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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:16 PM
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No this isn't The Onion: Peta urges Ben & Jerry's to use breast milk
for their ice cream to replace cow's milk.

"WATERBURY, Vt. -- People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals sent a letter to Ben Cohen and Jerry Greenfield, cofounders of Ben & Jerry's Homemade Inc., urging them to replace cow's milk they use in their ice cream products with human breast milk, according to a statement recently released by a PETA spokeswoman.

"PETA's request comes in the wake of news reports that a Swiss restaurant owner will begin purchasing breast milk from nursing mothers and substituting breast milk for 75 percent of the cow's milk in the food he serves," the statement says.

PETA officials say a move to human breast milk would lessen the suffering of dairy cows and their babies on factory farms and benefit human health.

"The fact that human adults consume huge quantities of dairy products made from milk that was meant for a baby cow just doesn't make sense," says PETA Executive Vice President Tracy Reiman. "Everyone knows that 'the breast is best,' so Ben & Jerry's could do consumers and cows a big favor by making the switch to breast milk."

"We applaud PETA's novel approach to bringing attention to an issue, but we believe a mother's milk is best used for her child," said a spokesperson for Ben and Jerry's."

Read Peta's letter here:

http://www.wptz.com/news/17539127/detail.html
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islandmkl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:17 PM
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1. that's going to take a lot of breasts....
will they need any help rounding them up, so to speak?
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:17 PM
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2. Gross! n/t
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:18 PM
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3. Women of Vermont
line up!

:wtf:
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:20 PM
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4. New flavor? Titty-Titty-Bang-Bang
:rofl:
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:21 PM
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6. OH ...DUzy!!
:rofl:
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 09:08 AM
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56. Buy it in the new 2-pack
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:21 PM
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5. If they'd stick to covert filming & exposing places like that pig farm in Iowa
I'd even consider donating to them.

But no, they have to pull stupid stunts like this, or publicly call Michael Moore and Al Gore fat, or make stupid broad brush demands for universal veganism.

:eyes:
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:22 PM
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7. PETA is the most idiotic joke of an organization I have ever seen. nt.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:25 PM
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12. They know how to get the plight of animals in the headlines. More power to 'em! nt
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:54 PM
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25. They mean that people associate support for animal rights with lunacy.
They do their own cause more harm than good.

And no anti-viv movement deserves more power.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:17 PM
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27. When else to you see animal welfare make the headlines, especially in the US?
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 06:48 AM
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46. The Michael Vick case springs to mind, as does Palin's moose-shooting.
NT
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 09:29 AM
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58. Slight correction, it's not an animal welfare story
It's a "look at the loons from PETA" story. That's all people will remember & talk about. This thread is proof of that.
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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:35 PM
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37. Think of the donkeys!
:eyes:




Following the recent bombing in Jerusalem in which a live donkey, laden with explosives, was blown up, shocking people of all nationalities around the world, PETA has written to Palestinian National Authority President Yasser Arafat asking that he urge those who listen to him to keep animals out of the conflict.

At PETA, we strive to end violence every day. As Albert Schweitzer stated, “Until he extends the circle of compassion to all living things, man will not himself find peace.”
PETA’s letter to Yasser Arafat

February 3, 2003

Yasser Arafat, President
Palestinian National Authority
Ramallah, West Bank
Palestinian Authority

1 page via facsimile: 972 7 282 2365

Your Excellency:

I am writing from an organization dedicated to fighting animal abuse around the world. We have received many calls and letters from people shocked at the bombing in Jerusalem on January 26 in which a donkey, laden with explosives, was intentionally blown up.

All nations behave abominably in many ways when they are fighting their enemies, and animals are always caught in the crossfire. The U.S. Army abandoned thousands of loyal service dogs in Vietnam. Al-Qaeda and the British government have both used animals in hideously cruel biological weaponry tests. We watched on television as stray cats in your own compound fled as best they could from the Israeli bulldozers.

Animals claim no nation. They are in perpetual involuntary servitude to all humankind, and although they pose no threat and own no weapons, human beings always win in the undeclared war against them. For animals, there is no Geneva Convention and no peace treaty—just our mercy.

If you have the opportunity, will you please add to your burdens my request that you appeal to all those who listen to you to leave the animals out of this conflict?

We send you sincere wishes of peace.

