The insanity thread: A DU collaborative investigation

[bobthedrummer]

There's a real upsurge in discussion of how crazy everything is, so let this be a dumping ground for crazy talk in the context of a DU member investigation.

I'll link to a few crazy articles. The first one is to an article written by Jeanne Lenzer that was published by the British Medical Journal/BMJ June 19, 2004-in it I learned about the Texas Medication Algorithm Project/TMAP which was sponsored by then Texas Governor George Walker Bush in 1995, and learned many other crazy things.

Btw, the current Executive Director of the Texas branch of the American Psychiatric Association/APA is John Bush. The BMJ article is below.

"Bush plans to screen whole US population for mental illness" (Jeanne Lenzer BMJ 6-19-2004)
http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/328/7454/1458

Psychiatrists are employed in many unethical/criminal black budget funded operations including torture, non consensual human experimentation, psychological operations and God knows what else.

The profession has come under fire through litigation and the American Psychiatric Association has a liability insurance program for its members called The Psychiatrists Program. Here's what seems crazy to me, the two insurers for liability (National Union Fire Insurance & Lexington Insurance Co) are both AIG subsidiaries.

The Psychiatrists Program page from APA
http://www.psychprogram.com/

AIG is part of the black budget network and was founded by intelligence agency connected people as throughly documented by investigative journalist Lucy Komisar in an article about AIG published by Corp Watch.org November 17, 2004- that article is linked below.

"Cooking the Insurance Books" by Lucy Komisar
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=11657aig

Psychiatrists like Louis Jolyon West, Sidney Gottlieb and many others were assets of the US intelligence community as well as the many professional organizations and institutions that accepted "research projects" for a lot of crazy stuff from the black budget network. The profession and neurosciences are a huge part of George Walker Bush's Global War On Terror.

That's enough craziness for this OP, I'm looking forward to your contributions to this insanity thread.

[dipsydoodle]

1. I'll keep it brief

Sarah Palin.

[bobthedrummer]

10. Richard Bruce Cheney.

"Dick Cheney's Psychology/Part 2: The 'Attendant Lord' " by John Briggs PhD (repost from 5-27-2008 The Public Record)
http://www.pubrecord.org/component/content/71.html?task=view

[soulcore]

2. Brigade homeland tours start Oct. 1

3rd Infantry’s 1st BCT trains for a new dwell-time mission. Helping ‘people at home’ may become a permanent part of the active Army
By Gina Cavallaro - Staff writer
Posted : Monday Sep 8, 2008 6:15:06 EDT

The 3rd Infantry Division’s 1st Brigade Combat Team has spent 35 of the last 60 months in Iraq patrolling in full battle rattle, helping restore essential services and escorting supply convoys.

Now they’re training for the same mission — with a twist — at home.

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/09/army_homeland_090708w/

[Submariner]

3. Can those of us from the secret DU Forum: "Twisted and certifiably batshit crazy DU'ers"

Play too?

[OneGrassRoot]

16. psssst......

where is this elusive secret forum? May I play there, too?

I'm known to be the batshit-crazy, conspiracy theory lady of late.

;)

[Mind_your_head]

4. Two things/comments

1) "Bush plans to screen whole US population for mental illness" The shrub should begin with himself, to set an 'example' - remember, checking for mental illness should begin at home, shrubby - AND the shrub would be a 'target rich' environment of mental illness, proving the initiative a huge success!

2) I USED to know a psychologist who was working on the CAPPS II project. He always smiled like a "Cheshire Cat" when he talked about what a 'great' job that was for him - (i.e., he was racking in the dough for what he probably knew, but didn't care as long as he was racking in the dough, was a stupid project.)

[conscious evolution]

5. CAPPS II ?

Tell us about this one if you would.Sounds interesting in a frightful sort of way.

[Mind_your_head]

6. CAPPS II - there's PLENTY more if you are capable of doing ANY SORT OF SEARCH

http://w2.eff.org/Privacy/cappsii/

http://www.wired.com/politics/security/news/2004/07/64240

http://www.aclu.org/safefree/general/16769leg20030825.html

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x683629

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4066236&mesg_id=4080216

http://www.takebackthemedia.com/newspro/arc76.html (third article down)

[bobthedrummer]

12. As real as your local neighborhood watch group, politicized law enforcement "ride alongs" and video

cams-all that formerly derided "lunatic/paranoid/tinfoil" stuff is everywhere in HOMELAND (tm).

Just ask Michael Chertoff...

[bobthedrummer]

7. Psychologists also have a professional organization the American Psychological Association/APA

American Psychological Association/APA.
http://www.apa.org/

Some of these professionals are really crazy, some of them are criminals-just like in every profession there can be found renegades--but it's hard to find a profession with such influential rebels like Timothy Leary, John Mack, John Gittinger, Ernst Rudin, Jose DelGado, Sid Gottlieb, Louis "Jolly" West, Michael Aquino, Ewen Cameron and many others.


It's crazy to neglect US military and their families that need help as a result of their service-it's a crime to experiment on them, or any other American citizen, without informed consent--yet some psychiatrists and psychologists make a career of it along with pharmaceutical companies.

It's nuts.

"The War Inside: The Meltdown in the Military's Mental Healthcare System" by Scott Horton (6-17-2007 Harpers)
http://www.harpers.org/archive/2007/06/hbc-90000289

"Walter Reed Ex-Patient, Wife, Speak Out on Poor Conditions at Army's Top Medical Facility" (2-22-2007 Democracy Now!)
http://www.democracynow.org/2007/2/22/walter_reed_ex_patient_wife_speak

Then there are psychological operations (PSYOPS), which are still illegal in the US, but, as former SecDef Rumsfeld admitted without explanation in February 2004 somehow PSYOPS that had targeted foreign populations had migrated to the US.

PSYOPS have always been a strategic part of war-President Truman authorized a Psychological Strategy Board in 1951 as part of the Cold War.

Psychological Strategy Board (Source Watch entry)
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Psychological_Strategy_Board

There's so much insanity and crazy stuff going on today, post your own insanity related topics in this collaborative DU thread.

[Swamp Rat]

8. Geauxbama!!!!!

:D

[bobthedrummer]

9. He's got my vote Swamp Rat-glad to see you again.

These hurricanes, floods, wildfires, and fascism along with everything else can try our minds.

I know you're a brother musician so you've seen some insanity (as we all have)-but imagine stuff like psychic spies (at taxpayer expense for at least 20 years) or programming people to do things like assassination (at taxpayer expense).

I took a lot of psychology courses in college and some of the professors talked openly about these professional "aberrations".

Actually some useful things came out of the fringes-like John Gittinger's Personality Assessment System/PAS. John Marks wrote about this in Chapter 10 of "The Search for the Manchurian Candidate"

"The Gittinger Assessment System" (Drug Library.org)
http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/LSD/marks10.htm

Yep, the power of persuasion can get really insane.

Power of Persuasion (Source Watch entry)
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Power_of_persuasion

:hi:

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

11. The Carlyle Group has/had a stake in AIG.

[bobthedrummer]

13. That's not crazy enough OmmmSweetOmmm-but it is black budget related.

What's really nutty-paradoxical-yet true, that's where I'm at. I don't mean to offend members that are into parapsychology, telepathy and para militarized spirituality cults, but when you can get top level national security classifications for over 20 years and then set-up a high tech business based on STARGATE related stuff-wow--that is where a lot of black budget $$$ went.

This one's for you, lady-the SAIC psychic spying "private" enterprise of that NUTTY PROFESSOR, Edwin C. May PhD
http://www.lfr.org/LFR/csl/

[lonestarnot]

25. black budget related.

What is that? black budget?

[bobthedrummer]

38. The definition has expanded exponentially since this Wired.com article was posted

but it's a good primer.

Today it's been "privatized", including many world central banks.

"Exposing the Black Budget" by Phil Patton (Wired.com)
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/3.11/patton_pr.html

[bobthedrummer]

14. "Psychological war" (entry from a report by Project Censored Dec.2006)

(note the mention of the Committee on the Present Danger)
http://www.mindjustice.org/censored12-06.htm#5

It's nuts to pretend that there are "experts" in the Global War on Terror-around George Walker Bush (who may be mentally ill too) these people are extreme RW Christian-Zionist-Dominionists both in and out of uniform that implement policies from today's Committee on the Present Danger.

Committee on the Present Danger profile from Right Web
http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/3301.html

So you've got people like Senators Joseph Lieberman and John McCain's fellow Arizonan John Kyl as well as McCain 2008 national security/foreign policy advisor Randy Scheunemann and fruitcake former CIA director James Woolsey "influencing" John McCain and Sarah Palin.

