Veterans organizations don't care....

[Bigmack]

... apparently, that the Repubs are screwing veterans.

This was on DU earlier today...

"Before the 2006 congressional elections, Disabled American Veterans published a list of how members of Congress voted on veterans legislation. The DAV rates each member of Congress from 0 - 100 on supporting "the interests of American veterans." I looked down the DAV's list of Republicans and their ratings, and I was overcome with revulsion when I saw just how much they do not care about veterans. John McCain's score for 2005 was 25 out of 100. In 2006, it was worse: he got a 20. It took my breath away. When it comes to caring for American veterans, John McCain and the Republicans are a total sellout."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=post&forum=389
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I was wondering if the other veterans organizations rated Congress members.

Went to VFW and American Legion and searched all over the sites...no ratings. Just position statements by the candidates. The "issues" areas just talk about how their group helped get legislation passed.

I know the VFW and Legion are right-wing, but you'd think they'd at least let their members know who is screwing them.

[Elwood P Dowd]

1. My post last night.

John McCain and his fellow republicans hate us old veterans.

How else can you explain this?

http://www.votesmart.org/issue_rating_detail.php?r_id=1...


Before the 2006 congressional elections, Disabled American Veterans published a list of how members of Congress voted on veterans legislation. The DAV rates each member of Congress from 0 - 100 on supporting "the interests of American veterans." I looked down the DAV's list of Republicans and their ratings, and I was overcome with revulsion when I saw just how much they do not care about veterans. John McCain's score for 2005 was 25 out of 100. In 2006, it was worse: he got a 20. It took my breath away. When it comes to caring for American veterans, John McCain and the Republicans are a total sellout.

284 Republican congressmen and senators were rated by the DAV for 2005. This was when the Republicans controlled both the House and Senate Veterans Affairs Committee, so don't ever tell me that Larry Craig and Steve Buyer were overly concerned about our needs. The highest score the DAV gave any Republican was 83. No Republican had a 100 rating, none were in the nineties. None in the seventies, one at 60 and six at 50. That's a total of eight Republicans--out of 284--that supported veterans' issues more than 50% of the time. That's a whopping 2.8% of all the Republicans in the Congress. 200 Republican got 0 ratings!! Thus, 70.4% of the Republican members of Congress got zero ratings from the DAV when it came to truly supporting America's veterans.

In 2005, Barack Obama was rated at 92. In 2006, Obama was an 80. The DAV rated 239 Democrats on how they voted on veterans' issues in 2005. 154 were rated by the DAV at 100. That's 64.4% of the Democrats in the Congress, versus 0% of the Republicans. Thirteen Democratic members of the House Veterans' Affairs Committee were rated by the DAV in 2005. Nine were rated at 100, three were at 80, and one was at 60, the lowest rating of any Democrat in the Congress. Of the twelve Republicans on the House Committee who were rated, eleven were rated at zero, one was rated at 20. Thus, the average Democrat on the House Committee was rated at 92; the average Republican was rated at 1.66. In the Senate Veterans Affairs Committee, the average score of the eight Republicans on the Committee in 2005 was a lowly 40.7, while the five Democrats' and the one Independent's average was 92.

Here's what McCain has done for veterans recently:

● Did not support new GI bill legislation because he thought it was too generous and would result in soldiers choosing to go to school instead of reenlisting. This bill passed 75-22 and McCain was one of three Senators who didn't show up to vote. Only after the bill was attached to the war funding request of the Bush administration, did McCain vote for the Webb bill. All 22 votes against the bill were by Republicans.
● Voted against providing at least $19 billion for military health facilities, paid for by eliminating tax cuts for the wealthy.
● Voted against providing $2.8 billion to increase veterans' medical care.
● Voted against establishing a $1 billion trust fund to provide improvements to health facilities that treat veterans and military personnel paid for by allowing dividends and capital gains tax breaks, for those with incomes greater than $1 million, to lapse.
● Voted against increasing medical services to veterans by $1.5 billion in 2007, paid for by closing corporate tax loopholes.
● In April 2006, McCain was one of 13 Senators to vote against $430 million for medical services for VA outpatient care and treatment for veterans. Despite his vote against, it passed overwhelmingly, 84-13. All 13 voting against were Republicans.




