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begin_within (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 11:06 PM Original message |
I dropped this note into the collection basket at my Mom's church today: |
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az chela (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 11:08 PM Original message |
Wow Good for you,I want to be the first to say THANK YOU |
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firedupdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 11:08 PM Response to Original message |
1. Very good! Have Mass and shut the hell up! n/t |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 12:17 PM Response to Reply #1 |
73. One reason I liked the latin mass |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 01:16 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. I liked it and I'm not even Catholic! |
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Blaze Diem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 04:08 PM Response to Reply #75 |
106. I grew up saying the Mass in Latin. Had no clue what it meant, but I agree there is |
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Tigress DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 02:54 AM Response to Reply #106 |
162. My mom was bummed when they stopped doing the mass in Latin. |
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barbiegeek (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 02:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
94. Turn them into the IRS |
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mduffy31 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 09:52 PM Response to Reply #94 |
143. You can do that |
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TooRaLoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 11:08 PM Response to Original message |
2. K & R ! |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 04:59 AM Response to Reply #2 |
43. AND then contact the IRS to complain about politicking in church and asking |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 11:09 PM Response to Original message |
3. . |
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madmax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 11:09 PM Response to Original message |
4. Great idea - thanks. n/t |
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jkshaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 11:10 PM Response to Original message |
5. Wow, Bob, |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 11:10 PM Response to Original message |
6. Thank you, but do you really think they care? |
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begin_within (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 11:14 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. well, I'll tell you this |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 11:16 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Interesting, so he did get the message. I wonder if he is aware that |
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begin_within (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 11:18 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. I wish the whole Catholic church knew that... it's a BIG church as you know. |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 11:26 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. I am Jewish, and I wish all the American Jews knew the background of palin also /nt |
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clear eye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 08:15 PM Response to Reply #19 |
136. Yeah, she's real comfy with Jews for Jesus n/t |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 09:21 AM Response to Reply #16 |
63. Good luck with that .... |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 06:24 PM Response to Reply #63 |
119. "Existing patriarchal system". You are kidding, right? When was the Catholic Church anything but |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 12:10 AM Response to Reply #6 |
38. This touches upon their INCOME- you better fucking believe they care.nm |
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FloridaJudy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 01:15 PM Response to Reply #6 |
74. There's a huge difference |
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spag68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 11:19 PM Response to Reply #6 |
148. Church |
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HelenWheels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 07:13 AM Response to Reply #6 |
168. the thought of the loss of tax-exempt status would rattle their cage |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 11:10 PM Response to Original message |
7. What, exactly, was said? Churches do have the right to make statements on |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 11:12 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. If the church specially asked its members to vote for a particular candidate |
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Tigress DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 11:27 PM Response to Reply #7 |
21. UM, abortion and gay marriage non-partisan? Not really, but their opinion pre-dates the debate. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 11:48 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. " Still, I do not believe that telling you HOW to vote on any referendum is in line.. |
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Tigress DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 02:01 AM Response to Reply #29 |
158. Sorry, the law is the law. They can bend it but not break it. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 04:44 PM Response to Reply #158 |
185. Yeah. Wikipedia is a better source than the Constitutional lawyer |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 07:21 AM Response to Reply #21 |
49. Exactly |
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Tigress DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 02:25 AM Response to Reply #49 |
159. Well here is where the bend but not break it comes into play. |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 12:15 PM Response to Reply #7 |
71. Not exactly |
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Tigress DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 02:32 AM Response to Reply #71 |
160. But that is still about a member chosing an option for themselves, not making it a US law. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 05:16 PM Response to Reply #71 |
189. Actually, they can. They can't endorse specific parties or candidates. |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 11:11 PM Response to Original message |
8. churches do have the right to take about propositions |
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begin_within (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 11:15 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. Yes and they are blatant about Prop. 8, and today they had a full-color flyer (Yes on 4) |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 11:31 PM Response to Reply #13 |
22. and it's the right of the church to be blatant about these issues |
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begin_within (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 11:41 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. I'm just taking my Mom because she's 89 and can't make it there on my own. |
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Tigress DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 11:45 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. The things we do for our mothers. |
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Patiod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 08:12 AM Response to Reply #24 |
56. God bless you for that |
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Tigress DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 11:43 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Not all Catholics or Catholic parishes hate gays &Jesus forgave prostitutes when hypocrites would.. |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 11:56 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. i guess I'm old school |