Very truly yours,

Ingrid Newkirk
President, PETA


http://www.peta.org/feat/arafat

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mr_hat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:22 PM
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8. What about the human spit in 409 household cleanser?
Those poor people sit in squalid conditions, spitting into a jar 15 hours a day. How about camels, hmm Peta? Turn about's fair play.

I love animals, but priorities, please: profiting from third world human spit fountains HAS to stop.
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PetrusMonsFormicarum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:24 PM
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9. A new flavor!
Nipple Ripple!

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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:27 PM
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34. Luscious Lactation

:smoke:
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:24 PM
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10. Sounds like PETA just jumped the synthetic shark.
:rofl:
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:40 PM
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21. The Tofu-shark???
:rofl:
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:42 PM
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22. The Tofu-shark???
:rofl:

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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:30 PM
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36. I swear to God...
...I didn't read the rest of the thread before I posted my comment.
Duckie
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 08:31 AM
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55. Great minds think alike.
:P
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yawnmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:24 PM
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11. is there enough fat?
Is there enough fat in human milk to make good ice-cream?
In addition, to maintain the consistency of taste, how do we tell the milk suppliers what to eat?
I hear drinking beer makes it taste quite good.
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vanderBeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:27 PM
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13. This is incredibly stupid.
A) Could they even make ice cream with breast milk?

B) Where the f*ck are they are going to get all this breast milk?

C) If said ice cream was possible, B&J would go out of business.

This is just idiotic on PETA's part.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:27 PM
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14. Even if it weren't ridiculous, it wouldn't be viable.
How would you control what the donors eat/drink/smoke? That shit passes through the milk.
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:51 PM
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24. exactly, not to mention medications.
It's absolutely ridiculous.
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vanlassie Donating Member (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:38 PM
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38. Ok I agree it's a joke...but......cows are fed medications too, you know?
What makes human milk inherently more unsafe than COW milk???

Just askin'
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:54 PM
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41. nothing. but the cows are fed the same meds
if one mom is on blood pressure meds, another is on blood thinners, another is on something else... I'm sure that chef oversees asks the moms there kind of questions (hope so, anyway!) but it could be dangerous territory.
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vanlassie Donating Member (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 09:06 PM
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42. I would put my money on a medically managed mother's milk any day over
the industrially managed cow.

Medications are rarely an issue in human milk anyway. The amount that transfers to the milk is generally negligible. But who is more concerned, the mother of a nursing baby or some guy on a factory farm?
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 08:11 AM
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53. Going with the logic here..
Much in the news of late is the fact our drinking water is contaminated with medications that are not filtered out of water treatment plants.


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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 11:51 AM
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59. both of you have great points!
The amount of medications that people flush down our toilets is huge and is coming back to hurt some.

I think people just don't like the idea of breast milk. they think it's "gross" or icky. I really don't care except that I can't see how a company would get enough breast milk to make ice cream. ;-)
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 12:00 PM
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62. Not true on the amount of transfer
There is ALOT actually..In fact I'm involved in a clinical trial now that looks at the concentrations of a new drug in breast milk..There is a very good reason why doctors mark medications as DO NOT TAKE WHILE LACTATING.
Lets also not forget that even things like alcohol,smoking and drug use can be passed into breast milk. I don't like to think what might happen if people think they could see breast milk for money as well. Human bodily fluids in food...baaaad idea.
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 09:09 PM
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44. They're just women - we'll keep them on a farm. Duh...
:sarcasm:
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 09:40 PM
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45. Didn't Spinal Tap write a song about this?
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 11:51 AM
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60. Sex Farm Woman!!
I'm gonna hoe you down...
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:29 PM
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15. This is absolutely hilarious...
I know this is going to make people scream about how crazy PETA is, but I say this is a brilliant move on their part. PETA does not actually expect Ben & Jerry's to use breast milk, this is satire and it is very clever satire. Say what you want, but do you think people would talking about this if PETA asked Ben & Jerry's to switch to soy? It wouldn't get any attention at all, by suggesting breast milk they bring attention to their cause. I don't always like everything that PETA does, but in this case I give my thumbs up because I have to admit that this is a clever and funny campaign.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:34 PM
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18. And exactly what "brilliant" thing will it acheive for them?
Negative attention for peta? I think they have *enough* of that to last them to the twenty-second century.

Get people to stop eating Ben and Jerry's ice cream? Seriously, why Ben and Jerry's - one of the more decent companies around?