Disabled American Veterans Rating 2005

State Office District Name Party Rating

AK U.S. House At-Large Donald Young Republican 0
AK U.S. Senate Sr Ted Stevens Republican 33
AK U.S. Senate Jr Lisa Murkowski Republican 42
AL U.S. House 1 Josiah Bonner Republican 0
AL U.S. House 2 Terry Everett Republican 0
AL U.S. House 3 Michael Rogers Republican 0
AL U.S. House 4 Robert Aderholt Republican 0
AL U.S. House 5 Robert Cramer Democratic 40
AL U.S. House 6 Spencer Bachus Republican 0
AL U.S. House 7 Artur Davis Democratic 100
AL U.S. Senate Sr Richard Shelby Republican 33
AL U.S. Senate Jr Jefferson Sessions Republican 33
AR U.S. House 1 Robert Berry Democratic 80
AR U.S. House 2 Victor Snyder Democratic 100
AR U.S. House 3 John Boozman Republican 0
AR U.S. House 4 Mike Ross Democratic 80
AR U.S. Senate Sr Blanche Lincoln Democratic 92
AR U.S. Senate Jr Mark Pryor Democratic 92
AZ U.S. House 1 Richard Renzi Republican 0
AZ U.S. House 2 Trent Franks Republican 0
AZ U.S. House 3 John Shadegg Republican 0
AZ U.S. House 4 Ed Pastor Democratic 100
AZ U.S. House 6 Jeff Flake Republican 0
AZ U.S. House 7 Raúl Grijalva Democratic 100
AZ U.S. Senate Sr John McCain Republican 25
AZ U.S. Senate Jr Jon Kyl Republican 42
CA U.S. House 1 Michael Thompson Democratic 60
CA U.S. House 2 Walter Herger Republican 0
CA U.S. House 3 Daniel Lungren Republican 0
CA U.S. House 4 John Doolittle Republican 0
CA U.S. House 5 Doris Matsui Democratic 100
CA U.S. House 6 Lynn Woolsey Democratic 80
CA U.S. House 7 George Miller Democratic 100
CA U.S. House 8 Nancy Pelosi Democratic 100
CA U.S. House 9 Barbara Lee Democratic 80
CA U.S. House 10 Ellen Tauscher Democratic 100
CA U.S. House 13 Fortney Stark Democratic 80
CA U.S. House 14 Anna Eshoo Democratic 100
CA U.S. House 15 Michael Honda Democratic 100
CA U.S. House 16 Zoe Lofgren Democratic 100
CA U.S. House 17 Sam Farr Democratic 100
CA U.S. House 18 Dennis Cardoza Democratic 60
CA U.S. House 19 George Radanovich Republican 0
CA U.S. House 20 Jim Costa Democratic 60
CA U.S. House 21 Devin Nunes Republican 0
CA U.S. House 23 Lois Capps Democratic 100
CA U.S. House 24 Elton Gallegly Republican 0
CA U.S. House 25 Howard McKeon Republican 0
CA U.S. House 26 David Dreier Republican 0
CA U.S. House 27 Brad Sherman Democratic 100
CA U.S. House 28 Howard Berman Democratic 100
CA U.S. House 29 Adam Schiff Democratic 100
CA U.S. House 30 Henry Waxman Democratic 80
CA U.S. House 31 Xavier Becerra Democratic 100
CA U.S. House 32 Hilda Solis Democratic 100
CA U.S. House 33 Diane Watson Democratic 100
CA U.S. House 34 Lucille Roybal-Allard Democratic 100
CA U.S. House 35 Maxine Waters Democratic 80
CA U.S. House 36 Jane Harman Democratic 80
CA U.S. House 38 Grace Napolitano Democratic 100
CA U.S. House 39 Linda Sánchez Democratic 100
CA U.S. House 40 Edward Royce Republican 0
CA U.S. House 41 Jerry Lewis Republican 0
CA U.S. House 42 Gary Miller Republican 0
CA U.S. House 43 Joe Baca Democratic 100
CA U.S. House 44 Ken Calvert Republican 0
CA U.S. House 45 Mary Bono Mack Republican 0
CA U.S. House 46 Dana Rohrabacher Republican 0
CA U.S. House 47 Loretta Sanchez Democratic 80
CA U.S. House 49 Darrell Issa Republican 0
CA U.S. House 51 Bob Filner Democratic 80
CA U.S. House 52 Duncan Hunter Republican 0
CA U.S. House 53 Susan Davis Democratic 100
CA U.S. Senate Sr Dianne Feinstein Democratic 92
CA U.S. Senate Jr Barbara Boxer Democratic 92
CO U.S. House 1 Diana DeGette Democratic 100
CO U.S. House 2 Mark Udall Democratic 100
CO U.S. House 3 John Salazar Democratic 60
CO U.S. House 4 Marilyn Musgrave Republican 0
CO U.S. House 6 Tom Tancredo Republican 0
CO U.S. Senate Sr Wayne Allard Republican 33
CO U.S. Senate Jr Ken Salazar Democratic 92
CT U.S. House 1 John Larson Democratic 80
CT U.S. House 3 Rosa DeLauro Democratic 100
CT U.S. House 4 Christopher Shays Republican 20
CT U.S. Senate Sr Christopher Dodd Democratic 92
CT U.S. Senate Jr Joseph Lieberman Independent Democrat 75
DE U.S. House At-Large Michael Castle Republican 0
DE U.S. Senate Sr Joseph Biden Democratic 92
DE U.S. Senate Jr Thomas Carper Democratic 92
FL U.S. House 1 Jeff Miller Republican 0
FL U.S. House 2 Allen Boyd Democratic 80
FL U.S. House 3 Corrine Brown Democratic 100
FL U.S. House 4 Ander Crenshaw Republican 0
FL U.S. House 5 Virginia Brown-Waite Republican 0
FL U.S. House 6 Clifford Stearns Republican 0
FL U.S. House 7 John Mica Republican 0
FL U.S. House 8 Ric Keller Republican 0
FL U.S. House 10 C. W. Bill Young Republican 0
FL U.S. House 12 Adam Putnam Republican 0
FL U.S. House 14 Connie Mack Republican 0
FL U.S. House 15 David Weldon Republican 0
FL U.S. House 17 Kendrick Meek Democratic 100
FL U.S. House 18 Ileana Ros-Lehtinen Republican 0
FL U.S. House 19 Robert Wexler Democratic 100
FL U.S. House 20 Debbie Wasserman Schultz Democratic 100
FL U.S. House 21 Lincoln Diaz-Balart Republican 0
FL U.S. House 23 Alcee Hastings Democratic 100
FL U.S. House 24 Tom Feeney Republican 0
FL U.S. House 25 Mario Diaz-Balart Republican 0
FL U.S. Senate Sr Bill Nelson Democratic 92
FL U.S. Senate Jr Melquiades Martinez Republican 25
GA U.S. House 1 Jack Kingston Republican 0
GA U.S. House 2 Sanford Bishop Democratic 100