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jrockford (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 05:11 AM Response to Reply #31 |
44. and they find their way to Catholic Charities, food shelves, |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 09:22 AM Response to Reply #44 |
64. you're attacking me for telling the truth? |
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jrockford (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 04:14 PM Response to Reply #64 |
109. No, what's sad is you condemn an entire group |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 09:31 PM Response to Reply #109 |
139. the CC THERE has no issue with same sex adoptions |
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Tigress DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 03:30 AM Response to Reply #139 |
163. Look, it depends on which parish, which pope etc.. wiggle room post Vatican II '62-'65 |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 01:55 PM Response to Reply #31 |
85. "Catholics by definition follow the pope's teaching on these subjects" |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 02:20 PM Response to Reply #85 |
90. It would be the Catholic church's definition. |
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Beregond2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 03:20 PM Response to Reply #90 |
99. There is more to a church than it's current dogma. |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 03:34 PM Response to Reply #99 |
101. OK, so dogma changes |
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Beregond2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 04:32 PM Response to Reply #101 |
177. Indulgences only existed because of the doctrine of |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 05:09 PM Response to Reply #90 |
112. First off, very few things in the Catholic Church are "dogma",. |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 05:48 PM Response to Reply #112 |
116. So birth control isn't a mortal sin |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 07:12 PM Response to Reply #116 |
124. I don't know what seminary you attended, but if the use |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 07:24 PM Response to Reply #124 |
125. Yep |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 07:31 PM Response to Reply #125 |
127. So, if I'm a Catholic practicing birth control, then I go to Hell, |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 07:42 PM Response to Reply #127 |
131. If the Catholics are right |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 07:52 PM Response to Reply #131 |
133. As I noted above, the two groups that pay attention to the Pope are right wing Catholics |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 10:01 PM Response to Reply #133 |
145. I would argue that definitionally |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 08:03 AM Response to Reply #124 |
169. A lot of Catholics |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 08:12 AM Response to Reply #169 |
172. And I, personally, am very pleased |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 10:32 AM Response to Reply #172 |
175. I am too. |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 11:54 PM Response to Reply #85 |
154. the CHURCH tradition teaches that the Pope has sole authority |
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Tigress DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 03:36 AM Response to Reply #85 |
164. Well, here again is the wiggle room... "The Rhythm Method" |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 08:13 AM Response to Reply #164 |
173. The Rhythm Method a.k.a. |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 06:34 PM Response to Reply #22 |
120. probably because they see it as different issues? |
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Tigress DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 11:33 PM Response to Reply #8 |
23. From an educational stand point and with limited financial support. |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 06:45 AM Response to Reply #8 |
46. They do indeed. They cannot endorse political candidates |
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Tigress DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 02:41 AM Response to Reply #46 |
161. AND they can NOT tell you how to VOTE either. |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 12:16 PM Response to Reply #8 |
72. Do you have a cite for that "right?" |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 01:20 PM Response to Reply #72 |
76. Some little shitrag called the Constitution |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 01:28 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. Snark is uncalled for |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 01:38 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. Here |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 01:47 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. Thank you -- that's all I wanted |
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Tigress DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 03:48 AM Response to Reply #76 |
165. The Constitution AND 501(c) (3) decry ABUSING the Power of the pulpit |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 05:20 PM Response to Reply #165 |
190. Can you quote the Constitution, you know, the part where it DECRIES |
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FreeState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 11:11 PM Response to Original message |
9. I love you! n/t |
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NanceGreggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 11:14 PM Response to Original message |
11. K ... |
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Tigress DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 11:17 PM Response to Original message |
15. What did they say? |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 05:18 PM Response to Reply #15 |
113. Well, not really |
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Tigress DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 04:03 AM Response to Reply #113 |
166. In present day circumstances, the Churches don't have that kind of power, BUT.. |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 11:23 PM Response to Original message |
17. Wow! That is sooo cool.... |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 11:24 PM Response to Original message |
18. Good work, and honestly, this is why I don't go to "church" anymore. |
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mwb970 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 06:59 AM Response to Reply #18 |
48. I last went to a church service in 1967. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 11:27 PM Response to Original message |
20. Bravo, sir! Excellent work. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 11:42 PM Response to Original message |
25. delete, dupe. nt |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 11:44 PM Response to Original message |
27. They won't read it. File the lawsuit. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 11:53 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. They read it, and it handed them a good laugh. |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 12:22 AM Response to Reply #30 |
41. There are lots of reputation-hungry lawyers that would do this pro-bono. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 12:55 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Happily, the ACLU knows the law. Freedom of speech extends even into the pulpit. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 07:29 PM Response to Reply #42 |
126. I don't think people quite understand that if you make "political" issues off limits.... |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 05:36 PM Response to Reply #126 |
192. This is precisely why I belong to the ACLU. And support people's rights to say |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 06:46 AM Response to Reply #27 |
47. There's no suit there - they church is allowed to address issues |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 01:22 PM Response to Reply #27 |
77. Don't forget to sue all the churches that teach the social gospel |