This is INSANE. Look at Arizona Senator Kyl's profile, for instance.

John Kyl Right Web profile
http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1256.html

:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

[bobthedrummer]

15. Senator Edward Kennedy testified in 1977: "Some 2 years ago, the Senate Health Subcommittee heard

chilling testimony about the HUMAN EXPERIMENTATION ACTIVITIES of the Central Intelligence Agency. The Deputy Director of the CIA revealed that over 30 universities and institutions were involved in an EXTENSIVE TESTING AND EXPERIMENTATION PROGRAM which included covert tests on unwitting citizens at all social levels (high and low) native Americans and foreign.

Several of these (tests involved) the administration of LSD to unwitting subjects in (social) situations...The Central Intelligence Agency drugged American citizens without their knowledge or consent. It used university facilities and personnel without their knowledge."

It's just plain loco to deny reality while hiding crimes behind the national security shield (which is a crime in itself).

Ted Kennedy was speaking about some of these crimes based upon findings of post-Watergate congressional investigations (Church/Pike etc).

Directed energy weapons and systems, non-lethal weapons, exotic weapons all these things are real-and the "research and development" history is totally off the wall and criminally insane.

Sonoma State University/Project Censored/Media Freedom Foundation published a report about some of these directed energy weapons in December 2006. It's madness to ignore these reports today.

"US Electromagnetic Weapons and Human Rights" by Peter Phillips, Lew Brown and Bridget Thornton December 2006 (Mind Justice repost)
http://www.mindjustice.org/censored12-06.htm

:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

[lonestarnot]

17. Damn it BobtheDrummer! I had things to do today! and now I'm going to be here all day!

Reading! Good to see you! :hi:

[bobthedrummer]

18. Texas is a very special case, isn't it lonestarnot? Almost hereditary?

Post some crazy Texas stuff-I mean just go back to my OP-the Texas Medication Algorithm Project/TMAP of George Walker Bush--WOO HAH!!!!
:crazy:

[lonestarnot]

26. bobthedrummer

I am not in TX, screen name has nothing to do with locale! I'm in a crazier fucking state! AZ and I can give you a personal experience with this. Nursing homes are wonderful places for experiments and giving drugs w/o consent even when you have someone fighting for you! :crazy:

[bobthedrummer]

31. Eugenics 'r' US

[BeHereNow]

19. I've got one! Richard Armitage (Mr. Azerbaijan) and Frank Wisner (AIG VP) Together AGAIN!

http://www.mepd.org/about_us/our_team/board_members.htm
Board of Directors


Richard Armitage, Head of Armitage Associates, Former Deputy Secretary of State

Adam Backenroth, businessman and music philanthropist

A. Lawrence Chickering, Co-Director, IMEPD and Founder/President of Educate Girls Globally

Stephen P. Cohen, President, IMEPD

Morton A Katz, Treasurer, IMEPD, B. Comm. MBA. FCA (fellow)
Marcia Riklis, businesswoman and philanthropist

Ambassador Margaret Tutwiler, Head of Global Communications & Public Affairs at Merrill Lynch & Co., former Executive Vice President for Communications and Government Relations of the New York Stock Exchange and former Under Secretary of State for Public Diplomacy and Public Affairs

Ambassador Frank Wisner, Executive Vice President of AIG and former US Ambassador to Egypt, India, and the Philippines

BHN

[BeHereNow]

21. Carlucci, Poppy Bush and Baker- Pharma Cartel connection to the military-

"Some of this deadly corruption that is killing so many Americans is not as well known about. Some of the most dangerous drugs are manufactured by companies owned by the high-powered Carlyle Group investment consortium, which is also the owner of some of the biggest military contractors, and whose board is completely stacked with infamous Republican ueber-politicos the likes of James Baker, Frank Carlucci, and none other than George Bush Sr. himself. Some of these drugs are forcefed to perfectly healthy enlisted men and women in the military in the guise of "prophylactic medication" to protect them against the microbial perils lurking in the hinterlands of America's far-flung and growing global military empire."

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/02/310933.shtml

BHN

[lonestarnot]

28. I always wondering about those shots we were given every fucking weekend.

Wonder what was in them.

[bobthedrummer]

23. Good Lord-no wonder they have their own professional liability insurance companies...

Thanks BHN, I thought Frank Wisner was deceased-but that was his father who committed suicide in 1965-although black budget related "suicide" among CIA employees is always suspect-especially when they are found in/near Chesapeake Bay (Paisley, Colby, Merril, etc).