GA U.S. House 3 Lynn Westmoreland Republican 0
GA U.S. House 5 John Lewis Democratic 100
GA U.S. House 6 Thomas Price Republican 0
GA U.S. House 7 John Linder Republican 0
GA U.S. House 8 James Marshall Democratic 60
GA U.S. House 9 Nathan Deal Republican 0
GA U.S. House 11 Phil Gingrey Republican 0
GA U.S. House 12 John Barrow Democratic 60
GA U.S. House 13 David Scott Democratic 100
GA U.S. Senate Sr C. Saxby Chambliss Republican 42
GA U.S. Senate Jr John Isakson Republican 42
HI U.S. House 1 Neil Abercrombie Democratic 100
HI U.S. Senate Sr Daniel Inouye Democratic 92
HI U.S. Senate Jr Daniel Akaka Democratic 92
IA U.S. House 3 Leonard Boswell Democratic 60
IA U.S. House 4 Thomas Latham Republican 0
IA U.S. House 5 Steve King Republican 0
IA U.S. Senate Sr Charles Grassley Republican 33
IA U.S. Senate Jr Thomas Harkin Democratic 92
ID U.S. House 2 Michael Simpson Republican 0
ID U.S. Senate Sr Larry Craig Republican 42
ID U.S. Senate Jr Michael Crapo Republican 42
ID Governor Clement Otter Republican 0
IL U.S. House 1 Bobby Rush Democratic 100
IL U.S. House 2 Jesse Jackson Democratic 100
IL U.S. House 3 Daniel Lipinski Democratic 80
IL U.S. House 4 Luis Gutierrez Democratic 100
IL U.S. House 5 Rahm Emanuel Democratic 100
IL U.S. House 7 Danny Davis Democratic 100
IL U.S. House 8 Melissa Bean Democratic 60
IL U.S. House 9 Janice Schakowsky Democratic 100
IL U.S. House 10 Mark Kirk Republican 0
IL U.S. House 11 Gerald Weller Republican 0
IL U.S. House 12 Jerry Costello Democratic 100
IL U.S. House 13 Judy Biggert Republican 0
IL U.S. House 15 Timothy Johnson Republican 20
IL U.S. House 16 Donald Manzullo Republican 0
IL U.S. House 18 Ray LaHood Republican 0
IL U.S. House 19 John Shimkus Republican 0
IL U.S. Senate Sr Richard Durbin Democratic 92
IL U.S. Senate Jr Barack Obama Democratic 92
IN U.S. House 1 Peter Visclosky Democratic 100
IN U.S. House 3 Mark Souder Republican 0
IN U.S. House 4 Stephen Buyer Republican 0
IN U.S. House 5 Dan Burton Republican 0
IN U.S. House 6 Mike Pence Republican 0
IN U.S. Senate Sr Richard Lugar Republican 33
IN U.S. Senate Jr Evan Bayh Democratic 92
KS U.S. House 1 Jerry Moran Republican 0
KS U.S. House 3 Dennis Moore Democratic 60
KS U.S. House 4 Todd Tiahrt Republican 0
KS U.S. Senate Sr Samuel Brownback Republican 42
KS U.S. Senate Jr Pat Roberts Republican 50
KY U.S. House 1 Edward Whitfield Republican 0
KY U.S. House 2 Ron Lewis Republican 0
KY U.S. House 4 Geoff Davis Republican 0
KY U.S. House 5 Harold Rogers Republican 0
KY U.S. House 6 Albert Chandler Democratic 80
KY U.S. Senate Sr Mitch McConnell Republican 33
KY U.S. Senate Jr Jim Bunning Republican 33
LA U.S. House 2 William Jefferson Democratic 100
LA U.S. House 3 Charles Melancon Democratic 60
LA U.S. House 4 James McCrery Republican 0
LA U.S. House 5 Rodney Alexander Republican 0
LA U.S. House 7 Charles Boustany Republican 0
LA U.S. Senate Sr Mary Landrieu Democratic 92
LA U.S. Senate Jr David Vitter Republican 42
LA Governor Bobby Jindal Republican 0
MA U.S. House 1 John Olver Democratic 100
MA U.S. House 2 Richard Neal Democratic 100
MA U.S. House 3 James McGovern Democratic 100
MA U.S. House 4 Barney Frank Democratic 100
MA U.S. House 6 John Tierney Democratic 100
MA U.S. House 7 Edward Markey Democratic 100
MA U.S. House 8 Michael Capuano Democratic 100
MA U.S. House 9 Stephen Lynch Democratic 100
MA U.S. House 10 William Delahunt Democratic 40
MA U.S. Senate Sr Edward Kennedy Democratic 92
MA U.S. Senate Jr John Kerry Democratic 92
MD U.S. House 1 Wayne Gilchrest Republican 0
MD U.S. House 2 C.A. Dutch Ruppersberger Democratic 100
MD U.S. House 5 Steny Hoyer Democratic 100
MD U.S. House 6 Roscoe Bartlett Republican 0
MD U.S. House 7 Elijah Cummings Democratic 100
MD U.S. House 8 Christopher Van Hollen Democratic 100
MD U.S. Senate Sr Barbara Mikulski Democratic 92
MD U.S. Senate Jr Benjamin Cardin Democratic 100
ME U.S. House 1 Thomas Allen Democratic 100
ME U.S. House 2 Michael Michaud Democratic 80
ME U.S. Senate Sr Olympia Snowe Republican 50
ME U.S. Senate Jr Susan Collins Republican 50
MI U.S. House 1 Bart Stupak Democratic 100
MI U.S. House 2 Peter Hoekstra Republican 0
MI U.S. House 3 Vernon Ehlers Republican 0
MI U.S. House 4 David Camp Republican 0
MI U.S. House 5 Dale Kildee Democratic 100
MI U.S. House 6 Frederick Stephen Upton Republican 0
MI U.S. House 8 Mike Rogers Republican 0
MI U.S. House 9 Joseph Knollenberg Republican 0
MI U.S. House 10 Candice Miller Republican 0
MI U.S. House 11 Thaddeus McCotter Republican 0
MI U.S. House 12 Sander Levin Democratic 100
MI U.S. House 13 Carolyn Kilpatrick Democratic 100
MI U.S. House 14 John Conyers Democratic 100
MI U.S. House 15 John Dingell Democratic 100
MI U.S. Senate Sr Carl Levin Democratic 92
MI U.S. Senate Jr Debbie Stabenow Democratic 92
MN U.S. House 2 John Kline Republican 0
MN U.S. House 3 James Ramstad Republican 20
MN U.S. House 4 Betty McCollum Democratic/Farmer/Labor 100
MN U.S. House 7 Collin Peterson Democratic/Farmer/Labor 60
MN U.S. House 8 James Oberstar Democratic/Farmer/Labor 100
MN U.S. Senate Sr Norm Coleman Republican 50
MO U.S. House 1 William Lacy Clay Democratic 100
MO U.S. House 2 W. Todd Akin Republican 0
MO U.S. House 3 John Russell Carnahan Democratic 100