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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 11:59 PM Response to Original message |
32. They forced out a priest from our parish because of his outspoken |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 12:05 AM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Yep. That priest had a legal right to take a stand against the war, |
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patomime (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 12:00 AM Response to Original message |
33. I applaud your bravery.... |
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begin_within (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 12:04 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Not that brave, since they don't know who it was that wrote it. |
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October (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 04:11 PM Response to Reply #35 |
108. It's a step... |
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patomime (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:49 AM Response to Reply #35 |
156. Some people.... |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 12:12 AM Response to Reply #33 |
39. This made me laugh out loud: |
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patomime (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 09:46 PM Response to Reply #39 |
141. I guess my point was.... |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 04:34 PM Response to Reply #141 |
178. It's offensive to people who know the law and value free speech. |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 07:27 AM Response to Reply #33 |
51. Some of us |
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patomime (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 12:02 AM Response to Reply #51 |
155. Not once did I say... |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 08:06 AM Response to Reply #155 |
171. Sadly |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 07:40 PM Response to Reply #33 |
129. Bravery? |
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patomime (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 09:48 PM Response to Reply #129 |
142. You made my point.... |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 12:02 AM Response to Original message |
34. Brilliant! |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 12:06 AM Response to Original message |
37. Why did you bother going to that church anyway? |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 12:12 AM Response to Original message |
40. It's too bad and speaks volumes that money is what makes a difference in a church. |
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bean fidhleir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 05:24 AM Response to Original message |
45. Well done! Let's hope the priest comes to his senses (although that's unlikely) |
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yellerpup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 07:21 AM Response to Original message |
50. Yours is a message that will not be ignored. |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 07:30 AM Response to Original message |
52. That note should go in a whole lot of collection plates. nt |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 07:35 AM Response to Original message |
53. Hmm...sounds like you could start a trend. |
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jrockford (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 04:08 PM Response to Reply #53 |
107. Yeah, damn Irish diaspora... |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 06:01 PM Response to Reply #107 |
117. I'm making up for reverse stereotyping for forty years. |
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D23MIURG23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 07:47 AM Response to Original message |
54. nice. |
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jhain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 07:52 AM Response to Original message |
55. EXCELLENT. About time they got hit where it hurts n/t |
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pleah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 08:12 AM Response to Original message |
57. K&R |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 08:18 AM Response to Original message |
58. Fuck YEAH! |
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Puglover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 08:22 AM Response to Original message |
59. What a great idea! |
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lady raven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 08:30 AM Response to Original message |
60. My denomination would welcome you should you choose to switch churches |
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begin_within (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 10:36 AM Response to Reply #60 |
67. Thanks for the offer, but I don't believe in any religion. In fact I belive that God hates religion. |
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SavageDem (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 06:19 PM Response to Reply #60 |
118. Hey, denominational partner! |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 04:37 PM Response to Reply #118 |
180. I'm UCC, too. And I believe clergy should have freedom of the pulpit. nt |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 04:36 PM Response to Reply #60 |
179. I doubt it. The DOC values freedom of the pulpit. |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
61. For precision see pages 7 - 15 of Publication 1828 |
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NoSheep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 09:15 AM Response to Original message |
62. Great job! Thanks for sharing this. |
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Mad_Dem_X (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 09:22 AM Response to Original message |
65. Terrific! |
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electron_blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 09:23 AM Response to Original message |
66. Good! I'm sure you've figured out, however, that the church may be getting |
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Naturyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
68. Awesome, although they will just mentally categorize you as evil (n/t) |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
69. Good for you! |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
70. Rec'd! Great job, bob_weaver. They'll never know unless you tell them! nt |
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begin_within (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 01:39 PM Response to Reply #70 |
81. I just hope it gets all the way to the bishop, because Bishop Robert Brom is a hard right-wing |
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pacalo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
79. Bravo! |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
83. New proposition: |
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foxfeet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
84. Very well done! Good on ya! n/t |
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DangerDave921 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
86. I must point out something |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 05:24 PM Response to Reply #86 |
114. The Constitution doesn't contain |
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DangerDave921 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 07:05 AM Response to Reply #114 |
167. a fair trial is guaranteed |
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clear eye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 08:41 PM Response to Reply #86 |
137. First amendment |
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Maraya1969 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
87. AMEN!!!!!! |
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shrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
88. The priest at my church has the opposite problem |
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hisownpetard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
