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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 09:39 PM
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Poll question: Who do you think won the debate?
I say Obama hands down.

And you?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 09:40 PM
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1. But we are biased
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 09:44 PM
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4. I'm proudly biased
And why shouldn't I be?
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 09:41 PM
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2. to be honest
even if i didn't think he won, i'd say he won. in fact if there are polls anywhere else on the internets, i am prepared to go say he won whether or not he won. but i'm sure he won. at least for those of us who despise bullshit.
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kmdemqueen Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 09:41 PM
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3. war
Mccain is a war junkie
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Tutankhamun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 09:46 PM
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5. Shocking quote from Pat Buchannan: "John McCain clearly won the debate"
Is the guy really that warped or is he just full of shit?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 09:48 PM
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11. RNC Partisan
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Left Brain Donating Member (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 09:50 PM
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13. The latter.
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 09:50 PM
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14. Warped and FOS
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 09:46 PM
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6. Obama... and this was the debate that McCain should have won.
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olshak Donating Member (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 09:47 PM
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10. Agree with this point...
Obama won on points, not by Knockout
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 09:49 PM
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12. TKO goes to Obama..... The Spain comment put McCain bleeding on the mat.
And Obama knocked him back down with the 'bomb bomb bomb Iran' comment.

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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 09:47 PM
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7. I think it will sway very few people. IOW tie.
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LatteLibertine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 09:47 PM
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8. Well
Edited on Fri Sep-26-08 09:49 PM by LatteLibertine
Senator McCain spent the debate looking at and speaking to the moderator. He looked timid and punked. Senator Obama directly addressed McCain many times and looked at him when answering and while McCain was speaking. McCain came off as weak. I have little faith in him standing up to folks that need to be opposed if he can't even do it well against the fellow he is running against in a polite debate.

I also think Obama had more measured and thoughtful responses. He gave Senator McCain his due when they agreed on issues and gave him proper credit when appropriate. That made him seem more reasonable and intelligent.

Senator Obama won on more levels that one.

Obama 08.
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 09:47 PM
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9. Hehe, kinda a biased audience, but I think Obama won
and the CNN live poll indicated he did as well.
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Rudyabdul Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 09:50 PM
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15. Obama did fine
but he REALLY needs to stop being so generous to McCain by saying that he agrees with McCain on many of his points. He also needs to call out on McCain when he calls him naive.

I hope he gets better in the next 2 debates.
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Naturyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 09:53 PM
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16. I think McCain did very well.
I think he lied repeatedly, misled multiple times, and trotted out his usual recycled shit - but he did so with a lot of the condescending rudeness Middle America mistakes for leadership.

Obama missed a lot of chances to hit back hard and throw 8 years of Repuke rule in McSame's face.

Go ahead and flame me, but I think our best debates are ahead of us. This one... not so good.
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olshak Donating Member (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 12:20 AM
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24. This WAS a good debate for Obama...
But your analysis is spot on. I think he will get better as we move forward.
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ThePowerofWill Donating Member (462 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 09:57 PM
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17. I think Obama won....but
MSNBC is telling me McCain won, so i must be wrong. :eyes:
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 09:59 PM
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18. I'll call it a draw for a couple of reasons
First, Gramps didn't step on his tongue or blow a fit. All he did was lie.

Second, Obama laid out his programs but he failed to call Gramps on obvious lies like who started the war against Georgia. He needed to call him on that one.

However, to low information voters (yes, I've been lurking at Yahoo and FR, bad lefty), Gramps came off as old, testy and tired, while Obama was rested and cool as a cucumber. That's the sort of thing that might give Obama a small edge among focus groups of salt of the earth types, you know, morons.

I'll call this one a draw, though.
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Tutankhamun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:03 PM
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19. Obama's calm, measured demeanor will help him with the neo-racists.
Of course the racist vote is lost, but the neo-racists, the "I don't know about Obama" crowd saw him in a good light. The "I'm kinda nervous about that guy" people, the "I don't know if I want to vote for a guy named Barack Obama" voters saw a wonderful contrast between the two candidates demeanors.
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President Decider Donating Member (646 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:05 PM
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20. Here's the truth .... there was no clear winner. Both candidates pandered to their base tonight ...

and so the truth shall set you free ...
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fla nocount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:15 PM
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21. I bought a six pack and re-named myself Joe tonight.
McCain won tonight, hands down.

There is no Al Kyda.

been Forgotten is dead.

Iran has no plans for world domination.

Russia is strong enough to protect it's borders...no more.

BO missed every opportunity and sounded like a Geritol ad. I'm suspicious about his fascination with Conoco's pipeline through Afghanistan too.









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Naturyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:22 PM
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22. Ok, that's a bit much
It wasn't THAT bad.

But McSame did win, unfortunately. From the perspective of Middle America he set the tone, landed the hardest hits, and got away with it. Obama didn't bring the fight. Why Obama didn't *repeatedly* slap McSame with the fact that his own Bushco party created all these messes, I'll never know.
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fla nocount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:43 PM
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23. Maybe the BushCo party is his party too.
I saw nothing "progressive" tonight. Nothing, might as will have been Kerry, should have been Kerry. Where the hell does he get his advice from and how does he define "choice?" It might be that the only choice we have in this election is between McSame's.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 12:25 AM
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25. mccain is the one who will see his polling numbers improve from it.
if that's how you want to gauge who won.
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