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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 09:11 AM
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My daughter, a HS senior, just sent me a text that her government teacher is conservative
Edited on Thu Sep-11-08 09:13 AM by Gman
she asked if she can tell her that Hitler was a Republic! I sent her a text back saying "Do it!" If she even looks at her crossways I'm going to come down on her ass hard!!

She texted back saying she said it's not true Republicans raise taxes on the poor and lower them on the rich.

I texted telling her to ask her if she believes in evolution!

She texted back saying teacher said McCain is PRO-CHOICE! And Obama is PRO-LIFE!

I texted back saying tell her she doesn't know what she's talking about and I'd back her up.

I texted telling my daughter to ask her teacher if she thinks Bush and Cheney will ever be tried for war crimes and crimes against humanity!

I think I'll call the office here in the next few minutes and set up a parent teacher conference next week! This will be fun!

I'll be damned if I'm going to put up with that shit!
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 09:13 AM
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1. Are you drunk?
:rofl:
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 09:34 AM
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6. ...
:spray: :rofl:
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 09:24 AM
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4. Welcome to DU
I see that you have a Corps Globe and Anchor.

Are you in and if so, are you still serving?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 09:39 AM
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 09:56 AM
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18. many thanks to you and your son for your service!
:patriot:
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 09:59 AM
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19. Love you already. Welcome to DU. You'll find plenty of
military, and friends and family of military, here. Blessings to you and your son.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:06 AM
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24. Thanks for your service.
We could always use another vetran or two around here. Welcome to DU :hi:!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:10 AM
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:13 AM
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35. Makes you wonder, doesn't it?
Maybe you're supporting the wrong team...

I used to be a conservative too. Then I realized conservatives weren't what I thought they were and that I wasn't one of them.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:34 AM
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66. Well,
We are a Democratic site, and we try to keep this a place for Democratic views and opinions. You'll find that out soon enough I'm sure. And I have to tell you in all honesty, I detest just about everything the Republicians stand for, limiting our personal freedoms, catering almost exclusivlly to the rich monneyed intrests of the world, start wars but don't take care of the service men and women who fight them, drill here, drill now (when, let's be honest here, we use 25% of the worlds oil and have only 3% of the reserves so we can drill until we're blue in the face and it would not really do us a bit of good), more guns, less school. Gee, I could go on and on, but I won't.

If you served as you said you did, I thank you for that, and I'd love to encourage you to reconsider your political alliances and come on over to the side for the good of all Americans.

Semper Fi
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The Hope Mobile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 09:39 AM
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7. Hmmm . . . Do you mean that in a good way or a bad way?
Curious
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:02 AM
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 09:44 AM
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10. Hi, Americanunderground.
Welcome to DU. :hi:


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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:06 AM
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:08 AM
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25. Sorry, supporting McCain is not allowed on DU
Edited on Thu Sep-11-08 10:16 AM by IWantAnyDem
You need to read the rules of the road.

Edited to add a direct link to the rules

And to quote the appropriate section:

We ban conservative disruptors who are opposed to the broad goals of this website. If you think overall that George W. Bush is doing a swell job, or if you wish to see Republicans win, or if you are generally supportive of conservative ideals, please do not register to post, as you will likely be banned.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:19 AM
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48. Hey! They guy's not disrupting!
He wants to converse civily. That's fantastic. Who knows? He may end up voting Obama.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:23 AM
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:33 AM
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65. No, he is disrupting. Read the rules
Edited on Thu Sep-11-08 10:36 AM by IWantAnyDem
We ban conservative disruptors who are opposed to the broad goals of this website. If you think overall that George W. Bush is doing a swell job, or if you wish to see Republicans win, or if you are generally supportive of conservative ideals, please do not register to post, as you will likely be banned.

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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:09 AM
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26. You support McCain? So you want more of what we've had these past 8 yrs?
Because that is what you will get with McSame. :shrug:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:12 AM
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:13 AM
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34. You need to read the rules. You are NOT allowed to support ANY candidate
Edited on Thu Sep-11-08 10:17 AM by IWantAnyDem
other than Democratic nominees here.

