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randr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 12:03 PM Original message |
Why not a national maximum wage? |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
1. Because that's stupid. |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 12:10 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Why? |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 12:11 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Response #3 suffices. |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 07:14 PM Response to Reply #4 |
51. Bwahahahaha...you must be unfamiliar with the Commerce Clause. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 09:51 PM Response to Reply #51 |
57. Don't even think about growing a patch of wheat in your own yard |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
3. Please show what part of the Constitution would give the federal government the power to do that |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 12:15 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. A progressive rate that hits 100% does the job nicely. Totally legal. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 12:17 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. They had a 100% tax rate for certain people in this country at one point.... |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 12:23 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Fuck 'em. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 12:27 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. lolz |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 12:20 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. Isn't that Ron Paul's line? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 06:40 PM Response to Reply #10 |
46. No, it's a very serious question |
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salguine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 12:32 PM Response to Reply #3 |
19. I haven't seen our lawmakers rushing to check the Constitution before doing much else lately. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 06:41 PM Response to Reply #19 |
47. Past excesses do not excuse additional abuses of power |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 02:48 PM Response to Reply #3 |
37. Article 1, Section 8, Clause 3: Regulation of Interstate Commerce. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 06:42 PM Response to Reply #37 |
48. This is the closest anyone has come to a legitimate answer |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 09:33 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. That is up to the courts, I imagine. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 08:42 AM Response to Reply #48 |
62. ICC is the jurisdictional hook used to justify virtually EVERY federal regulatory power |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 09:33 AM Response to Reply #62 |
70. I'm not a Constitutional scholar or even a lawyer, so I realize my opinion holds little weight |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 11:39 AM Response to Reply #70 |
76. "It is emphatically the province and duty of the judicial department to say what the law is." |
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Leftist Agitator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 09:42 AM Response to Reply #62 |
71. Where's my PDA? |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 11:32 AM Response to Reply #71 |
75. "Oh, gee, I'm sorry, is this the movie Thief, music by Tangerine Dream? I don't think so. " |
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Leftist Agitator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 01:16 PM Response to Reply #75 |
78. Well... |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 08:50 AM Response to Reply #48 |
64. It is infinite in scope. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 09:15 AM Response to Reply #64 |
67. SCOTUS has found 2 provisions in violation of ICC in our history, IIRC. nt |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 08:40 AM Response to Reply #3 |
61. The power to regulate interstate commerce is CLEARLY sufficient to encompass wage controls. nt |
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Winterblues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 11:39 AM Response to Reply #3 |
77. What part gives them the power to impose minimum wage? |
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dkofos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
5. I'd rather we tax the rich at 50% or more. |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 12:19 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. But what would cause more equality? |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 01:49 PM Response to Reply #8 |
33. Given that money has already been equated with speech... |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 12:21 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. Top rate was 91% not too long ago. (1963) |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
9. Theoretically, it would destroy motivation to do anything above and beyond what is necessary. |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 12:23 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Waaah....I can only make 5 million a year now! Waaah... |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 12:28 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. That's the point. How do you define a ceiling? |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 12:33 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Soccer Mom and Joe Sixpack could just use Ubuntu |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 12:29 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. At least it would destroy motivation for thieves and moral midgets. But is that so bad? |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 12:34 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. True, but my way covers both bases. |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 01:31 PM Response to Reply #21 |
31. The only way the greedling might have the best model is by raping the inventor... |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 05:24 PM Response to Reply #31 |
45. You know, this is one of the biggest lies that exists. That unfettered profit drives innovation. |
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electron_blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 12:36 PM Response to Reply #9 |
22. Once you get into making hundreds of millions a year, you ain't doing it for the |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 12:38 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. In this country, we used to tax people making 100 million/year at 90 percent. |
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dana_b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 01:42 PM Response to Reply #23 |
32. seriously - if people can't live on 10 million a year... |
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greblc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 03:22 PM Response to Reply #32 |
40. amen |
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slampoet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 06:48 PM Response to Reply #9 |
50. Doing you really think that money has no motivating factor besides avoiding taxes? |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 08:51 AM Response to Reply #9 |
65. $7.5 million a year would be enough to incentivize someone I should think. |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
17. the 'maximum wage' can effectively be set by tax policy... |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 12:40 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. It used to be that way in the 1940s, 1950s, and into the early 1960s. |
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backwoodsbob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 02:44 PM Response to Reply #24 |
36. tax rate was very high but... |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
18. I personally think |
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gravity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
25. There is nothing wrong with making money |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 12:45 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. It'd have to be higher than that to service the national debt and pay for the war and fix... |
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gravity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. You could be right |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 03:37 PM Response to Reply #25 |
42. Yes there is. |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
28. I like the concept but see how they could get around it with other forms of compensation |
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Mariana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 02:35 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. Those could also be taxed as income... |
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DemoRabbit (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
29. It certainly sounds controversial - but I've often wondered about salary caps. |
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randr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
30. A solution may be a cap on interest rates |
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Boojatta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
34. What if I want an employee to actually get something done? |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
38. The tide that lifts all boats |
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bighart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
39. a quick check of tax rates shows |
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JustAnotherGen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
41. How would it work for a writer? |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 03:48 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. That writer doesn't have an employer and is not paid wages. |
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JustAnotherGen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 05:05 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. So like Stephen King |
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Dr. Strange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 06:47 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. 'Bout time! |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 09:40 PM Response to Reply #44 |
55. Stephen King is not paid wages. |
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Dr. Strange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 08:42 AM Response to Reply #55 |
63. Congratulations. |
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ileus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 07:21 PM Response to Original message |
52. Should be Obama's first order of business in Feb. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 09:49 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. How would imposing a maximum wage help "the little people"? |
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Naturyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 09:34 PM Response to Original message |
54. I'm for the equivalent... |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-21-08 09:56 PM Response to Original message |
58. Nothing personal, but that is a stupid idea and here is why |
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randr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 08:30 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. One flaw in your proposition |
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Egalitariat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 09:28 AM Response to Reply #59 |
68. What about entrepreneurs whose income is determined by how |
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randr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 04:52 PM Response to Reply #68 |
79. Competition |
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Hugabear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 08:39 AM Response to Original message |
60. I have long been in favor of a salary cap |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 08:51 AM Response to Original message |
66. No. |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
69. It's called "restraint of trade" and you don't want to do that. |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
72. because a billion dollars in one year is not a big enough incentive for some people. |
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quispquake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
73. I remember Jello BIafra proposed that... |
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whopis01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-22-08 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
74. I think the problem is that there are too many inherent loopholes to make it effective. |
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