cspan caller: 'Liberals will never understand the military cause they never serve'

[Philosoraptor]

[RagAss]

1. CSPAN really needs to block calls from Mental Health facilities.

[Philosoraptor]

3. Conservatism is a mental disorder.

[Sebastian Doyle]

55. Well, in the words of a troll who ate pizza just this morning...

Im always proud to be a free thinking INDEPENDANT Christian American.

The mental disorder there is self-evident, as every word of the statement is untrue. They aren't Christians, because their actions are 100% contradictory to the teachings of Jesus Christ. They are neither free thinking nor "independant" because they repeat the shit they hear from Hannity and Limpballs. I doubt they're proud, or they wouldn't embarrass themselves so openly, and since they endorse the treason committed against this country for the last 8 years, it's even a stretch to call them "Americans". Clearly the elevator doesn't go anywhere near the top floor in such people's heads, and even the stairs are out of order most of the time.

[GreenPartyVoter]

53. LOL

[Solly Mack]

2. Yeah? snort

[tekisui]

4. Conservatives will never understand intelligence because they never think.

[eShirl]

5. conservatives can be startlingly ignorant. n/t

[Name removed]

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[Breeze54]

7. WTF?? "below the surface is a kernel of truth..... "

Is this some sort of *R exchange program today?!

:banghead:

[GreenPartyVoter]

54. Must be. My dad served in the Navy and the reserves. He is a Green (although

he started Repub and then went indy, but that transformation happened while he was serving.)

[Philosoraptor]

8. ...uh....HUH?

[RagAss]

13. Yeh....We tend to shoot ourselves to win Purple Hearts !!!

ALERTED

[Lyric]

14. We have plenty of Democrats who've served in the military.

As for your statement that says, "There is nothing more effective politically than a Democrat who has served in the military..."

Right. Tell that to John Kerry.

[eShirl]

15. "the party would rather feel superior intellectually than actually try to address swing vote group

concerns"

exsqueeze me???? WTF are you talking about

maybe you should start a new thread if you want to change the topic

[MiniMe]

17. Tell that to John Kerry who's service the wingnuts mocked

Down to wearing those stupid purple heart bandaids at the convention.

[Brewman_Jax]

19. Kernel of false

most liberals I know have served, most neo-cons I know haven't served, and wouldn't consider it. Not to mention the list of present-day republican politicians that haven't served.

[demmiblue]

20. In Congress, there are more Democrats who have served our country.

[Solly Mack]

22. The "concern" is based on a lie..so I'll happily dismiss the concern

and address the lie.

Now, if that concern is legitimate, addressing the lie will remove the concern....but if that concern is bullshit (as I suspect), no manner of addressing the lie will suffice. Some people would much rather nurse their mock outrage than allow facts to get in the way of their ignorance.

How do I know the concern is based on a lie?

I've lived on various military posts for nearly 2 decades...and still do.

[independentpiney]

23. And the rep from the democrat party speaks again

not too obvious

[AllieB]

26. Thanks for playing.

Bye Bye.

[SammyWinstonJack]

29. What are you talking about?

:wtf:

[Caretha]

35. Actually, it's easy to dismiss your comments

What you posted is offensive and flies in the face of reality. Listen to Rush much? Because it obviously takes someone who is unable to think on their own to come up with such stupid right-wingnutty comments like that. You deserve an ass whipping.

I'm guessing you're the one who called C-Span.

[melody]

36. There's NO kernel of truth in this, are you kidding?

I think you took a wrong turn, sparky. The other board has fewer letters in it -- easier for the mentally impaired to get there.

[tinymontgomery]

41. I spent 23 f*** years in the Navy

served on 6 ships (14 years considered at sea), a year unaccompenied in Korea, 2 years with spec war etc. Screw this guy saying liberals don't serve. He can suck my you know what!

[Wickerman]

42. and I was having such a nice morning before I rush off to my veterans meeting...

:grr:

USAF 1984-1990

[WilmywoodNCparalegal]

45. Yeah, that worked really well for John Kerry!

:sarcasm:

[Danger Mouse]

46. i know that Bush, Cheney, and Reagan were greatly admired for the bravery of their service.

:eyes:

[rucky]

49. Hackett, Clark, Clelland, Kerry

lost, lost, lost, lost.

The opposition does not respect their military service, so your assumption about political effectiveness is wrong.

What it does show is that the GOP uses the military as yet another prop to attack us with, and they care more about party than country. Their double-standard never ceases to amaze me, and the only thing we can do is demonstrate which party has done more for veterans and which party has historically led our military and handled national defense more sensibly and effectively. So far we haven't been able to shake this stigma about defense because of C-Span callers and media heads parroting lies.

[hoosier_lefty]

9. like Ronald Raygun ?

or Dick Nixon



They didn't respect Kerry's service so why

should I respect McPlanecrasher ?