Those are the rules.

Edited to add a direct link to the rules

And to quote the appropriate section:

We ban conservative disruptors who are opposed to the broad goals of this website. If you think overall that George W. Bush is doing a swell job, or if you wish to see Republicans win, or if you are generally supportive of conservative ideals, please do not register to post, as you will likely be banned.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:15 AM
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38. What did you expect?
:shrug: We don't support republicans here. It's DEMOCRATICUNDERGROUND.
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:11 AM
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No Offense Dude, and I'm a veteran as well, but
If you support McCain, this site is not for you.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:16 AM
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:18 AM
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45. This is a private site Read the rules
Edited on Thu Sep-11-08 10:18 AM by IWantAnyDem
Direct link to the rules

The appropriate section:

We ban conservative disruptors who are opposed to the broad goals of this website. If you think overall that George W. Bush is doing a swell job, or if you wish to see Republicans win, or if you are generally supportive of conservative ideals, please do not register to post, as you will likely be banned.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:36 AM
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68. Hey! Give it a break! Will ya'?
Jeez... settle down.

The guy's not disrupting.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:40 AM
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72. Yes, the guy IS disrupting
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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:20 AM
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49. Yeah
I guess that this little 7 post flameout was a good "attempt" at an exchange of ideas, but sadly I doubt that you're long for this website.
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:22 AM
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50. Nope, no free exchange of views here
Why is that sad? There are plenty of web sites that allow both parties to post. There are plenty of web sites that allow Republicans only. This is a message board/blog for Democrats, and no, we don't allow support for McCain here.

I don't blame America for the world's woes, and it's absured that you'd think I do without knowing the first damn thing about me.

Spend a little time here, and you can read allllll about McSame's glaring warts. They're not hard to see.

I doubt you'll be around long enough for me to bother arguing about the glaring inaccuracies of the ear-mark numbers you've pulled out of your ass.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:27 AM
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:31 AM
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62. I'm Sorry Our Site Here Doesn't Meet with your approval
Yes, I know exactly what my icon means. I somehow doubt it means what you think it means though.

I'd be happy to debate with you at another side, but this one is not for debating with Republicans. Believe me, we fight among ourselves plenty.

If you are supporting McCain, I promise that you and I will disagree on what the right direction for the country is.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:32 AM
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64. IF you want to get into a debate about politics
tehre are plenty of sites out there for that, too.

Otherwise, you're wasting Skinner's bandwidth posting here and are not long for this site. I imagine your pizza delivery is on the way.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:23 AM
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52. You are on the wrong site, pal.
:eyes:
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:23 AM
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54. Welcome. Can you elaborate on Obama blaming "America for the
worlds (sic) woes"? I believe that Obama has accurately pointed out that this has been the current administration's screw ups that has contributed to the "world's woes." Remember - America is not George W Bush and Dick Cheney. We are their bosses, not the other way around.
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:27 AM
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57. Do you wanna know what's even sadder? John McCain, who is
a pathetic little man who has embraced the same group of scumbags that insulted his service, his wife, his daughter, you name it back in 2000. Why the words honor and McCain are still used in the same sentence is beyond me.
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colorado thinker Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:29 AM
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61. Americanunderground, I hope you are still there.
Obama does not blame America for all the world's woes, nor do most if not all of the posters on this site.

We do blame the failed policies of the current administration, look around you, the evidence of their incompetence is everywhere. Damaged foreign relations (we all live on the same planet of course), decaying infrastructure, increased terrorism from misunderstanding other cultures, nearly broken economy, it goes on and on.

Fox News is NOT fair and balanced, nor is most of the mainstream media. The beauty of this site is that there are thousands of interested, concerned patriotic Americans who continually seek the truth, outside of the programmed "news".

Stay awhile and read. You'll see some of that hate of course, but you'll see much more love and concern for this great country of ours. And yes, both sides have to come together to fix things before it's too late.