MO U.S. House 4 Ike Skelton Democratic 80
MO U.S. House 5 Emanuel Cleaver Democratic 100
MO U.S. House 6 Samuel Graves Republican 0
MO U.S. House 7 Roy Blunt Republican 0
MO U.S. House 8 Jo Ann Emerson Republican 20
MO U.S. House 9 Kenny Hulshof Republican 0
MO U.S. Senate Sr Christopher Bond Republican 33
MS U.S. House 2 Bennie Thompson Democratic 100
MS U.S. House 3 Charles Pickering Republican 0
MS U.S. House 4 Gene Taylor Democratic 60
MS U.S. Senate Sr Thad Cochran Republican 33
MS U.S. Senate Jr Roger Wicker Republican 0
MT U.S. House At-Large Dennis Rehberg Republican 0
MT U.S. Senate Sr Max Baucus Democratic 92
NC U.S. House 1 George Butterfield Democratic 100
NC U.S. House 2 Bob Etheridge Democratic 100
NC U.S. House 3 Walter Beaman Jones Republican 60
NC U.S. House 4 David Price Democratic 100
NC U.S. House 5 Virginia Foxx Republican 0
NC U.S. House 6 John Coble Republican 0
NC U.S. House 7 Mike McIntyre Democratic 60
NC U.S. House 8 Robert Hayes Republican 0
NC U.S. House 9 Sue Myrick Republican 0
NC U.S. House 10 Patrick McHenry Republican 0
NC U.S. House 12 Melvin Watt Democratic 100
NC U.S. House 13 Ralph Miller Democratic 100
NC U.S. Senate Sr Elizabeth Dole Republican 42
NC U.S. Senate Jr Richard Burr Republican 33
ND U.S. House At-Large Earl Pomeroy Democratic-NPL 100
ND U.S. Senate Sr Kent Conrad Democratic-NPL 92
ND U.S. Senate Jr Byron Dorgan Democratic-NPL 92
NE U.S. House 1 Jeff Fortenberry Republican 0
NE U.S. House 2 Lee Terry Republican 0
NE U.S. Senate Sr Charles Hagel Republican 42
NE U.S. Senate Jr E. Benjamin Nelson Democratic 92
NH U.S. Senate Sr Judd Gregg Republican 42
NH U.S. Senate Jr John Sununu Republican 42
NJ U.S. House 1 Robert Andrews Democratic 100
NJ U.S. House 2 Frank LoBiondo Republican 0
NJ U.S. House 3 H. James Saxton Republican 0
NJ U.S. House 4 Christopher Smith Republican 40
NJ U.S. House 5 E. Scott Garrett Republican 0
NJ U.S. House 6 Frank Pallone Democratic 100
NJ U.S. House 7 Michael Ferguson Republican 0
NJ U.S. House 8 William Pascrell Democratic 100
NJ U.S. House 9 Steven Rothman Democratic 100
NJ U.S. House 10 Donald Payne Democratic 100
NJ U.S. House 11 Rodney Frelinghuysen Republican 0
NJ U.S. House 12 Rush Holt Democratic 100
NJ U.S. Senate Sr Frank Lautenberg Democratic 92
NJ U.S. Senate Jr Robert Menendez Democratic 80
NJ Governor Jon Corzine Democratic 83
NM U.S. House 1 Heather Wilson Republican 40
NM U.S. House 2 Stevan Pearce Republican 0
NM U.S. House 3 Tom Udall Democratic 100
NM U.S. Senate Sr Pete Domenici Republican 42
NM U.S. Senate Jr Jeff Bingaman Democratic 92
NV U.S. House 1 Shelley Berkley Democratic 100
NV U.S. House 3 Jon Porter Republican 20
NV U.S. Senate Sr Harry Reid Democratic 92
NV U.S. Senate Jr John Ensign Republican 42
NV Governor James Gibbons Republican 20
NY U.S. House 1 Timothy Bishop Democratic 100
NY U.S. House 2 Steve Israel Democratic 100
NY U.S. House 3 Peter King Republican 0
NY U.S. House 4 Carolyn McCarthy Democratic 100
NY U.S. House 5 Gary Ackerman Democratic 100
NY U.S. House 6 Gregory Meeks Democratic 100
NY U.S. House 7 Joseph Crowley Democratic 100
NY U.S. House 8 Jerrold Nadler Democratic 100
NY U.S. House 9 Anthony David Weiner Democratic 100
NY U.S. House 10 Edolphus Towns Democratic 100
NY U.S. House 12 Nydia Velázquez Democratic 100
NY U.S. House 13 Vito Fossella Republican 20
NY U.S. House 14 Carolyn Maloney Democratic 100
NY U.S. House 15 Charles Rangel Democratic 100
NY U.S. House 16 José Serrano Democratic 100
NY U.S. House 17 Eliot Engel Democratic 100
NY U.S. House 18 Nita Lowey Democratic 100
NY U.S. House 21 Michael McNulty Democratic 100
NY U.S. House 22 Maurice Hinchey Democratic 100
NY U.S. House 23 John McHugh Republican 0
NY U.S. House 25 James Walsh Republican 0
NY U.S. House 26 Thomas Reynolds Republican 0
NY U.S. House 27 Brian Higgins Democratic 100
NY U.S. House 28 Louise McIntosh Slaughter Democratic 100
NY U.S. House 29 John Kuhl Republican 0
NY U.S. Senate Sr Charles Schumer Democratic 92
NY U.S. Senate Jr Hillary Clinton Democratic 92
OH U.S. House 1 Steven Chabot Republican 0
OH U.S. House 3 Michael Turner Republican 0
OH U.S. House 7 David Lee Hobson Republican 0
OH U.S. House 8 John Boehner Republican 0
OH U.S. House 9 Marcy Kaptur Democratic 100
OH U.S. House 10 Dennis Kucinich Democratic 80
OH U.S. House 12 Patrick Tiberi Republican 0
OH U.S. House 14 Steven LaTourette Republican 0
OH U.S. House 15 Deborah Pryce Republican 0
OH U.S. House 16 Ralph Regula Republican 0
OH U.S. House 17 Timothy Ryan Democratic 100
OH U.S. Senate Sr George Voinovich Republican 25
OH U.S. Senate Jr Sherrod Brown Democratic 100
OH Governor Ted Strickland Democratic 100
OK U.S. House 1 John Sullivan Republican 0
OK U.S. House 2 David Daniel Boren Democratic 60
OK U.S. House 3 Frank Lucas Republican 0
OK U.S. House 4 Tom Cole Republican 0
OK U.S. Senate Sr James Inhofe Republican 33
OK U.S. Senate Jr Thomas Allen Coburn Republican 42
OR U.S. House 1 David Wu Democratic 100
OR U.S. House 2 Greg Walden Republican 0
OR U.S. House 3 Earl Blumenauer Democratic 100
OR U.S. House 4 Peter DeFazio Democratic 100
OR U.S. House 5 Darlene Hooley Democratic 100
OR U.S. Senate Sr Ron Wyden Democratic 92