89. Fantastic!!!! |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
91. way to go |
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orleans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
92. fuck it. report them anyway. they've done it before, they'll do it again. call |
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barbiegeek (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
93. Turn them into the IRS |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 02:39 PM Response to Reply #93 |
96. This is what we want? Government agents screening sermons? |
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fudge stripe cookays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 08:01 PM Response to Reply #96 |
135. When the.... |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 09:10 AM Response to Reply #135 |
174. "tit for tat" in shredding rights. What an insufferably stupid notion. |
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fudge stripe cookays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 05:36 PM Response to Reply #174 |
191. Most liberal churches... |
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Just-plain-Kathy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
95. Speaking as a person who learned about abortions when I was about six years old... |
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PatSeg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 04:40 PM Response to Reply #95 |
111. That is awful |
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cui bono (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
97. Fantastic! |
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TooBigaTent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
98. Put a McCain sign on the front lawn of the church, take a photo, and send it to the media and the |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 11:33 PM Response to Reply #98 |
152. That would be lying. Not cool. n/t |
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scytherius (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
100. Awesome! |
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quoddy woman (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
102. Good on you! |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
103. ha! excellent, and maturely written with wisdom |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
104. Next time, add one of these as well.... |
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Wednesdays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
105. Uh-oh... |
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Aeval (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
110. You are my hero! |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 05:34 PM Response to Original message |
115. Good. Hope that shakes up the folks up at the church. |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
121. Why don't you make a list and nail it to the church door? |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
122. Good for you. |
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graywarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 06:56 PM Response to Original message |
123. Fantastic! |
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The Wizard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 07:36 PM Response to Original message |
128. Any time the Church |
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sarcasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 07:41 PM Response to Original message |
130. Good for you, kick and Nom. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 07:44 PM Response to Original message |
132. Actually, they DO have a right, and a DUTY to talk about the criteria... |
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happygoluckytoyou (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
134. Organized Religon ? Sorry---- I give directly to the poor... 100% PAYOFF!!! |
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Plucketeer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 08:54 PM Response to Original message |
138. Cameras are SO discreet and concealble now. |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 09:37 PM Response to Original message |
140. Good for you!! I caught St. PAULS CHURCH in BEDFORD MASS tucking away a MCCAIN SIGN at a fair!!!!! |
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Silentechoes (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 09:55 PM Response to Original message |
144. Freedom of Religion Explained |
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mackerel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 10:04 PM Response to Reply #144 |
146. I dropped this note into the collection basket at my Mom's church today: |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 11:32 PM Response to Reply #144 |
151. Churchgoers pay his salary. |
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coronavir7 (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 11:17 PM Response to Original message |
147. not cool |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 11:24 PM Response to Reply #147 |
150. Americans can also work to change the institutions |
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HCE SuiGeneris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 11:41 PM Response to Reply #147 |
153. You should post more. I'm intrigued by your perspective... |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 01:24 AM Response to Reply #147 |
157. Of course we can choose where & how to worship! Sarah Palin chooses Pastor Muthee's church. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 04:40 PM Response to Reply #147 |
182. Thank you! And welcome to DU! nt |
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fudge stripe cookays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-24-08 05:58 AM Response to Reply #147 |
198. He said he took his aged mother. |
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codjh9 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 11:24 PM Response to Original message |
149. I love it! I wish I had the text of the note I wrote to a Baptist church where I used to live |
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cboy4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 08:04 AM Response to Original message |
170. Excellent. |
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geek_sabre (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
176. it doesn't sound like they're doing anything illegal |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 04:38 PM Response to Reply #176 |
181. But if thats the case, then they are no longer a church and are now a PAC |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 04:42 PM Response to Reply #181 |
183. Nonsense. They have every right to enter into political discourse |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 04:43 PM Response to Reply #183 |
184. Well I would go for that, as long as we can drop tax exemption for churches |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 04:46 PM Response to Reply #184 |
186. Churches are 501c3s, along with a good many other non-profits. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 04:47 PM Response to Reply #186 |
187. Keep the charities, drop the churches |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 05:15 PM Response to Reply #187 |
188. Many church-related charities, including children's homes, nursing homes, |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 05:55 PM Response to Reply #188 |
193. Not because I hate religious people |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 06:11 PM Response to Reply #193 |
194. When churches apply for 501c3 (yes, they have to apply), they must list |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 06:11 PM Response to Reply #194 |
195. Purposes can be vague |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 06:13 PM Response to Reply #195 |
196. Write your congress critter if you want the law changed. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-23-08 06:17 PM Response to Reply #195 |
197. That's not the rule though. You can have a non-profit book club for all the government cares. |
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