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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:16 AM
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42. I'm Curious
Welcome to DU...and I would welcome your answer on the following.

If you are a supporter of McCain, how do you square his votes against veterans? Or his support of the continued draining of our military's strength and morale in an occupation that has made this country more vulnerable, not less from future attacks.

Yes, we are all Americans and I have a tremendous respect for all who have served and are serving...and they deserve a military that isn't used as a political or corporate tool.

Best of luck to you...
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:19 AM
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:23 AM
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53. You Think Maybe the Billons Per Week
War in Iraq might have something to do with that deficit?
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:28 AM
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60. That's the problem, he apparently doesn't think, for himself, that is.
:eyes:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:35 AM
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:37 AM
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69. No, there is no hate here. There are rules here.
You are not permitted to use this message board to work for the defeat of the Democratic Party nominee for any political office. If you wish to work for the defeat of any Democratic candidate in any General Election, then you are welcome to use someone else's bandwidth on some other website.

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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:40 AM
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73. That coming from a supporter of a party who calls everyone to the left of
Joe Lieberman a traitor. To quote Obama "spare me". BTW Fxed....I mean Fox is not a news organization. It's the propaganda arm of the republican party.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:28 AM
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59. He's Favored Fighting A War On A Credit Card
Where do you think the money for this war for profit is being funded from? It's money being borrowed that you and I and our chidlren will be paying for years to come. It's weakened the dollar...and thus weakened this country. So to reduce the growing defecit, would you favor a tax increase?

Never has a "war" (despite never being delcared) been fought where the rich were given a tax break. And this doesn't take into account the billions that have vanished into Iraqi coffers, the billions currently being made and the contractors who have profited from the outsourcing of jobs the military used to be responsible for. Agree that this isn't quite cost effective.

You still haven't addressed the veterans matter...with all the billions being spent, shouldn't there be money made available to those who have made sacrafices?
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:41 AM
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74. That is why he isn't voting for the war, right?
And why he is favor of cutting more corporate taxes and more tax cuts for the rich right? Because those bills are funded. How do you square that?
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 09:49 AM
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13. Unfortunately that teacher is not one in a million
My daughter had the same type of teacher for her government class also. It did teach her to be very thourough with her work.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 09:54 AM
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16. Welcome to DU
I doubt you'll last long.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:11 AM
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31. Supporting McSame, he won't last long here.
:wtf:
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:12 AM
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32. Yup, first couple fo posts and he's already violating the rules
Sad to say, he should ahve read the rules before opening up an account.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:17 AM
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43. Welcome!
My dad was a Marine. You and all the other fine members of the Marine Corps are the best.
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 09:24 AM
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3. You're texting your daughter while she's in class?
I wouldn't bring that up when you talk to the principal.

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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:18 AM
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44. That's what I was thinking
And can she not handle the teacher's misinformation on her own? Better by far that way.

She could find herself in hot water - not for arguing with her teacher, but for texting and otherwise using that phone in class!
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:23 AM
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79. Seriously. I mean, Dude!
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:32 AM
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88. It kinda says something that the daughter thought it was OKAY to txt during class.
My dad would have come to the school as well. LOOKING FOR ME SO HE COULD KICK MY ASS.
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:34 AM
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90. no kidding - actually, I wouldn't even have a phone at that age
:D
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:48 AM
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94. Exactly. And not a great show of maturity on the parent's part, either.
Sheesh.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 09:28 AM
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5. You encourage your kid texting in class?
you need to stop worrying about republicans and focus on your kids educational priorities for a bit.
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endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 09:42 AM
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9. Maybe it was during her lunch break?
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 09:46 AM
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12. OP's kid was smart enough to recognize Right Wing Lies
I'd say the OP is doing fine on that score. Although texting in the classroom is probably not recommended.
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Salviati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:22 AM
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51. As a teacher myself
I'd say that condoning texting in class is teaching your kid to be pretty darn rude. No matter how much of an asshat the teacher seems to be.
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 09:44 AM
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11. You text your kid while she is in class?