OR U.S. Senate Jr Gordon Harold Smith Republican 42
PA U.S. House 1 Robert Brady Democratic 100
PA U.S. House 2 Chaka Fattah Democratic 100
PA U.S. House 3 Philip English Republican 0
PA U.S. House 5 John Peterson Republican 0
PA U.S. House 6 Jim Gerlach Republican 40
PA U.S. House 9 Bill Shuster Republican 0
PA U.S. House 11 Paul Kanjorski Democratic 80
PA U.S. House 12 John Murtha Democratic 60
PA U.S. House 13 Allyson Schwartz Democratic 100
PA U.S. House 14 Michael Doyle Democratic 80
PA U.S. House 15 Charles Dent Republican 20
PA U.S. House 16 Joseph Pitts Republican 0
PA U.S. House 17 Tim Holden Democratic 100
PA U.S. House 18 Tim Murphy Republican 0
PA U.S. House 19 Todd Platts Republican 0
PA U.S. Senate Sr Arlen Specter Republican 83
RI U.S. House 1 Patrick Kennedy Democratic 100
RI U.S. House 2 James Langevin Democratic 100
RI U.S. Senate Sr John Reed Democratic 92
SC U.S. House 1 Henry Brown Republican 0
SC U.S. House 2 Addison Wilson Republican 0
SC U.S. House 3 J. Gresham Barrett Republican 0
SC U.S. House 4 Robert Inglis Republican 0
SC U.S. House 5 John Spratt Democratic 100
SC U.S. House 6 James Clyburn Democratic 100
SC U.S. Senate Sr Lindsey Graham Republican 42
SC U.S. Senate Jr Jim DeMint Republican 33
SD U.S. House At-Large Stephanie Herseth Sandlin Democratic 80
SD U.S. Senate Sr Tim Johnson Democratic 92
SD U.S. Senate Jr John Thune Republican 42
TN U.S. House 2 John Duncan Republican 0
TN U.S. House 3 Zach Wamp Republican 0
TN U.S. House 4 Lincoln Davis Democratic 60
TN U.S. House 5 Jim Cooper Democratic 60
TN U.S. House 6 Bart Gordon Democratic 60
TN U.S. House 7 Marsha Blackburn Republican 0
TN U.S. House 8 John Tanner Democratic 60
TN U.S. Senate Sr Lamar Alexander Republican 50
TX U.S. House 1 Louis Gohmert Republican 0
TX U.S. House 2 Ted Poe Republican 20
TX U.S. House 3 Samuel Johnson Republican 0
TX U.S. House 4 Ralph Hall Republican 20
TX U.S. House 5 Jeb Hensarling Republican 0
TX U.S. House 6 Joe Barton Republican 0
TX U.S. House 7 John Culberson Republican 0
TX U.S. House 8 Kevin Brady Republican 0
TX U.S. House 9 Al Green Democratic 100
TX U.S. House 10 Michael McCaul Republican 0
TX U.S. House 11 K. Michael Conaway Republican 0
TX U.S. House 12 Kay Granger Republican 0
TX U.S. House 13 William Thornberry Republican 0
TX U.S. House 14 Ronald Paul Republican 40
TX U.S. House 15 Rubén Hinojosa Democratic 100
TX U.S. House 16 Silvestre Reyes Democratic 100
TX U.S. House 17 Thomas Edwards Democratic 100
TX U.S. House 18 Sheila Jackson Lee Democratic 100
TX U.S. House 19 Randy Neugebauer Republican 0
TX U.S. House 20 Charles Gonzalez Democratic 100
TX U.S. House 21 Lamar Smith Republican 0
TX U.S. House 24 Kenny Marchant Republican 0
TX U.S. House 25 Lloyd Doggett Democratic 100
TX U.S. House 26 Michael Burgess Republican 0
TX U.S. House 27 Solomon Ortiz Democratic 80
TX U.S. House 28 Henry Cuellar Democratic 100
TX U.S. House 29 Raymond Green Democratic 100
TX U.S. House 30 Eddie Bernice Johnson Democratic 80
TX U.S. House 31 John Carter Republican 0
TX U.S. House 32 Peter Sessions Republican 0
TX U.S. Senate Sr Kay Hutchison Republican 50
TX U.S. Senate Jr John Cornyn Republican 33
UT U.S. House 1 Rob Bishop Republican 0
UT U.S. House 2 Jim Matheson Democratic 60
UT U.S. House 3 Chris Cannon Republican 0
UT U.S. Senate Sr Orrin Hatch Republican 33
UT U.S. Senate Jr Robert Bennett Republican 17
VA U.S. House 2 Thelma Drake Republican 0
VA U.S. House 3 Robert Scott Democratic 100
VA U.S. House 4 James Randy Forbes Republican 0
VA U.S. House 5 Virgil Goode Republican 20
VA U.S. House 6 Robert Goodlatte Republican 0
VA U.S. House 7 Eric Cantor Republican 0
VA U.S. House 8 James Moran Democratic 100
VA U.S. House 9 Frederick Boucher Democratic 100
VA U.S. House 10 Frank Wolf Republican 0
VA U.S. House 11 Thomas Davis Republican 0
VA U.S. Senate Sr John Warner Republican 42
VT U.S. Senate Sr Patrick Leahy Democratic 92
VT U.S. Senate Jr Bernard Sanders Independent 100
WA U.S. House 1 Jay Inslee Democratic 100
WA U.S. House 2 Rick Larsen Democratic 100
WA U.S. House 3 Brian Baird Democratic 100
WA U.S. House 4 Doc Hastings Republican 0
WA U.S. House 5 Cathy McMorris-Rodgers Republican 0
WA U.S. House 6 Norman Dicks Democratic 100
WA U.S. House 7 James McDermott Democratic 100
WA U.S. House 8 David George Reichert Republican 20
WA U.S. House 9 Adam Smith Democratic 100
WA U.S. Senate Sr Patty Murray Democratic 92
WA U.S. Senate Jr Maria Cantwell Democratic 92
WI U.S. House 1 Paul Ryan Republican 0
WI U.S. House 2 Tammy Baldwin Democratic 100
WI U.S. House 3 Ronald James Kind Democratic 100
WI U.S. House 4 Gwendolynne Moore Democratic 100
WI U.S. House 5 James Sensenbrenner Republican 0
WI U.S. House 6 Thomas Petri Republican 0
WI U.S. House 7 David Ross Obey Democratic 100
WI U.S. Senate Sr Herbert Kohl Democratic 92
WI U.S. Senate Jr Russell Feingold Democratic 92
WV U.S. House 1 Alan Mollohan Democratic 80
WV U.S. House 2 Shelley Capito Republican 20
WV U.S. House 3 Nick Joe Rahall Democratic 100
WV U.S. Senate Sr Robert Byrd Democratic 92
WV U.S. Senate Jr John Rockefeller Democratic 92
WY U.S. House At-Large Barbara Cubin Republican 0
WY U.S. Senate Sr Michael Enzi Repub