[Philosoraptor]

10. Or dick cheney and hundreds of other repubs who dodged the draft and want war

[Jennicut]

11. Yes, Kerry never served. Beau Biden is not in the national guard

Utter idiots.

[Philosoraptor]

12. Max Cleland didn't leave 3 limbs in Nam

[Wetzelbill]

16. Gee my cousin is liberal and he'll be going to Afghanistan soon

And he was in Iraq. Most people I know who have served are fairly liberal. Not everything is that black and white, and granted I am from an Indian reservation so most people are a little more liberal to begin with, whether they go in the military or not. But that's just stupid. Look at the Dems in Congress with military experience. Ted Kennedy. John Kerry. Joe Sestak. Joe Murphy. Jack Reed. There are more that's just off the top of my head and in a few seconds, of course. But Jimmy Carter and JFK were in the military too. Not to mention Dem voices like Wes Clark, and even Al Gore. So please, that's just stupid talk.

Duh the most obvious one. Jim Webb.

[WritersBlock]

18. Hmm.. would love to put that caller in a locked room with my 85-yo Dad for an hour.

That would be my 85-yo Dad who has voted Democratic all his life, and I do believe that would include the period of his service in WWII.

See if the caller has the balls to question Dad's service to his face. I think the answer would be a pretty conclusive "no."

[Breeze54]

24. Forget that... put him in with my 31 yr old liberal ex-OIF son !!

:P

That I'd like to see!

[HughBeaumont]

21. Uh . . . . yyyyyeah.

Neo-con warmonger military service:

* Dick Cheney: did not serve. Several deferments, the last by marriage. Investigated by the FBI for treason as head of Haliburton for secret deals with Libya and Iran, both terrorist enemies of the United States of America while those nations were under US sanctions for direct involvement in the deaths of US military personel and civilians. Put profit over patriotic duty to his country.

* Dennis Hastert: did not serve.

* Tom Delay: did not serve.

* John Bolton: did not serve.

* Roy Blunt: did not serve.

* Bill Frist: did not serve.

* Mitch McConnell: did not serve.

* Rick Santorum: did not serve.

* Trent Lott: did not serve.

* John Ashcroft: did not serve. Seven deferments to teach business.

* Jeb Bush: did not serve.

* Karl Rove: did not serve.

* Saxby Chambliss: did not serve. "Bad knee." The man who attacked Max Cleland's patriotism.

* Paul Wolfowitz: did not serve.

* Vin Weber: did not serve.

* Richard Perle: did not serve.

* Douglas Feith: did not serve.

* Eliot Abrams: did not serve.

* Richard Shelby: did not serve.

* Jon Kyl: did not serve.

* Tim Hutchison: did not serve.

* Christopher Cox: did not serve.

* Newt Gingrich: did not serve.

* Don Rumsfeld: served in Navy (1954-57) as flight instructor.

* George W. Bush: failed to complete his six-year National Guard; got assigned to Alabama so he could campaign for family friend running for U.S. Senate; failed to show up for required medical exam, disappeared from duty

* Ronald Reagan: due to poor eyesight, served in a non-combat role making movies.

* B-1 Bob Dornan: Consciously enlisted after fighting was over in Korea.

* Phil Gramm: did not serve.

* John McCain: Silver Star, Bronze Star, Legion of Merit, Purple Heart and Distinguished Flying Cross.

* John M. McHugh: did not serve.

* JC Watts: did not serve.

* Jack Kemp: did not serve. "Knee problem," although continued in NFL for 8 years.

* Dan Quayle: Journalism unit of the Indiana National Guard.

* Rudy Giuliani: did not serve.

* George Pataki: did not serve.

* Spencer Abraham: did not serve.

* John Engler: did not serve.

* Lindsey Graham: National Guard lawyer.

* Arnold Schwarzenegger: AWOL from Austrian army base.

Pundits and Preachers:

* Sean Hannity: did not serve.

* Rush Limbaugh: did not serve (4-F with a 'pilonidal cyst.')

* Bill O'Reilly: did not serve.

* Michael Savage: did not serve.

* George Will: did not serve.

* Chris Matthews: did not serve.

* Paul Gigot: did not serve.

* Bill Bennett: did not serve.

* Pat Buchanan: did not serve.

* John Wayne: did not serve.

* Bill Kristol: did not serve.

* Kenneth Starr: did not serve.

* Antonin Scalia: did not serve.

* Clarence Thomas: did not serve.

* Ralph Reed: did not serve.

* Michael Medved: did not serve.

* Charlie Daniels: did not serve.

* Ted Nugent: did not serve. (He only shoots at things that don't shoot back.)


Democrats:

* Richard Gephardt: Air National Guard, 1965-71.

* David Bonior: Staff Sgt., Air Force 1968-72.

* Tom Daschle: 1st Lt., Air Force SAC 1969-72.