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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:15 AM
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39. I insist on being able to stay in contact with my daughter
that's the way it is. If I need to know something, I don't want rules getting in the way.
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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:19 AM
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47. Couldn't she tell you all this
after school? And the results would still be the same? You're teaching your daughter that rules don't apply to her. You are also teaching her that "OMG!!!!! I CAN B RUDE CUZ RULZ DUN APPLY TO ME!" (
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:32 AM
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63. I can understand being in contact for emergencies, but this is weird parental hoovering.

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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:38 AM
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70. Yup, and I'm going to "hoover" on a Republican ass!
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:41 AM
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75. Whatever floats your boat.
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Zywiec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:49 AM
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76. Yeah, who needs rules
Or maybe you cool texting people don't need rulzz.

Does she text while driving, I mean you have to stay in contact with her at all times, right? :eyes:
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:22 AM
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78. This is just too stupid
YOU are encouraging your child to break school rules so you can feed her info to debate her teacher?

First of all, she needs to learn to do that on her own. You can talk to her about issues when she is not in class but during class is disruptive not only to her, but the students around her.

Sounds like you are co-dependent - you need to be her parent not her text buddy.
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:42 AM
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91. If I were your daughters teacher, I'd kick her out.
Luckily, I teach at the college level, so your kid isn't old enough to be one of my students yet.

My students know my rules well. Anyone caught texting or using their cellphone during class will be ejected without discussion, and will go into the rolls as being NOT PRESENT during that class (which can really suck if you're caught 10 minutes before the end of a 3 hour lecture). After 5 absences, students are dropped from my class. The only exceptions are for those who can PROVE that the call or message was for a serious emergency (injured child, death in the family, that sort of thing).

Texting in class is not acceptable, and it's a waste of the teachers time. When I see a student using a phone in class, my first impression is that the student is one of "those" kids, who is just looking to get by and doesn't actually care enough to pay attention in class.
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sammytko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:11 PM
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108. I wish you taught at our school..
This texting in class is getting out of hand.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:49 AM
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95. "I don't want rules getting in the way."
What a lovely example for your daughter. I used to teach freshman comp, and I assure you if a student of mine pulled out a phone and began texting, the phone would be confiscated. Period. It's utterly disrespectful to the teacher.

And if you decided to challenge me on that, I assure you you would not come away from the fight a winner.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:40 PM
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109. Oy
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2CheeseEnchiladas Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 09:51 AM
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14. Back when i was in HS
I had a ultra right wing government teacher. It turns out that he was fired for molesting a freshman.
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 09:52 AM
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15. Suggest to the Principle that the US History lessons use Howard Zinn's book...
A Peoples History Of The United States....

or Declarations Of Independence....by Howard Zinn
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 09:55 AM
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17. Hitler was a Republican?
Edited on Thu Sep-11-08 10:02 AM by NeedleCast
Nooooooooooooooo. You lose.

Also, confronting a teacher about his/her politics WHILE YOUR DAUGHTER IS IN THAT CLASS is pretty stupid.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:28 AM
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83. Another example of
EPIC FAIL!
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:00 AM
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20. so like she said, "no way", then like I said, "nuh uh"..
and like she said, "nooooo way", and like I said, "waaaaay".

please spare us, okay?
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 12:24 PM
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99. Your post
is made of win, sir. :rofl:
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ItNerd4life Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 12:38 PM
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100. lol. Very nicely done. /nt
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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:03 AM
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22. Texting your daughter
while she's in class.

If I were the teacher, I'd be begging to set up a Parent-Teacher conference.


