While channel surfing, I came upon the Glenn Beck show...

[KillCapitalism]

Normally I wouldn't watch because it's nauseating, but he was talking about the bailout. I listened for a bit and was taken back a bit by what he said. It seems he is very against this bailout. I thought that was quite interesting given he's a die-hard trickle-down economics republican. I'm getting the sense this bailout isn't such a good thing if even the wing nuts are speaking out against it. Just thought I'd share.

[ingac70]

1. The bailout ultimately means Reaganomics has failed.

and shitstains like him don't want to face it.

[notadmblnd]

2. I'm sorry. I hope he didn't make your eyes bleed.

[billyoc]

3. A lot of these ultra-reactionaries are quite schizophrenic where the bailout is concerned.

The only thing they love more than Reaganomics is their hatred of government spending.

[knowbody0]

4. o'reilly too

and neil cabooooooto

[pocoloco]

5. Part of the trap that the Dems are running, not walking into!!

Grab hold of your assholes!

[droidamus2]

8. How about this

Admittedly this scenario is a little out there but it came to me while watching Lou Dobbs. If I understand how Carl Rove works he gets the public and the opposition to buy into his framing of a subject at which point he has his attacks and responses all setup.
Here is my scenario.

1) Bush crony Paulson comes out with a 'the sky is falling' statement
2) Bush and Paulson come out with the 'framing' that this must be a government bailout and done quickly.
3) Democrats buy in to the framing but want to go more slowly, Republicans pretend to buy in.
4) Democrats put forward a bill or bills that basically go along with Bushes 'desire' for a government bailout with added CEO compensation control, regulation, oversight and something for Main street.
5) At this point the Republicans who have been laying low come out with a plan that is purely market driven and privately financed and in no way like Bushes big government bailout.
6) They get all their big guns on the talk shows, put all the pressure they can on the media and get the public strongly behind their plan which the Democrats then fill they have to pass to get at least a small amount of credit for the solution and Bush signs with 'reservations' and bending to the will of the American people.

Now it doesn't matter if the Republican plan will work as it is only there to help them politically until the election is over. What they have done is set the Democrats up. They can say 'see the Democrats are the ones that are on Bushes side they presented Bushes bill. They can say see these are those bad 'big government' Democrats we keep warning you about that just want to throw your tax dollars at every problem. Finally they can say, 'see we don't need regulation or big government free market capitalism will take care of it all'. They have thus put the Democrats as the entrenched party, connected to Bush and they are the outsiders and change agents that actually get something done.

Again admittedly this scenario is way out there but I don't trust Bush, McCain and the Republicans as far as I could throw them and it wouldn't surprise me if they tried something this convoluted.

[Mojorabbit]

10. No because there will be a crash

I don't see how confidence can be put back into the market now. Both parties will look bad because they argued and played politics while the country went to hell. I don't even think the bailout will help unless confidence is restored to the market but even so it leaves the banks still not solvent and more will fail which will not be good for stability of the financial system.

I see Hong Kong had another day of bank runs.

[halfstep]

6. dont believe a word that jerk says...

he makes money by tricking stupid americans into believing he is one of them...it is easy for him to say he is against it to get points with his listeners but i am sure he is for it...he is a right wing corporate hack

[hlthe2b]

7. Beck's an absolute moron... but even morons can get it right

sometimes......

Wouldn't it be nice if we had the "real truth" to know what to believe? I'm inclined to tighten my tinfoil and think this is all a typical Bush*Rove-Cheney ruse, but how can we know? The rest of the world seems genuinely upset, so that leads me to believe there must be some truth among the lies... :shrug:

[KillCapitalism]

9. He did seem genuinely upset over it.

I know this guy is not too honest, but he was red in the face, raising his voice, and you could tell by his gestures that he probably wanted to unleash a few obscenities on air.

Seeing these guys really worked up like that is kind of :rofl: