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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 07:39 AM
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Scarborough just said he opposed social security privatization --BZZT! Wrong answer
Edited on Thu Sep-18-08 07:41 AM by dorkulon
Just saw it on Morning Joe, TiVo'd it. Here's a transcript:

Jesse Jackson, Jr: Can you imagine if the Congress of the United States, in its own political debates over the last couple of years, had allowed Social Security to be privatized, and the Lehman Bros. and Merrill Lynch had our Social Security Benefits? Can you imagine the devastating implications for senior citizens, in fact all Americans, if we had allowed that to happen?

Joe Scarborough: I know. You know, Mike Barnicle, the reason I was against privatization of social security was because I knew if people made their own investments, and they lost, then the government would have to come back and bail them out too.

Mike Barnicle: No doubt about it. No doubt about it.


That's not what it says here:

Create personal retirement accounts within Social Security.
Scarborough co-sponsored creating personal retirement accounts within Social Security

OFFICIAL CONGRESSIONAL SUMMARY:

* Amends Social Security Act to add a new tax-exempt "Personal Retirement Account Program".
* Designates a personal retirement account for each such individual that is funded by deposits from amounts in the Federal Old-Age and Survivors Insurance Trust Fund not otherwise required for immediate withdrawal, and by rollover and other contributions made by eligible individuals.
* Directs the SEC to report to Congress on personal retirement account reinsurance.
* Amends the tax code to provide for: (1) annual $300 contributions (tax credits) on behalf of each eligible individual to a personal retirement account; and (2) an excise tax on excess contributions to such accounts.

SPONSOR'S INTRODUCTORY STATEMENT: One of the things I have consistently heard from folks back home is the very simple idea that the first part of saving Social Security is making sure that Social Security taxes stay with Social Security. That is what this bill does because it takes the Social Security surplus, whatever that happens to be, and simply rebates it back to the people paying Social Security taxes, not to go out and fix up the car or buy a refrigerator with it, but instead to go into their own personal Social Security savings account that would be held by a fiduciary like the local bank.

The individual could not get their hands on the money until they turn 65, but they would get a monthly statement and for the first time, because of the private property rights that come with an account like that, for the first time have a firewall created between political forces in D.C. and their Social Security surplus.

LEGISLATIVE OUTCOME: Referred to the House Committee on Ways and Means; never called for a House vote.


Say it ain't so, Joe. What a fraudulent person.

edited for spelling/punctuation

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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 07:40 AM
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1. Dead Intern Joe lies?
no ****!!!!
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 07:41 AM
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2. Oh come on
Rethugs lie non-stop.
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 07:43 AM
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4. Doesn't mean we shouldn't hold them to it when we catch them.
Edited on Thu Sep-18-08 07:45 AM by dorkulon
I realize it's par for the course, but I'll help document a blatant self-serving lie if I can. I'll probably notify Media Matters, too, just in case.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 07:46 AM
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5. Good catch, there's going to be a lot of that going around..
rethug history revisionism. McBush's entire Senate record is going to come back to haunt him. I was going to look up some McBush quotes on s.s. privitization today as a matter of fact.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 07:49 AM
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6. It's a great catch
but no surprise. Expose that pathological LIAR. :hi:
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 07:42 AM
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3. He was for it before he was against it. nt
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 10:58 AM
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24. Credibility check -- to find dreams of tear gas in Denver, and real tear gas in St. Paul
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panAmerican Donating Member (864 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 07:50 AM
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7. Great catch! Scarboy is another one who doesn't appreciate "The Google"
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olegramps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 07:56 AM
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9. Like when he left congress to spend more time with his family
He is no different than the scum bag McCain who dumped his crippled wife. Good old Joe resigned from congress because of a messy divorce when he was having an affair.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 07:53 AM
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8. Is there a site that tracks *true* statements by Republicans?
It would save a lot of server capacity compared to the list-o'-lies sites.
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 09:55 AM
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19. i found it!
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 09:59 AM
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20. Good find!
It's been a long, long time since they were right about anything, hasn't it?
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tpsbmam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 07:59 AM
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10. Brilliant catch, dorkulon. K&R n/t
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tpsbmam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 08:02 AM
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11. A P.S. Send this to Scarborough....
Let him know people are paying attention and you know he's a lying sack of shit.
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 08:08 AM
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14. The more people that send this out, the better chance it has
To penetrate the blogosphere. Send it to Joe, to media matters, and anyoe else we can think of.
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 08:03 AM
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12. Joe comments on his interns death.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 08:06 AM
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13. Joe Scarborough and Mike Barnicle???
Neither of them separately are worth the powder to blow them to hell. Together, they're really worth it. Two complete wastes of skin and hair.

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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 08:32 AM
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15. I distinctly remember how they felt it was the responsibility of every
individual to become informed about their own investments. And this was back in the day when t.v. financial consultants were pushing stocks that they were personally invested in.

These asshats knew the good times would end. They just wanted to deflect the blame on the individual investor, just like they did with the Savings and Loans bailout.
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 08:48 AM
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16. they wanted to transfer the SS fund into the market.
It would have inflated the stock market hugely, and the smart money would have gotten out before it all crashed. Massive theft is what they were after, as always.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 09:16 AM
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18. The question is, that now that we know how capitalism really works in this country,
how are they going to keep the good times rolling?
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 08:29 AM
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25. By funding the market with taxpayer money through bail-outs.
Already happening.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 09:07 AM
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17. lying Repubs...what's new with Joe Skankburg and his Nissan Side-kick that drives him
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 10:01 AM
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21. history rewritten
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 10:10 AM
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22. K&R.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 10:11 AM
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23. Joe the liar.. what a surprise for a Republican
hiding his own record.
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