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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:09 AM
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27. Immature and disruptive. Way to go.
:eyes:
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:30 AM
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86. Making us look good.
Maybe she can refuse to sell her a bowl, too. :rofl:
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:11 AM
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29. Hitler was a person, not a republic
:crazy:
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:13 AM
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36. Republic(an)... they like to call us the Democrat Party
I call them the Republic party. Sounds vulgar.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:26 AM
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56. Then you advised your daughter to say something naive and factually incorrect
:shrug:
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 12:50 PM
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101. What don't you get?
Edited on Thu Sep-11-08 12:51 PM by Gman
My daughter baited the teacher and she took the bait...

Jeez... We don't raise any kids around here that keep their heads down and stay shutup.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 02:07 PM
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113. I get it completely
The teacher is a ditz, and you're teaching your daughter to pick fights with ditzes by throwing out bits of information that aren't true.
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:11 AM
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30. What can you expect from a school that allows nonstop texting in class?
They're probably lucky to find anybody who would teach in that uncontrolled of an environment.

On the positive side the kids won't be paying attention to this (or any other) teacher because they'll be texting or listening to MP3s or checking their email on their new iPhones.
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:14 AM
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37. Texting in class? Big no no.
Sorry, but that really shouldn't be happening.
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dassix Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:16 AM
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40. one in a million...
teachers are in pursuit of academia, I would only assume most teachers possess intelligence...therefore who with intelligence wouldn't be on the left. Only makes sense! The mere fact that teachers read books and educate themselves on multiple fronts other than being a zombie and watching faux for the general amount of their intellectual insight, would only make them on the left side.

P.S. Obama Nation doesn't count :kick:

When you go so far to the right, everybody and everything is on the "left".
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:29 AM
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84. ...
Edited on Thu Sep-11-08 11:30 AM by Blue State Native
:silly:
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:38 AM
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71. You are encouraging your daughter to text in class? This teacher is disgusted.
I lower my students' grades for texting in class.

It's rude & interferes with learning.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:24 AM
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80. We teach our daughter to confront wrong head on
Edited on Thu Sep-11-08 11:24 AM by Gman
and that's what she did. If the teacher doesn't like the texting and then getting confronted over lies, she can get over it or get another job.

I'm goin' Republican huntin'!
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:29 AM
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85. Lies?
"Hitler was a Republican" is a lie. If I thought for a moment you were telling the truth I'd be concerned for your daughter, but this is some silly Mary-Sue fantasy bullshit.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:31 AM
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87. It's an exaggeration.
A canard.

Smart assery.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:52 AM
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96. "She can get over it or get another job."
Uh, not gonna happen. You'll be laughed out of the principal's office. And if you pursue it further, you'll be laughed out of the superintendent's office. And rightly so.
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Celeborn Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:11 PM
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107. Probably so.
The texting she might get away with. There was a lawsuit in our area and the parent won because a teacher confiscated a phone of a student. The parent bitched about it, etc. and proceeded to sue the school.
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:53 PM
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110. The teacher probably did something stupid
Like trashed the phone or sold it.

My oldest is in high school, and her campus has a no cellphones policy as well. They are only allowed in outdoor areas during the lunchbreak, and can't even be VISIBLE or POWERED ON the rest of the day. If a student is caught using a cellphone (talking or texting), carrying a cellphone, or if a cellphone rings in a backpack during class, it's taken away and will ONLY be returned to the parent*.

Parents are usually pretty unhappy when they have to drive down to the school to retrieve their kids cellphone, so it's rare for a student to have the problem more than once. I speak this one from experience. My daughter, who has had a cellphone since she was 10, had hers taken away on her second day in. I let them keep it for a week before I went down to pick it up, and told my kid flat out that the next time she did it I'd let them keep it until the end of the semester. She hasn't had a phone problem since.

I don't tolerate that kind of rudeness in my own classroom, and I'm certainly not going to let my kids behave that way in someone elses classroom.

