckiest thing that ever happened to the Reps

I imagine it's a lot easier to rig a presidential election than all the congressional races of 50 states. And all they have to do is keep pointing to 2006 to show how honest the system is.

It's not really voting, it's may the best hackers win.

[Parker CA]

41. How many of the states use these machines?

I vote absentee with a paper ballot. The voting locations around my house use paper ballots.

Are there enough electronic voting locations to swing this one this time? Even with all of the GOTV efforts Obama/Biden have been pushing?

[bertman]

54. I suspect that they got caught a bit off guard, readmoreoften. But, really what has it cost them?

Not a damn thing. The Pelosi-Reid congress has kowtowed to BushCo every fucking time. But you're right that it does give them an alibi.

[rucky]

42. So do these MIMs happen at the time of voting, or when the votes are sent out?

What would poll watchers be looking for?

[brettdale]

44. kick

kick

[seemslikeadream]

45. Reason that conspiracy theories are deemed implausible is that they require so much silent loyalty

http://www.opednews.com/articles/Conspiracy-Theorist-by-Josh-Mitteldorf-080831-377.html
The reason that conspiracy theories – any conspiracy theories – are deemed implausible on their face is that they require so much silent loyalty to pull off. “And why hasn’t someone – anyone – come forward to tell this story? Do you mean to tell me there isn’t one honest man close enough to the inside of this thing – no one who would be willing to go public and blow this thing to pieces?”

For four years now, election theft has been in the backwaters of American journalism, while the mainstream press has steered clear of the issue. Same old conspiracy theorists fussin’ and bellyachin’. Neither have the Democratic victims of this fraud been willing to speak out. Al Gore (FL 2000), Max Cleland (GA 2002), and John Kerry (Ohio 2004) have not merely been silent on the issue, they have actively worked to discredit the truth that elections were stolen from them.


Now it really gets weird. Two of Karl Rove’s computer experts have come forward with details about how it was done. Stephen Spoonamore and Michael Connell are lifelong Republicans, and insiders in campaigns going back to George Bush, Sr in 1988.

Here’s a segment from a transcript of Mark Crispin Miller’s recent interview on the Thom Hartmann show:

: Spoonamore...a lifelong Republican and erstwhile member of the McCain campaign until he discovered so much about the Republicans’ election fraud that he resigned, and a prominent expert on computer crime. Now two years ago, Thom, this guy gave a long interview to ... the news division of one of the three major networks. It's up online, you know, people can get it at my blog.... It's stunning... This guy has come out and said, and he has documentary evidence to prove this,... that the Bush team has been stealing elections since and including 2000. Spoonamore has named Karl Rove's IT guy...Mike Connell, a fervent Catholic and fanatical pro-lifer who told Spoon that he has helped the Republicans to steal elections to save the babies. I’m not making this up. Whenever Karl Rove wanted something done, he would say to Connell ‘just make it happen’, and this kind of thing has included Florida in 2000, Ohio in 2004, also Don Siegelman’s stolen re-election in Alabama in 2002. Evidence suggests he was involved in the theft of Max Cleland's re-election in Georgia in 2002.

[seemslikeadream]

46. Stephen Spoonamore Joins Duos Technologies as Chief Technology Officer

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2007_Oct_18/ai_n27410756


JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- Duos Technologies International, Inc. (duostech) announces the appointment of Stephen Spoonamore to the position of Chief Technology Officer. Mr. Spoonamore was a co-founder of Cybrinth, which was recently acquired by duostech.

Mr. Spoonamore is considered a leading theorist and innovator of systems involved with compression, digital image management, and remote electronic monitoring. Starting in the early 1990's, he worked with government agencies and elements of the U.S. Armed Forces to develop solutions that address threat risks in cyber security. Mr. Spoonamore also serves as a member of the NEEEC/ANSI task force to determine standards and needs for E-Authentication of Identity, and the ComCARE Alliance task force to examine the security and development needs of the EPAD All-Hazards National Alert System.


As an entrepreneur, he founded or co-founded eleven previous companies, the best known of which was Creative Production Resources Group (sold in 2002). Under his leadership, the firm was awarded two technical Emmy Awards (for the Nagano Olympics Studios and Oprah Winfrey Studios). He has served on several public sector investigation boards examining disaster after-actions and has received awards for his contributions to the public sector, including a Civilian Citation (1995) for outstanding contributions to the U.S. Department of Defense.