[w8liftinglady]

2. yhis has been the topic of my last 20 ltte

people say they support the troops until the time comes...speak out,VETS..you have the credibility

[UTUSN]

3. The by-word at the VFW is "We (vets) tend to do better with (Rethugs)" meaning

compensation (cash) and benefits, which irritates the Hades out of me. In 2000 I complained to the headquarters over VFW and other vets politicizing their medals for Shrub. In '04, I complained on the phone to the editor of the VFW magazine for his slurs against KERRY's service while elevating Shrub. He denied a bit, then did a silent hang-up on me while I was talking, so I called the D.C. headquarters and talked it out about the editor. I broke off with a web ring of Vietnam shipmates. They are just wingnuts, and I don't get how they consistently support Rethug chickenhawks over Dem vets.

[csziggy]

4. Obama is rated at 80 and Biden at 75 - so how can they be called "anit-military"?

http://www.votesmart.org/issue_rating_detail.php?r_id=3483

[w8liftinglady]

5. you have to gear their stuff so that they DO care

I even got my hard-core dad on board

[Sukie]

6. I believe Vote Vets.org

and Iraqi Veterans against the war are two groups that rate the politicians on their votes.

http://ivaw.org/faq
http://www.votevets.org/index_html

But I know for sure that they are fighting for veterans rights.

[w8liftinglady]

7. even my right-wing dad sees the corruption

[lonestarnot]

8. Vets for Peace are letting them know! And I believe vets are supporting Obama 5:1.

[w8liftinglady]

9. there are several that DO care

veterans for america
veterans for peace

[happyslug]

10. All three groups tend to be Right, but the DAV and VFW are to the left of the Legion.

Disabled American Veteran's (DAV) 2008 legislature report (i.e. what the DAV supported and why and how the various bills prevailed).
http://www.dav.org/voters/documents/2008_annual_report.pdf

What the Disabled American Veterans (DAV) is supporting today:
http://capwiz.com/dav/home/

Veterans of Foreign Wars (VFW) web site:
http://www.vfw.org/
Some background:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veterans_of_Foreign_Wars

The American Legion:
http://www.legion.org/homepage.php
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Legion

These are the big three Veteran Groups in the US. The American Legion is considered the most right wing. The American Legion posts were spring broads for much of the anti-union and anti-communist movement during the 1919-1921 period. Of the above three it has the oldest Congressional charter being given it in 1919 by the GOP controlled Congress elected in November 1918 that also rejected the League of Nations and the Versailles treaty negotiated by President Wilson.

The VFW was only given a charter by the US Congress in 1936, but had been formed in 1914 from two earlier groups dating from the Spanish American War. One of the reason for the two predecessor organizations to the VFW being form, was the clear fact of how the largest Veteran Organization of that time period, The Grand Army of the Republic, had been nothing but a branch of the GOP since 1865. This tendency was so bad that as the Civil War Vets died off from old age, instead of giving their assets to some other Veteran group, formed the "Sons of the GAR" to take over the Assets of the GAR starting the 1890s (The Sons of the GAR still exists but is not a real player in politics today, more a social club then a Political player the GAR had been and what the VFW, the American Legion and the DAV are today). The southern equivalent of the GAR, the Sons of the Confederacy was just a bad and suffered the same fate as the GAR. The VFW and their predecessor organization did NOT want they organization to be a branch of one or the other party, but to fight for the rights of Veterans, thus the VFW distanced itself from both Civil War Organizations (By demanding service in a "Foreign War"). The VFW tried to maintain this independence to this day, and tried to concentrate its activity for the benefits of all Veterans NOT as a political wing of any party.

The VFW refusal to be anything other then a pillar of support for Veterans was first shown when the VFW, unlike the American Legion, did NOT participate in the Palmer raids of 1919-1921 period. This was confirmed, when the VFW organization was used to gain support for moving up the granting of the Bonus Congress promised to WWI vets. The bonus had been promised in 1918 but to be paid in 1947. The Bonus army wanted the payment moved up from 1947 to 1932 do to the onset of the Great Depression (The Veterans needed the money in 1932 more then they thought they would need it in 1947). While the VFW did NOT officially participate in the Bonus Army of 1932, the Bonus Army was formed up through VFW posts and Membership lists. In contrast the American Legion participation in the Bonus Army was one of Hostility (American Legion post OPPOSED the whole concept of marching on Washington to demand the Bonus). The Veterans of Foreign Wars (VFW) supported the idea of advancing the payment of the Bonus, but the National VFW decided the political correct way to handle the subject of a March on Washington was NOT to officially support the March, but leave each post decide by themselves how much support, if any, the posts would give to the Marchers (many if not most posts supported the March or at least permitted the organizers of the March to use their posts to form up the March). Notice the difference in how the Legion and the VFW handled the issue of the Bonus Army (as oppose to the Bonus itself which even the Legion came around to advocating it be paid in 1934 NOT 1947). These two incidents shows the difference that existed up till the Cold War between the Legion and the VFW, with the VFW considered to the left of the much larger American Legion.

The affect of the above can be seen to this day. In Democratic areas you tend to have Veterans of Foreign Wars (VFW), in GOP controlled areas you tend to have American Legions. While both organizations say they say out of Politics and trend to both parties equally, the fact that Veterans of Foreign Wars (VFW) are stronger in Democratic Areas tend to make the VFW more Democratic, the fact the American Legion tends to be stronger in GOP areas tend to keep the American Legion GOP. A side affect is where a split occurs between these two groups the split is VFW=Democratic Party, American Legion=GOP.