* I should mention that this isn't just an anti-rudeness measure. Cell phone texting is a commonly used cheating tool and they have been fights coordinated using cellphones. The rules at my daughters school were tightened down after another incident a few years ago. One girl took a nearly-nude locker-room photo of another 14 year old girl that she didn't like and posted it to a MySpace page along with some very nasty comments about her. The school responded by banning cellphone usage anywhere on campus, except for OPEN AND PUBLIC areas during the lunch break. It's an understandable precaution.
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 12:58 PM
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103. You're Teaching Your Daughter to be a Dumbass
If you're going to encourage her to debate with her teachers (via text message, in the middle of class), at least try to get your facts correct.

Hitler was a Republican. Fucking brilliant.

And by brilliant, I mean stupid.
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:04 PM
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105. Well, you certainly don't teach her any manners.
Edited on Thu Sep-11-08 01:04 PM by Coventina
:eyes:
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tannybogus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:21 AM
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77. I would have taken away whatever she was using to text until the end of class.
I had very few rules when I taught because I couldn't remember them.Come to class on time; try to do all the work (even if its hard, give it a shot),

leave other people alone, pay attention(added subrule about texting and such because it wasn't what they should be doing.)She should have written down

all the idiotic ideas so that she could have checked on what was wrong with them. Then she could answer correctly and not throw out unsubstantiated ideas

like the teacher is doing. Hitler was not a Republican. Once you start down that road, nobody listens. Everybody just gets mad.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:24 AM
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81. Good for you.
Fuck the pearl clutchers.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:27 AM
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82. This is a wind-up.
The poster is full of shit.

"Hitler was a Republic." Ai yai yai.

If it's actually for real this is the most egregious helicopter mom nonsense ever, but I'm confident it's a drunken fantasy.
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:34 AM
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89. Hitler was a republic? Where was that located?
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:44 AM
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92. Seems to me that having an instructor with...
Seems to me that having an instructor with diametrically opposed political views is good thing as it allows additional perspectives that may not be available from friends and family.

That aside, it seems that the instructor's viewpoints on evolution are irrelevant to a civics/government class, and that stating Hitler is a Republican is disingenuous at best (unless one also believes that Stalin was a Democrat).


"I'll be damned if I'm going to put up with that shit!"
As merely a suggestion, try this scenario-- what if the instructor were a progressive liberal and the student was a Regan Republican-- would the parent still have the moral and intellectual right-of-way to state, "I'll be damned if I'm going to put up with that shit!"?
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:44 AM
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93. Wow, if I were your daughter's teacher, I'd want to set up a P/T conference with you right away
Just to chew your ass out for A: Texting your daughter in class and disrupting my classroom, and B: For feeding your daughter factually incorrect information. Hitler wasn't a Republican, that is a US political party. He was, in fact, a member of the National Socialist German Worker's Party. This was a fascist party, which is much more radical than the 'Pugs have ever thought about being, at least up until reacently. Furthermore, the teacher is also correct in stating that McCain is pro-choice. Up until this election cycle, he was indeed villified by the right for being pro choice throughout his career. He only started using the pro-life rhetoric recently in order to win over the RW fundies.

Sorry dude, but you're being an ass. You're being as bad as the radical RWer's who insist on only having a RW version of the curriculum taught in their child's school. Part of being in school, especially high school, is for the students to be exposed to all viewpoints. You are doing your daughter a huge disservice by trying to censor the teacher, and even further disservice to your daughter by trying to fight her battles for her. She's a big girl now and needs to learn to take care of herself in the rough and tumble world of public life. All you are doing is stunting her growth. What are you going to do when she gets to college and has to deal with a conservative poli-sci prof? Are you going to go chew him out too?

You really need to back the fuck off of this one and let your daughter deal with it. Oh, and brush up on your studies before you begin spewing garbage to your daughter. After all, it isn't you who will have to pay the price in shame and ridicule, it will be your daughter.
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:07 PM
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106. Awesome post! Thank you!
Edited on Thu Sep-11-08 01:08 PM by Coventina
:toast:
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 02:04 PM
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111. Great reply.
Helicopter parents annoy the heck out of me.

What are you going to do when she gets to college and has to deal with a conservative poli-sci prof? Are you going to go chew him out too?