He has served on delegations and task forces for the United Nations, United Nations Development Programme, and U.S. Army and has been called to testify before the U.S. Congress as an expert in the areas of secure communications and emergency communications systems. He is well respected for his ability to translate complex technical issues into terms understandable to all.

"Mr. Spoonamore's profound understanding of data security issues, especially Homeland Security threats to the global community, will be an invaluable resource for duostech, helping us to define data component project strategies with unparalleled depth and accuracy," said Gianni B. Arcaini, Chairman and CEO.

Duos Technologies Inc., headquartered in Jacksonville, Florida, provides a broad range of sophisticated technology solutions with an emphasis on Homeland Security. Its systems are based on its proprietary object detection and behavioral analysis software, managed by the company's proprietary multi-layer control platform, allowing seamless integration of a myriad of sensing technologies into a unified command and control interface. Its comprehensive automated systems also play a meaningful role in the transportation, petrochemical, and healthcare industries. Duos Technologies International, Inc., is its global arm.

[seemslikeadream]

47. Spoonamore Confronts Maryland Board of Elections Over SAIC Report

http://discuss.epluribusmedia.net/taxonomy/term/4297

Stephen Spoonamore
Newly Released Video: Spoonamore Confronts Maryland Board of Elections Over SAIC Report

The following video was posted on the Velvet Revolution site on 27 August 2008.

It documents Stephen Spoonamore's confrontation of the Maryland Board of Elections with an unredacted version of the "Risk Assessment Report" of Diebold's electronic voting systems as commissioned by the state of Maryland from the Scientific Applications International Corporation (SAIC) in 2003." as reported on Brad Blog 11/5/06. Those who commissioned the report were provided only a 40 page redact and limited to 'borrowing' a copy of the full 200 page document, Diebold considered it such sensitive material.

[blaze]

48. kick n/t

[MadrasT]

50. PA is ripe for election fraud

This was written right before the PA primaries

PA primary will be unauditable; GOP blocks e-voting reform

By Jon Stokes | Published: April 21, 2008 - 02:30PM CT

On the eve of tomorrow's hotly contested and relatively close Democratic presidential primary in Pennsylvania, a number of voting activists are sounding the alarm one last time about the state's election systems. Over 85 percent of PA voters will vote on paperless touchscreen machines that are hackable, failure-prone, and fundamentally unauditable.

The ever-vigilant Bradblog has a roundup of which models will be used in tomorrow's contest, and it's not pretty:

* Two PA counties, one of which, Montgomery, is the state's most populous, will use the same Sequoia AVC Edge touchscreens that are now the subject of an investigation in New Jersey because of their spectacular failure in that state's recent primaries.
* Sixteen counties will use the Diebold Accuvote TS touchscreen model. Regular Ars readers will recall that my 2006 article, "How to steal an election by hacking the vote," described in some detail how to steal an election using this machine. (I hope that nobody from PA decides that it would be a good idea to print copies of the free PDF of this how-to article to bring to the polls with them as a form of protest, because you would probably get in trouble. So don't do that.)
* 51 counties will vote on the infamous iVotronic touchscreen from ES&S. This is the same model that brought us the Florida 13 controversy that ultimately resulted in Florida scrapping touchscreens altogether.

So as is typical this cycle, the people of PA will vote tomorrow in an election that is impossible to audit, one in which the government cannot meet its burden of proof of election integrity.

-more at link-

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080421-pa-primary-will-be-unauditable-gop-blocks-e-voting-reform.html

Doesn't give me warm fuzzies about election day in Pennsylvania. "An election that is impossible to audit."

Who the FUCK ever approved that system? :grr:

[orleans]

53. thanks for posting this.

i know! it drives me fucking crazy thinking about it! k&r.

on edit: note my sig line.

[Kablooie]

55. If McCain barely squeezes out enough votes to win I don't think it will go softly this time.

People are not going to just say, "oh damn. Maybe they cheated but oh well".

There is enough fire under the Obama supporters to blow the whole country up this time and I will bet that it will blow.

Welcome to Civil War II

[Phred42]

58. That's why they are illegally brining in a Combat Brigade

Oct 1

and why Blackwater has operational compounds outside of some major Cities. (we have one just outside of Chicago)

They are expecting and even COUNTING on an uprising

[Phred42]

57. The ART of the Con is to win by as LITTLE as necessary.

I have been saying this since 2000 - so once again

The ART of the Con is to win by as LITTLE as necessary.

[volstork]

60. Keep this kicked!

IT IS CRUCIAL!

[chatnoir]

62. K&R

This is like a bad dream all over again...

[AzDar]

63. K & R ...

:kick: