Obama -Nice Guy--MCcan't -Presidential

[Captain Lance Bass]

needsto come out swingin next time or forget it

[ColbertWatcher]

1. Admiral McCombover has a lot to lose next time. n/t

[SCRUBDASHRUB]

2. I knew the fucking pundits would do this.

McSame was a rambling mess, and yet, oh he was great? What??

[deutsey]

7. They did this after the 2000 debates too.

[silverojo]

22. McCain wasn't "great"

Obama just bombed. That's why McCain's utter mediocrity came off as seeming better.

[Mist]

3. That's just Buchanan's opinion. I'd rather let McSame lose it, and Obama

stay calm. Let there be a contrast, and McGrumpy can be the angry one.

[McCCain4retirment]

6. When i hear presidential

McCain usually doesn't come in mind

[Betty]

4. Grampa seemed like a grumpy old man

I didn't sense anything presidential about the asshole.

[Tangerine LaBamba]

5. I'm heartbroken

What was wrong with Obama? Pointing out that "John is right"? In a debate?

Why, when McPOW pulled that crap about how much he loves veterans, didn't Obama go after him about his voting record on veterans' benefits - how McPOW always voted against them?

I'm so disappointed, I could cry.

[Mari333]

8. I was also hoping for that

why didnt obama call mccain out on his horrible voting record against veterans benefits?? that just pissed me off. or how badly our troops are suffering due to bush policies that mccain was 100 percent behind? obama needs to brush up on how mccain has betrayed the troops.

[BunkerHill24]

9. I agree...."John is Right" was confusing and out of place..n/t

[Captain Lance Bass]

15. I hear ya

tryin to tell the kool aid drinkers here what we saw but they won't listen

Obama needs to get his ass in gear like yesterday and start practicing for the next debate using Biden as Mccain

[jayfish]

21. It Called Pragmatism...

or altruism. It's a great quality for a President to have. It says "yeah he's right about a couple of things, other than that he's a lying moran".

Jay

[Warren Stupidity]

10. Actually Obama was too presidential

and not contentious enough. Gramps held his own but was snarly rude repetitive and mean.

[bertman]

11. When you're debating to become the next President of the United States and your opponent says you

don't know what you're talking about and you laugh and shake your head you are not showing that you can be a hardass when negotiating with the bad guys.

Obama was the intellectual and McAnus was the fighter. Obama let McAnus change the tone of the debate CONSTANTLY. And all Obama did was smile and challenge him politely.

All the folks who think Obama should not show any hint of anger when he is called "naive" and told he doesn't know what he's talking about are wrong wrong wrong. It made him look weak tonight.

I hope Barack learned some BIG lessons tonight.

Tangerine, I agree with you wholeheartedly.

[Captain Lance Bass]

16. "Obama was the intellectual and McAnus was the fighter"

and joe sixpack america has a history of NOT voting for intellectuals

[misanthrope]

27. You're dead on!!!**nm

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[vanlassie]

12. Naw....Obama was a leader. McCain was a blowhard.

[theothersnippywshrub]

13. You could not be more wrong.

This election has been very close in the polls despite the fact that a vast majority of voters are disgusted by the results of the last eight years of republican rule. The reason it has been so close is that millions of voters have had doubts about whether Obama is capable of being an adequate (not even good, just adequate) president. Tonight Obama definitely showed that he is capable of being president, even if most people think McCain "won" the debate. Obama only needs to convince 3 or 4 million of those voters and he wins easily. He did that tonight.

[donco6]

14. I disagree.

I think Obama came off completely presidential, not weak in any topic, not snarky toward McCain as McCain was toward him, which turns people off quite a lot (think Gore and the sighs in Bush/Gore).

I think people are looking at this all wrong. They're used to debates being "won" or "lost" because of Bush and his inability to string two sentences together - the debates became this "winner/loser" thing because everyone wanted to know if Bush imploded or not. It's a different day now - McCain and Obama are not stupid. They're not going to make horrendous gaffes. The question now is who do you agree with? That's what the new view should be. Who made their point most clearly and convinced you of their position?

Given that McCain could only begin his sentences with snarky comments about Obama, it's not a surprise that Obama is carrying this debate in the MSNBC scientific poll.

[Mind_your_head]

20. You're probably on the correct path here, but forgive us if it

takes awhile for the last eight years of "taint" to rub off of our collective very weary brains.

(and if we here at DU are often counted among 'first adapters', think how long it's going to take for the "taint" to rub off of the general populace!) The Obama advisors should consider all of these things before the next scheduled debate, imo.

[jayfish]

17. What The Hell Is Going On Around Here?

You gotta get to 1000 posts before you out yourself. Seeseh!

Jay

[vanderBeth]

18. I haven't heard anybody say McCain was presidential.

What are you watching? Fox?

[johnfunk]

19. McCan't: Presidential? No. Petty and contemptuous? Yes.

McCan't reminded me of a cross between Abe Simpson and Mahmoud Ahmedinejad tonight.

Obama not only remained on an even keel but answered every McCain attack, often with withering counterpoint.

McCan't was supposed to win this debate handily. Didn't even come close.

[cali]

23. bwahahaha. too bad for you that the vast majority of the pundits and the public

thought just the opposite. live with it, dear.

[Captain Lance Bass]

25. no im tired of livin with losing nominees

Gore , Kerry,,,,they won the debates as well with the base....

obama needs to step it up or

we will be crying come Nov 5th

[MrToby]

24. If I Have One Criticism of Obama Tonight,

it would be the number of times he said, "John is right" or some variation there of.

It just provides grist for the RNC puke machine. They are already splicing them all together for an ad and to put out on YouTube.

On content, I think Obama did great except perhaps on "the surge" issue. He really needs to point out the fact that the tribal leaders turning on the insurgency has been as big or bigger factor in the turn around in Iraq.

[MrToby]

26. IT DIDN"T TAKE THEM LONG

Here is the first attack ad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ec3aC8ZJZTc

[HughMoran]

30. Thanks FREEPER

But no thanks.

[HughMoran]

29. lol - you freeper would be repeating the right-wing "John is right" talking points

:rofl:

As predictable as watching paint dry.

[fishwax]

28. McCain looked anything but presidential

he looked condescending, testy, and unfocused. His condescension will be especially unappealing to independent/undecided voters.