Yeah, and I'd wish her luck with that. We occasionally get helicopter parents here at the college level, but they usually get knocked down pretty quickly by the cold, hard baseball bat of reality. My students are adults, and I will only discuss educational matters with them. I've only had parents come into my classroom or office to challenge my treatment of their kids three times in my career, and all three times they've left unhappy. My response is simple: "You are not my student, I do not discuss student matters with third parties, and I'm asking to you leave now. If you have a problem with that, take it up with my dean." One left, and the other two got belligerent. I reached down and hit the big red "Security" button on my phone, and two minutes later they were gone.

That's one of the great things about teaching at the college level. Parents aren't my problem. I deal with students, and they can deal with their parents themselves. My students are adults when they walk through my door, and I expect our relationship to exist at that level.
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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 12:52 PM
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117. Awesome
and reasonable.

The OP was, I'm sure, total BS. I can't imagine any parent that involved in their kids life to text them during the school day. But, if by some smidgeon of possibility it wasn't a made up story, this is the type of response the OP needs to read.

Someday his child will be an adult, and one much more worse for wear if any of the OP's story is true at all.


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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 02:05 PM
Response to Reply #93
112. Wish I could recommend a response
and downrate an original post.

:evilgrin:
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 05:55 PM
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114. Let's be real clear here
no one thinks Hitler was a Republican. Since the teacher was apparently throwing out conservative BS, she just threw something out there just to irritate the teacher who is a RW ass. If the teacher was going to throw crap out there, so did our daughter.

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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 10:49 AM
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116. Let's be even more clear
You were/are hovering over your daughter and disrupting both her education and that of her classmates with your incessant texting. If I were your daughter's teacher I would chew your ass up one side and down the other for disrupting my classroom and interfering with the education of your daughter and the rest of the class. That is inexcusable.

Furthermore, the information you were feeding her was factually incorrect, thus doing even more damage to your daughter's education.

Finally, your daughter is a big girl now and she needs to learn how to get along in the rough and tumble world of public life and politics. All you are doing by feeding her bullshit and hovering over her is simply stunting her own growth and development. As I asked earlier, what are you going to do when your daughter goes to college and runs up against a conservative prof? Are you going to be texting her in class there as well? There are conservative teachers and professors everywhere, that's a fact of life. Your desire for a "liberal only" education is just as bad, just as foolish as those RW fundies who only want a RW religious education for their children. Part of education takes place in collegial confrontations like this, where two parties from two differing viewpoints hash it out in a respectful and academic manner, and afterwards both walk away from the debate both wiser and more talented in the skills of debate and argument. You, by interfering in the manner you did are denying her these lessons and experiences and she is going to be all the poorer for it.

You need to stop being a hovering, disruptive ass. All you're doing is stunting your daughters growth and disrupting a class.
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yodoobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:55 AM
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97. They lets kids text message in classes ?
Wow. I wish the technology existed when i was school. Sure could have broken up the day some.
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 12:14 PM
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98. Don't encourage your daughter to have problems with her teacher
At least the teacher admitted to being a conservative.

Your kid is a high school senior, looking to graduate in less than a year. She has to pass government to get her diploma. Why encourage her to have problems with a teacher at this point?

Unless I'm wrong, and the teacher is one who allows free discourse and discussion in her classroom.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 12:55 PM
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102. Most Annoying Fucking Parent Ever
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 12:59 PM
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104. You and your daughter are wasting the time of probably 30 other kids.
If you both think you need to "take on" every Republican you meet, you're going to have a hell of a time even walking down the street. Good luck with that.
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samuraiguppy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 06:15 PM
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115. I am a huge fan of teachers
my mother was a teacher. And most teachers (at least here in California) are very solid Democrats--the teachers union provides a lot of support.

Even if you disagree with a teacher (and I have had ones I disagreed with) you should show more respect--and you should encourage your child to show respect for them.

honestly--this the right thing to do. Teachers work very hard, they are very underappreciated, and the vast majority of them are find Democrats.

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