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DemoRabbit Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 02:34 PM
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McCain camp charged with ELECTION FRAUD in Wisconsin - Absentee Ballots
Edited on Sun Sep-14-08 02:46 PM by DemoRabbit
Link: http://news.racinepost.com/2008/09/gop-absentee-ballot-mailings-called.html

GOP Absentee Ballot Mailings Called Voter Fraud

Democratic voters in at least two Wisconsin communities have received absentee voter forms from the McCain campaign that -- if used -- could cause their votes to be ignored.

Is it a simple error? Or campaign shenanigans and voter fraud? You be the judge.

Keith Heck, a former Racine Unified School Board member who lives in Mount Pleasant, reports receiving a mailing containing two tear-out requests for an absentee ballot. The preprinted request form -- an 11x17 piece of card stock folded over twice for mailing -- is addressed to the clerk in the the village of Caledonia.

Heck says, "I spoke with the Caledonia clerk and learned if we (in Mount Pleasant) used the form and sent it to the pre-printed address they would have to forward it to the right jurisdiction (if they had the time and the people) who would then have to send out the absentee ballot. As the deadline to submit a request is Oct. 30, and the clerks have a deadline of Oct. 31, this bogus form not only gums up and overworks the process to get absentee ballots sent out, it could cause some to not even be mailed."
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 02:38 PM
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1. Call it election fraud - the voters didn't commit the fraud, GOP officials did.
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 02:45 PM
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10. Yes this is a VERY important distinction since the Republicans are always trying
to claim voter fraud and use that as a reason to tighten up regulations for people to vote, such as voter ID cards etc... They are doing this specifically to make it harder for people to vote because they know that the more people that vote, the more they lose. And the people who find it hardest to meet the new requirements are generally in Democratic areas.

When the Republicans tamper with an election, such as this method or with electronic voting machines, it is election fraud.

It is extremely important to not mix the two phrases so as not to allow the "voter fraud" meme to become imbeded in our consciousness and thus have stricter laws creep into place making it harder for people to vote.
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 02:39 PM
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2. this goes along with the other stories we have heard
about the ballots being sent from their camp. If the voter did not check a certain box (that is normally not on the ballot) then the entire ballot was void. I believe that was in Florida. They are at it again and fuck them if this is the only way that they can win. I really am hoping that the Obama camp is aware and can do something with that 66 million to stop it.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 02:41 PM
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7. The extra checkbox issue was Ohio, but there have been....
...absentee ballot applications with bad addresses sent to Democrats in Florida.
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 02:44 PM
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9. gotcha n/t
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 02:39 PM
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3. My Dad received a similar mailing from McCain too -- in NC.
He's going to take it to the local Democratic HQ and see if they can get it investigated properly.


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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 02:51 PM
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11. Is he a Democrat?
Just curious. Someone here on DU gave me a hard time about this, claiming this only hurt McCain, because he was sending them to folks his campaign thought would vote Republican.

Here there are lots of Democrats who vote Republican at the presidential level. I hope McCain hit all of them with these bogus mailings.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 03:00 PM
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18. Registered Independent, but votes Democratic and huge Obama supporter.
nt
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 06:27 PM
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34. they are targeting Obama supporters- esp Indies and Republicans - from donor lists
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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 09:35 PM
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35. Is it legal to use campaign finance data in this way?
Assuming that's where the data comes from originally?
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 08:44 PM
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36. from what i have read the lists are public- but deliberately screwing up voters
this shit should be a felony. i think it's easy for them to pretend it's just a mistake.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 02:40 PM
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4. A DUer posted about a similar bogus absentee ballot application in Florida...
...with the wrong return address.

The McCain campaign may want Democrats to think they can't vote because they sent for an absentee ballot which never arrived.
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Kermitt Gribble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 03:06 PM
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22. I'm in FL and also recieved an absentee ballot from McNasty.
I thought it was odd, since I'm registered Dem, threw it in the trash and didn't think much of it until reading the OP.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 02:40 PM
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5. This shit has to be stopped. Take these fuckers to court. This is
no series of "innocent errors."
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 02:41 PM
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6. That should read "ELECTION FRAUD".
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 02:41 PM
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8. Election fraud. The repukes are so very good at that.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 02:54 PM
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12. to bad it's not a formal charge!
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 02:59 PM
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16. If it could be considered mail fraud, that can be prosecuted
All we need is one honest mail inspector.
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 03:47 PM
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31. I think it's racketeering and authorities should look to RICO prosecutions.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 02:55 PM
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13. We need a federal law against anyone but the state governments...
...mailing absentee ballot applications.

We need to stop these slimy attempts to disenfranchise Democrats.
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DemoRabbit Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 02:59 PM
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17. I AGREE!
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 02:57 PM
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14. grrrr
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 03:00 PM
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19. The good news is that they are being watched this year
and fraud is being exposed before the elections.
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electron_blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 02:57 PM
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15. Why is McCain's campaign sending absentee voter forms in the first place?
Why isn't that handled by local election officials? I can't find the answer to that question in the article.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 03:17 PM
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24. Exactly. . . IT SHOULD BE AGAINST THE LAW!
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 03:23 PM
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26. Apparently, the law allows anyone to mail out an application...
...for an absentee ballot.

The law should be changed to only allow state governments to do that.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 03:01 PM
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20. Goppers must find old habits hard to break.




Has anyone seen Katherine Harris in Wisconsin lately? :shrug:

Hell, given that they're not too bright .... maybe they're
still playing from the same Y2K script?


















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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 03:02 PM
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21. Just sent out to CNN as a news tip.
Doubt they do a story but it never hurts to try and push this.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 03:17 PM
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23. Good idea.
I just followed you on that.

http://www.cnn.com/feedback/tips/




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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 03:24 PM
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27. Good job! (eom)
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Stuart G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 03:23 PM
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25. Very important...catch them at it and charge the assholes.....
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 03:26 PM
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28. These aren't actual absentee ballots, just applications to receive one.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 04:02 PM
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32. Millions of Democrats may think that they can't vote on Election Day because...
...they applied for an absentee ballot which didn't arrive.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 03:31 PM
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29. Toss McCan't's lame ass into jail. Let him rot there until after the election.
:nuke:
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 03:44 PM
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30. The wording in that blog is misleading and a lie
"absentee voter forms from the McCain campaign that -- if used -- could cause their votes to be ignored."

There's no way to cast a vote that will be ignored in that mailer.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 04:04 PM
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33. The mailers can keep Democrats who want to vote from voting...
...they may think that they're not allowed to vote at the polls because they applied for an absentee ballot which never arrived.
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