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Redbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 10:58 PM
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Some of Ike's missing may have just washed away
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 11:00 PM
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1. Imagine being adrift in all that debris! n/t
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Redbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 11:02 PM
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2. Its so awful to even think of.
I know people who live on the island. Im so glad they left.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 11:02 PM
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3. Or not.
The bottom line of the article is: no one knows.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 11:06 PM
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4. In the 1900 hurricane, the bodies that were taken out to be dumped in the gulf
Edited on Wed Sep-17-08 11:06 PM by Ilsa
washed ashore. There were so many that the town had to hire people, usually the poorest of the poor, and mostly African American, to take the bodies out and burn them in funeral pyres. They paid them mostly in liquor, from what I have heard and read. The aftermath of that hurricane was horrific.

I suspect alot of bodies may be out in the Gulf of Mexico.I'm surprised we haven't heard more about bodies washing in, though.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 11:20 PM
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6. I would have to be paid in liquor...
to endure that job.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 12:02 AM
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9. Did you read this thread?
An entire town washed away :(
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 09:00 AM
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14. I'm not sure what you are asking me.
I was the fourth reply to the OP, so no, I didn't read the other posts before I wrote that one. I live about 120 miles from Galveston and have been following the hurricane and the story since before this disaster happened. I know a little about Texas history. I don't understand what you are asking me.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 09:02 AM
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15. I just asked you if you read that thread?
no ulterior motives.

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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 09:14 AM
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18. This thread? I read the posts before mine. I'm not sure why
you are asking me.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 09:30 AM
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19. No, I meant the thread about the city of Gilichrist
and I forgot to post the link to it.

Again, no ulterior motives - just forget it -
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 11:12 PM
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5. This was no Katrina though. Every effort was made to get every person out with a mandatory
evacuation. The article says as many as 90,000 ignored the MANDATORY evacuation. What do people expect? There was a reason the evacuation was ordered.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 09:07 AM
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16. I read a quotation from a Corpus Christi couple onJeff Master's blog last night
They said because they follow Master's blog, they left Wednesday. They argued that the mandatory evacuation orders came way too late and that many people were unable to leave because the sea surge started very early on Friday. I was watching and that is correct. I saw helicopters rescuing people trying to leave before lunch on Friday.

Additionally people who wanted to leave worked and waited for their partner to return from work on Thursday night planning to leave early Friday morning. Lots of people simply could not get out.
Please remember also that there were several people who needed assistance to leave.

There's a press conference going on now.

http://www.maroonspoon.com/wx/ike.html
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 09:13 AM
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17. Not true. The Mayor of Galveston waited too long.
She poo-pooed the storm until too late (I was listening to her press conferences in the days preceding the storm). She didn't make serious enough warnings until the NWS issued their "certain death" alert overnight Thursday. By late Friday morning it was too late to get out. The flooding had already cut roads off. Some people abandoned their cars and tried to swim to safety, others decided it was safer to return home. From all accounts, the authorities were not there to ferry these people to safety once the roads became impassable.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 09:35 AM
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20. Have you heard anyone blaming the people for staying behind, the way
they did for Katrina?
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 11:57 PM
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7. Bodies out at sea is what I fear has happened.
:cry:
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 12:00 AM
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8. I would be surprised if a few were not
I'm not suggesting any large number, but certainly a few were.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 12:07 AM
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10. k&r
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WritersBlock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 12:47 AM
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11. Well, the people or their bodies have to be somewhere.
Am I the only one who found this sentence to be very chilling by what it left unsaid?

We don't know what's out there in the wilds," said Galveston County medical examiner Stephen Pustilniks. "Searchers weren't looking for bodies; they were looking for survivors."


Note he did not say they didn't see bodies, just that they weren't looking for them.


Another likelihood of where many probably are: ... pic 13 here:

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2008/09/the_short_but_eventful_life_of.html

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Tulum_Moon Donating Member (556 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 01:13 AM
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12. Did bodies or any debris ever wash BACK over the seawall?
Those bodies must wash out and then wash back in?
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WritersBlock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:17 AM
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13. Don't know ... but not all areas had seawalls, as I understand it.


Especially Gilchrist & Crystal Beach?

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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 10:22 AM
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21. This wasn't supposed to happen again. But it did.
Are we surprised? I'm not. It's the same as NOLA. There were people who couldn't leave and there
was no plan. Now FEMA says, ice for survivors is not their "responsibility." Basic element, water.

The first thing that should happen is a confirmation of what we've heard. Wouldn't take long on
delayed warnings, lack kof evacuation.

Then impeach the governor of Texas.
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