Now one of the problems BOTH organizations had was the aging of the WWII population at the same time the Vietnam Veterans started to join. Even after the end of the Vietnam War, you still had more WWII veterans in the US then you had Vietnam Veterans (Do to the much larger troop commitment we had during WWII). Thus both groups in the 1970s and 1980s tend to push agendas in Congress to help older veterans more then veterans hitting middle age (i.e. Greater support for things affecting the WWII veterans then Vietnam Veterans). This was complicated by the fact in 1942 FDR ENDED enlistments into the Armed Forces, after 1942 you were DRAFTED, you could NOT enlist (Once drafted you may have a choice of what service you wanted to do, but if not enough people volunteer for certain slots you were drafted into that slot). This lead to two changes in both organization, First come 1946 the WWII veterans outnumbered the older WWI veterans in both organizations and that lasted till the 1990s (The Vietnam vets did NOT start to outnumber the WWII vets till the 1990s as the WWII vets started to die off). Thus from 1946 till the 1990s the WWII vets dominated BOTH organization and this sometime lead to complaints that both organizations were favoring the WWII vets over the Vietnam vets. The second problem was given it was almost impossible to avoid the Draft during WWII, you served no matter who you were. This made many upper class income men WWII veterans and they brought with them all of their class background. This was an asset to both the Legion and the VFW until the Vietnam vets started to join. The Upper Middle Class were generally able to keep their sons out of serving in Vietnam, thus the new Vets of the 1970s tended to be working class background as opposed to the more mixed background of the WWII Vets. This had a habit of turning off a lot of Vietnam vets from joining BOTH organizations and the people who did join tended to be more to the right then other members of their generation (i.e. the Working Class did NOT join even the VFW in the numbers their fathers had joined the VFW after the end of WWII AND you tended to have a higher Percentage of right wingers joining both organizations then you had after WWII). Both of these trends tended to shift both organizations to the right.

Please also note that from 1975 till 2000 the country as a whole moved to the Right (Thorough since 2000 the country has moved to the left, there is some indications that the move started before 2000 maybe as early as 1996, but the switch seems to have been a slow switch but one that is accelerating today, faster then the Switch to the Right of the 1970s and 1980s). Both the VFW and the American Legion have also moved to the right since 1975 but the VFW has started to switch to the left, but it is a gradual shift, more a refusal to move further right then a true shift, but the VFW greater support in Democratic areas is part of this shift).

Now the DAV is even more to the left then the VFW, the DAV shows this by avoiding the issue of the current military (Something the Legion makes a priority and the VFW gives strong support to) and concentrating on the needs of Veterans. The GOP tries to appease the VFW and DAV by making verbal promises (The Legion is happy with such promises, the VFW and DAV tend to want action more then words). This reflects the fact that like the Farm Bureau (Another Congressional Charter Group Chartered in 1919 by that post WWI GOP Congress) the Legion has always viewed itself as part of the GOP. I like to note the American Legion and the Farm Bureau were chartered to counter the power of earlier organizations that were independent of the GOP (The VFW in the case of the Legion, the Grange in the case of the Farm Bureau). As such the Farm Bureau and the Legion have always supported the GOP except when it was clear the GOP would lose, then both would back whoever was going to win. This was NOT true of the VFW or the Grange, both were independent of the Democratic Party, and supported the Democratic party where the Democratic Party wanted to help the Veterans (In case of the VFW) and the Small Farmer (In the Case of the Grange). The Grange had been the spring board for the Free Silver and Populist parties of the late 1800s, which ended up shifting many former GOP voters to the Democratic Party, and the GOP did NOT want that to occur again so came up with the Farm Bureau and the American Legion (To offset the ability of the VFW to do what the Grange had done in the late 1800s, a mechanism for people to switch parties AND to push the Democratic party to the Left on Social and Economic Issues).

My point is to point out there is a difference between these three groups. We should encourage people to drop out of groups that are nothing but branches of the GOP (i.e. the Farm Bureau and the American Legion) and join groups that can be (and have been in the past) part of the Democratic Coalition (i.e. the Grange and the Veterans of Foreign Wars). We should also support those organizations who are concern about one liberal issue, i.e. the Disabled American Veterans (DAV) and the DAV's support for disabled Veterans. Such Disabled Veterans need our help and the DAV is the best spring board for such help.

For more on the Bonus Army:
http://www.inlibertyandfreedom.com/bm.htm
http://www.vfwpost845.org/history.htm

Here is an 1932 article from Time Magazine that shows the Difference between the VFW and the Legion as to the Bonus and the Bonus Army. The Article clearly shows the Legion supporting the 1932 payment of the Bonus BUT only after the VFW had been behind it for years AND it had became clear it was going to happen (i.e. the Legion jumped on the band wagon hoping to control it for the GOP):
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,744323,00.html

[unhappycamper]

13. Pretty much everybody is to the Left of the Legion.

I speak from personal experience.

[happyslug]

16. List of Presidents who were VFW Members

As to the VFW. Theodore Roosevelt starts the list, FDR did NOT serve so could NOT be a member. Truman is the only WWI veteran who joined the VFW (Eisenhower also served in WWI, but is better known for his WWII service). Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon and Bush Sr were all members of the VFW for WWII service. Reagan seems NOT to have been a member (But he is listed in the list of President published by the VFW, but clearly showing no membership). Carter served during peace time and thus NOT eligible. Clinton did not serve. Bush jr seems NOT to be a member for his National Guard Service does not count.

http://vfwhawaii.org/p00970/html/presidents.htm

This site says Gerald Ford was also a member:
http://www.vfwpost7191.org/index.php?page=vfwhistory&intranet=18c94add89509f23d3335c9dd7912948

I can NOT find a cite that says which President was a member of the American Legion. The Gerald Ford Library says he jointed BOTH the American Legion and the VFW after he was discharged at the end of WWII, and in a Google Search one of the results refers to a Speech Nixon made in 1969 saying he had been a member of the Legion for many years (but I was unable to get to the Actual Cite, seemed to be on the Google Search engine but a bad cite). I can NOT find any other President was was a member of the Legion (Through most Politicians would join both if they could for Political reasons so I suspect more were, but given the Legions GOP connections most if not all of the Democrats may NOT have joined any Legion Posts). I mention this for previously I have found that Truman and FDR had been member of the Grange, the more liberal farm society that the Farm Bureau, chartered by the same GOP controlled Congress that gave the Legion a Federal Charter, was suppose to replace. Thus many Democrats may not have joined the Legion do to the fact the Legion was so tied in with the GOP, while Republicans thought nothing of joining both if there was any political advantage is joining either.