Face it, they're just attention sluts.
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:45 PM
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23. It will get them attention...
And ultimately attention is the goal of most political and social organizations. PETA wants people to talk about their issues, and by doing crazy stuff like this they get people talking not only about them but about their issues as well.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:30 PM
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16. Where do I apply for milkman?
:rofl:
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:30 PM
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17. Still wouldn't be vegan.
:popcorn:
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:36 PM
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19. "Consume huge quantities?" O--kay.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:38 PM
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20. Fucking animal looneys.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 07:56 PM
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26. does peta actually pay people to come up with this goofy shit?
apparently they aren't happy unless they're making themselves seem like irrelevant & total loons to the general public.

whatever...:eyes:
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Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 11:55 AM
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61. Actually, yes, they do
And I'm convinced their strategy is being set by a high school drama club, as puerile and histrionic as they are.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:20 PM
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28. In an unrelated story, Ben & Jerry's to open a location in Mid-City New Orleans
Edited on Tue Sep-23-08 08:21 PM by KamaAina
where this trend appears to have originated. "Birthplace of Jazz" is so 20th-century...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=8104280&mesg_id=8105162
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:22 PM
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29. I don't even want to think about how that mass-production assembly line would look like
So replace bovine suffering with human suffering?
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:23 PM
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30. What? Were all these PETA types bottle fed?
Sounds like it's time for some haldol.
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:23 PM
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31. Im a vegetarian, but PETA is an embarrassment
they've turned the image of animal advocates into that of raving idiots.

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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:23 PM
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32. My Wife, she make this cheese...
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:25 PM
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33. PETA's reputation for idiocy continues undimmed
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 09:08 PM
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43. “A rat is a pig is a dog is a boy.”
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:28 PM
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35. PETA just jumped the shark.
What the hell?
I watched this documentary about the new dairies. They're like spas for cows. It was crazy. There's a dairy here in Oklahoma that harnesses this technology. It's awesome. And very humane. And done on the cow's schedule. When she feels full of milk, she steps into the stall. Before the suckers attach, the teets are steam cleaned gently and sterilized. The suckers attach, do their job, then, when they are done, they clean the teets again, and off she goes to graze. It was really cool.
Duckie
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:46 PM
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39. When you think about it, it IS weird that we find human milk gross, yet cow milk okay.
Aren't we the only species that consumes the milk of another species? I mean, THAT is what should seem gross, yet it's the notion of human milk that squicks us. It's odd!

Still gross, though. :puke:
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 08:47 PM
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40. I've had both
Liked em both too :)
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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 07:44 AM
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47. I thought B&J didn't even own it anymore.
owned by Unilever
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 07:47 AM
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48. yep. that's correct, though I believe Ben and Jerry both have some
involvement with the company.
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 07:56 AM
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50. Only Ben and very little involvement
Apart from Ben's membership on the advisory Board, Ben and Jerry are no longer actively involved with the company as of the Unilever acquisition back in 2000.

Seems like the research budget at PETA is a little low.

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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 07:53 AM
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49. They sold it long ago -- April of 2000
Next they can send a letter to Willard Scott (the original McDonald's "Ronald" clown) and ask him to change all the items on McDonald's menu.
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 07:58 AM
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51. Here's where PETA defeats their own purpose
Their defenders will say this gets the topic in the news so it's a good thing. The problem is the news that people remember isn't the animals, it's the wacko loonies and their weird ideas.

Additionally, with such actions it brands anyone else who doesn't like factory farming as a complete loon, sort of a guilt by association. Who wants to be viewed like that? Now, if someone speaks up against factory farming, people will say "I'm not eating breast milk ice cream!".

I'm sure this gets their base all excited and generates more donations, which I believe is their primary objective anyway.
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Alter Ego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 08:03 AM
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52. I don't care where you are on animal rights, this article should only elicit one reaction:
"GAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH."

Seriously, the B&J response needs to be along the lines of "DEAR FUCKING GOD NO WHAT IN FUCKING FUCK ARE YOU THINKING YOU ASSBANDITS?"
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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 08:27 AM
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54. Why doesn't
PETA start a brand of breast milk ice cream to show us how successful it will be. I'm sure that general population will just lap it up.



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annonymous Donating Member (850 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 09:23 AM
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57. PETA just lost any credibility they had.
Not that they had much to begin with. All they are doing is alienating most of the public. I know I'm not the only one who considers them the lunatic fringe.
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