* Al Gore: enlisted Aug. 1969; sent to Vietnam Jan. 1971 as an army journalist in 20th Engineer Brigade.

* Bob Kerrey: Lt. j.g. Navy 1966-69; Medal of Honor, Vietnam.

* Daniel Inouye: Army 1943-47; Medal of Honor, WWII.

* John Kerry: Lt., Navy 1966-70; Silver Star, Bronze Star with Combat V, Purple Hearts.

* Charles Rangel: Staff Sgt., Army 1948-52; Bronze Star, Korea.

* Max Cleland: Captain, Army 1965-68; Silver Star &Bronze Star, Vietnam. Triple amputee.

* Ted Kennedy: Army, 1951-53.

* Tom Harkin: Lt., Navy, 1962-67; Naval Reserve, 1968-74.

* Jack Reed: Army Ranger, 1971-1979; Captain, Army Reserve 1979-91.

* Fritz Hollings: Army officer in WWII; Bronze Star and seven campaign ribbons.

* Leonard Boswell: Lt. Col., Army 1956-76; Vietnam, DFCs, Bronze Stars, and Soldier's Medal.

* Pete Peterson: Air Force Captain, POW. Purple Heart, Silver Star and Legion of Merit.

* Mike Thompson: Staff sergeant, 173rd Airborne, Purple Heart.

* Bill McBride: Candidate for Fla. Governor. Marine in Vietnam; Bronze Star with Combat V.

* Gray Davis: Army Captain in Vietnam, Bronze Star.

* Pete Stark: Air Force 1955-57

* Chuck Robb: Vietnam

* Howell Heflin: Silver Star

* George McGovern: Silver Star &DFC during WWII.

* Bill Clinton: Did not serve. Student deferments. Entered draft but received #311.

* Jimmy Carter: Seven years in the Navy.

* Walter Mondale: Army 1951-1953

* John Glenn: WWII and Korea; six DFCs and Air Medal with 18 Clusters.

* Tom Lantos: Served in Hungarian underground in WWII. Saved by Raoul Wallenberg.

Now granted, there are also several Republican combat veterans in the Senate and House; and this list does not imply one is more or less of a person if they served in the military. Yet among the most war-happy Pukes that preach the whole "peace through STRENGTH" mantra and are so quick to toss tax money willy-nilly to any conflict under the sun (whether it's necessary or not), one will find many of them "had better things to do".

[Philosoraptor]

25. THANK YOU

[DiverDave]

27. Huh, I guess that DD214 I got was a fake.

and the time I spent in the 'Army' was just a dream.

[Turbineguy]

28. Who

dialed the phone number for that person?

[SammyWinstonJack]

30. Rove. nt

[tannybogus]

31. Instead of showing a caller's phone number, phones should list IQs. nt

[Turbineguy]

34. Good idea!

they should have a cut-off point to save some embarrassment. "Lower than Danny DeVito's inseam"

[MadrasT]

32. What an asshat. My family is FULL of veterans who vote D.

[TheCowsCameHome]

33. Another patient abusing his day-pass privileges.

[shadowknows69]

37. It's the make your own reality show!!!

Brought to you by the Republican party!!!

[Hubert Flottz]

38. When you understand the military you know when your are the

fukee and you know where the weenie is coming from.

[ladyVet]

39. Um, WRONG!*

Hey, dumbfuck caller, this liberal served 4 years in the US Air Force: 1977-81, locked and loaded for the Iran Hostage Crisis for the last 14 months of that service. So kiss my ass.


*If not abundantly clear, this is to that caller, not the OP. Carry on. :patriot:

[distantearlywarning]

40. I just had a conversation with my dad last night - my dad the Vietnam vet

He said he was voting for Obama because McCain-Palin was too dangerous.

[leeroysphitz]

43. So Gore Vidal is a conservative now?

[bulloney]

44. Unlike those Republicans who 'serve' like Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld...

I'm coming to the conclusion that being conservative means missing the part of your brain that processes reasoning.

Do these people look beyond the noses on their faces?

Do they believe everything that Limpballs, Insanity and the other RW mouthpieces spew daily?

[Vickers]

47. I will compare DD214's with any chickenhawk at any time.

Of course, they might have "misplaced" theirs.

:eyes:

[Danger Mouse]

48. Cspan caller: "I'm going to call into cspan and show how pathetically stupid I am."

[MrScorpio]

50. I missed a troll that said that I didn't serve?

Damn

[alarimer]

51. That's bullshit.

My boyfriend was in the MARINES for 20 years and he is as big a liberal as they come. Always has been too; it's not like he changed his mind over the years.

[lpbk2713]

52. Chickenhawk RWers have never seen a war they didn't like because it's 'good business'.

.... just as long as someone else's kids have to fight and die.

Chickenshitshawks never cease to amuse,
the way they talk one game and then play another.

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[truth2power]

56. So Cheney/Bush are liberals now?....

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :silly:

<snort> I crack myself up!