On Ford's joining the American Legion:
http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/generic/VP_Gerald_Ford.htm

The American Legion even has a post in the Nixon Library:
http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/generic/VP_Gerald_Ford.htm


Another piece of Evidence of how far right is the Legion, The House Un-american Activities Committee (HUAC) issued a list of "Communist Front" organizations in 1944, this was given to several different Right wing group including the leadership of the American Legion (But the VFW is NOT mentioned).
http://www.writing.upenn.edu/~afilreis/50s/hoover.html

I mention the above for we must know our enemies, and by knowing not only WHO they are but WHAT they are. The VFW and the DAV are potential allies unlike the American Legion which will oppose anything a Democrat supports for the Legion is part of the GOP.

[BlooInBloo]

11. They're basically just white supremecists - no surprise.

[happyslug]

15. In my area the VFW is larger, and I do NOT see them as White Supremacists.

One Pittsburgh VFW is noted for being named after William H Carney, a member of the 54th Massachusetts and a winner of the Congressional Medal of Honor. The Post so likes who it is named after that several years ago the post asked a black member of the City of Pittsburgh inning, some years ago they asked one of the Black member of the City Council to dress up as the Medal of Honor Winner to "play" the role of the Medal of Honor Winner. The City Councilmen was shocked that the post had been named after a Blackman, he had through the post had been named after a white man (the post is noted for having a Statute of a WWI Dough-boy in front of it). The city Councilmen took up the offer and portrayed the Medal of Honor Winner. Thus the VFW, as a general rule, NOT a racist organization (Racist may be members but so does other organization, including some people on DU).

More on William H. Carney:
http://www.historynet.com/william-h-carney-54th-massachusetts-soldier-and-first-black-us-medal-of-honor-recipient.htm

[BlooInBloo]

17. Not the one on the southside, I'm betting.

:rofl:

[happyslug]

18. The South Side of Pittsburgh is a combination of old Ethnic Groups and Yuppies.

The Blacks tended to be in the Hill District of Pittsburgh and St Clair Village and the Arlington parts of Pittsburgh. Post 46 is in Lawrenceville, which is on the Allegheny River Side of Pittsburgh.

For you non-Pittsburghers, the South Side of Pittsburgh is between the South Side Slopes (The Monongahela Escapement that makes up MT Washington) and the Monongahela River. Allentown is on top of Mt Washington but up Arlington Avenue AWAY from the Monongahela Incline and what most people call Mt Washington. St Village is a Public Housing Project in the Allentown Section of Pittsburgh (St Clair Village is named for the last part of Lower St Clair Township that was annexed into the City of Pittsburgh around 1900. Prior to 1900 Lower St Clair Township had lost most of its territory to other, newer townships including Mt Lebanon and Scott Townships and the Boroughs of Dormont, Beechview and Brookline/West Liberty (The last two were also annexed into the City of Pittsburgh BUT after they became independent Boroughs).

Pittsburgh itself is centered where the Allegheny and Monongahela Rivers come together to form the Ohio. Do to the rivers, Pittsburgh has six routes from Downtown eastward. The furtherest south is to cross the Monongahela and follow it east via Carson Street via South-side.

The next one is NOT to cross the river, but go along the River between the Bluff and the River to Hazelwood along Second Avenue.

The third way is to go further inland from the Monongahela and take Fifth Avenue to Oakland (This is the most popular way if you are walking, biking or taking public transportation, you avoid the two high spots, the Bluff where Duquesne University is AND the Hill District). This route touches the lowest ends of the Hill District but avoids most of the Hill.

The Fourth way is to go along Center Street right over the top of the Hill District (This is the largest single black area in Pittsburgh itself).

The fifth way is to go along the Allegheny River via the Strip District. This places the Allegheny River Escapement between you and the Hill District (I am ignoring Baum Blvd which climbs the Escapement and enters Oakland avoiding the Hill District for it is a route only built in the 1930s for automobiles). This route turn up the hillside as the terrain starts to go down after you have passed both the Hill District and most of Oakland.

The Sixth way is to cross the Allegheny River and take the River road to Etna.

There are some variation in the above routes, but it covers most of the routes. Beside Allentown and the Hill District, Manchester is another "black" dominated area (Manchester is north of the Ohio River just as West of Downtown Pittsburgh).

So to response to BlooInBloo, it the VFW that did the honor is in Lawrenceville not the South Side, but I have to address the implication of racism in the South Side. The South Side has a lot of people with a lot of roots in the area, and do not like any new comers (White or Blacks). At the same time the South Side has become a boom area do to the fact it is near enough to the University of Pittsburgh for the Collage crown to walk, drive, bike or take the bus to, yet far enough away that it is a "new" area compared to the older Collage oriented area in Oakland itself (Where the City of Pittsburgh is located). On top of that the South Side has seen an huge influx of Yuppies who work Downtown and have moved into town homes along the River Front (Which after WWII was an rough neighborhood and thus the housing was torn down years ago to break up that rough neighborhood and now with the bad elements gone, has become a center for Yuppies).

Now The South Side, prior to the early 1980s, was dependent on the Jones and Laughlin Steel plant. Ir closed down in 1982 and it took the City 15 years to get the abandoned plant torn down. The closing of the plant cost a lot of people on the South Side their jobs. Raised tensions but it has slowly been resolved with the movement of the Collage Students to the South-side, both to go to the now thriving Carson Street scenes AND the cheaper rents then in Oakland. With the opening of the new Shops between the Hot Metal Bridge and the rest of the South Side (Replacing some of the area previously occupied by the old J&L Steel Plant) the South Side is Hoping again, for the first time since the mills started to have problems in the early 1970s. With this improvements in overall financial condition most racial conflicts have died down or disappeared. They had been some prior to the 1970s but over the last 40 years as the Steel Industry abandoned the South Side, the South Side has recovered and tensions have disappeared (more people are dependent on helping each other then fighting). Thus I do NOT see any racial tension in the South Side, I will NOT say there is no racial tension, but with the recent boom most people are concerned about the rents and having to move to find affordable housing then any racial conflict.

List of Pittsburgh Neighborhoods:
http://www.city.pittsburgh.pa.us/cp/maps/pittsburgh.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Pittsburgh_neighborhoods

[Waiting For Everyman]

12. The SO's are complicit in screwing them.

(service organizations)

[Hubert Flottz]

14. The GOP don't spit on veterans...

they shit on them.