Here's a thread about this Frank Wisner of AIG from Rigorous Intuition, it was started October 18, 2006 by AlicetheCurious and has lots of crazy connected dots
"AIG,'Ambassador' Frank Wisner, LeCercle, Gladio"
http://rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?p=70248&sid=095468538a458a7383a9d0b132d3dfff

:think:

[BeHereNow]

32. DAMN! Bookmarked for SURE.

That is one SCARY thread.

Thanks!
I think...:hide:

BHN:scared:

[bobthedrummer]

35. It's reality, the lunatics are in charge that's what's frightening-at first.

It is an insane black budget funded world empire, administered by a network of homicidal psychopathic secretive RW cults.

Otoh, I've often hoped to be proven wrong...

[lonestarnot]

20. Holy crap! From the first page link

Additionally, as you may have read, AIG signed a definitive agreement with the Federal Reserve Bank. This important step allows us to move forward in finalizing and implementing our strategic initiatives and shows the Federal government’s recognition of AIG’s important role in the global financial markets. For more information about the transaction, please visit www.aig.com/commercialinsurance.

We continue to conduct meetings and calls with our clients and brokers, and appreciate your time. Should you wish to schedule a call or meeting with our management team, please reach out to your local AIGCI representative or email us at [e-mail].

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[librechik]

43. Carlyle Buys Dunkin Donuts

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x22280

[lonestarnot]

22. Re cooked books link

It is clear to me that AIG needed a smart nothing left to loose entity looking into them.But how is that accomplished w/o money, time and energy? Has Spitzer's investigative ability been shut down because he lacks credibility? No? He just likes pussy.

but looks like Arkansas students found the door!
Lucy Komisar is an investigative journalist who is writing a book about offshore bank and corporate secrecy. She received research assistance on this report from the Arkansas Committee. The committee was started in 1990 by University of Arkansas students, who, suspicious that Arkansas Development Finance Authority was selling more bonds than it could use to finance state projects, demanded the agency's documents under the Freedom of Information Act. It fought the case to the Arkansas Supreme Court before it got the papers describing the AFDA deal to buy shares of Coral Re.

[bobthedrummer]

24. Exploiting human weaknesses and character flaws=the key to riches and power in the BFEE

on edit: as far as the Arkansas Finance Authority being tapped into the black budget network and a general overview of the era of Bill Clinton as Governor of Arkansas I rely on the staff of the Ozark Gazette's investigative team because I'm such a "political whacko..."

"GRAY MONEY" (by Ozark Gazette staff)
http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/MENA/gray_money.html

[MadrasT]

27. Now here's a thread tailor-made for me...

:popcorn:

Here's my 2 cents:

1) Army Reserve teams with D.C. Police to boost employment

The Army Reserve recruited the D.C. Metropolitan Police Department in its new initiative to partner with public and private sector employers to jointly recruit, train and employ individuals.

Either side can recruit an individual for the program, to let employees get Army training and enhance Army operations.

"If you look at the makeup of the Army Reserve, there's 11,000 military police and correction specialists," said Russell Rice, chief warrant officer of the Army Reserve. "For our employment outreach, we thought we should concentrate on law enforcement because of the number of soldiers we have in this field."

There are slightly more than a million available soldiers the Army could place or find employment for, he said. They are presently working with 50 nationwide and regional companies to do just that.

-snip-

By this fall, they hope to have 400 to 500 companies signed up. They are zeroing in on companies in the engineering/construction, personnel administration, information technology, mechanic, supply, chemical, civil affairs fields, medicine, transportation, law and enforcement/corrections fields.

http://www.bizjournals.com/washington/stories/2008/06/09/daily76.html

and

2. Halliburton Subsidiary Gets Contract to Add Temporary Immigration Detention Centers

The Army Corps of Engineers has awarded a contract worth up to $385 million for building temporary immigration detention centers to Kellogg Brown & Root, the Halliburton subsidiary that has been criticized for overcharging the Pentagon for its work in Iraq.

KBR would build the centers for the Homeland Security Department for an unexpected influx of immigrants, to house people in the event of a natural disaster or for new programs that require additional detention space, company executives said. KBR, which announced the contract last month, had a similar contract with immigration agencies from 2000 to last year.

-snip-

Advocates for immigrants said they feared that the new contract was another indication that the government planned to expand the detention of illegal immigrants, including those seeking asylum.

“It’s pretty obvious that the intent of the government is to detain more and more people and to expedite their removal,” said Cheryl Little, executive director of the Florida Immigrant Advocacy Center in Miami.

Ms. Zuieback said the KBR contract was not intended for that.

“It’s not part of any day-to-day enforcement,” she said.

She added that she could not provide additional information about the company’s statement that the contract was also meant to support the rapid development of new programs.

Halliburton executives, who announced the contract last week, said they were pleased.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/04/national/04halliburton.htm

I blogged about it here: http://tortiball.com/wp/2008/06/more-than-a-little-alarming/

Have to look into all those psychology bits... those are new to me. Add a layer of tinfoil :tinfoilhat:, and dive right in, the water's fine!

[lonestarnot]

29. Yes I caught that!

“She added that she could not provide additional information about the company’s statement that the contract was also meant to support the rapid development of new programs.”

[bobthedrummer]

30. Well it's a pleasure to meet you MadrasT in this specific thread.

"Insanity Best Characterizes This Year's Elections On All Levels" (9-23-2008 CREW repost of Peg Lusick/The Bulletin article)
http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/34243

:hi:

[tannybogus]

33. They'll just put up a large fence around SC.

That should save them some trouble.

[bobthedrummer]

34. Estimates of the cost of the Global War on Terror since 9/11 are really nuts

The Congressional Research Service/CRS estimated $859 billion in a report sent to the 110th Congress on July 14, 2008, but this same Congress just passed even more during the world financial crisis and "DISAGREEMENT" over a financial "bailout".

The Cost of Iraq, Afghanistan, and other Global War on Terror Operations Since 9/11 (CRS RL33110-pdf archived by Federation of American Scientists))
http://fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RL33110.pdf

You'd have to be MAD to believe this report today, considering the FACT that RUMSFELD'S DoD "lost" a TRILLION DOLLARS-and the DoD's Inspector General's office couldn't find it either...

:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

[lonestarnot]

36. $859 Billion is insanity!

No costs related to medical care to injured for life, no accounting on "lost" money, no accounting period and certainly no accountability. I'm afraid we are done.

[bobthedrummer]

37. I found a trio of links about the Texas Medication Algorithm Project/TMAP and its disastrous

outcomes. The originator, Dr. Stephen Shon, also came up with a Children's Medication Algorithm Project/CMAP.

Here's three articles about Dr. Shon's TMAP and CMAP.

The first article is from Bloomberg.com by Rob Waters and was posted December 28, 2006.
Below is the first paragraph from Mr. Waters Bloomberg.com article:
"A Johnson & Johnson unit mislead Texas health officials about the risks of an antipsychotic drug to increase prescriptions, according to a whistleblower lawsuit joined by the state attorney general."

Here's the entire article-it's loony tunes
"J&J Sued by Texas in Whistleblower Case on Marketing (Update 1)" (Rob Waters 12-28-2006 Bloomberg.com)
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=a2mpCNBojB2I#

I don't know anything about the website of the next article, Natural News.com, but there was a posting on February 26, 2006 by user name Dani Veracity that is factual and sobering-the subject line speaks volumes

"TMAP, medication algorithm horrors, and the drugging of our children"
http://www.naturalnews.com/018715.html

Rob Waters also authored a Mother Jones article that was posted on its May/June 2005 website, it is linked below.

"Medicating Aliah" by Rob Waters (May/June 2005 Mother Jones)
http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2005/05/medicating_aliah.html

Dr. Stephen Shon and his TMAP/CMAP-maybe some other members know a bit of crazy stuff about him and his discredited "projects"-he made a lot of $$ as a Eli Lilly Board member though.

Fair use cited on all links.
:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

[bobthedrummer]

39. Supply-siders, voodoo economics, deficit spending, that's certifiable-kick

[bobthedrummer]

40. crazy bailout kick

:crazy:

[bobthedrummer]

41. Blaming Barack Obama yesterday, and "the media" today for the "failure" of the BFEE's "bailout"-nuts

[bobthedrummer]

42. Post your "insanity" in this thread, DU! Kick.

[bobthedrummer]

44. Make the people pay for the world financial crisis-yep, pathological indoctrination in action.

:crazy:

[bobthedrummer]

45. George Walker Bush wanted to "test" every citizen's "mental health"???

:wow: :crazy: :wow: :crazy: