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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 09:05 PM
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Okay, Texans, here's your chance: educate us on the Trans-Texas Corridor!
I got the link from Wikip*dia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Texas_Corridor) and the anti-corridor group (http://www.corridorwatch.org/) and the "official" tube (http://www.keeptexasmoving.com/)

But, what I want to know is:

how do real Texans feel about it?

DISCLAIMER: I am a Californian and fear this corridor will divert Asian port traffic away from LA-LB to Mexico.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 09:07 PM
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1. I have seen the highway at Austin that is built and nobody
knows why that lives there

its the Trans Texas Corridor and it SUCKS
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 09:08 PM
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2. Though I live just 7 miles from where it is supposed to be, I don't
know much about it. And I really should but I've been focused on other things. Here are some vids:

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=trans+texas+corridor&search_type=&aq=f
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 09:13 PM
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7. Another of my own personal conspiracies is ...
... that the redistricting push by DeLay was to ease the approval of this.

Is there anything to this?

(Please don't feel you have to pander to my inner tin foil-wearing man)


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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 09:21 PM
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12. I think 9/11 was an inside job so you don't have to apologize
to me for proffering possible tinfoil fodder.

It seems that this is a largely neo-con Texas politician thing that involves delay and perry and other unsavory republithug neo-con lipstick-wearing, pedophile, diaper-wearing neocon pieces of shit.

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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 09:40 PM
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21. Are you familiar with the districts and their "borders"?
Have they changed to primarily north-south shapes?


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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 09:08 PM
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3. Complete waste of money.
IMO.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 09:11 PM
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5. How so? If you don't mind my asking.
BTW: it seems to me from the outside it looks like one of those old-timey municipal "construction" projects that pad the wallets of politicians.


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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 09:14 PM
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8. You may have answered your own question.
:)

From what I gather, it is a HUGE project with not alot of gain. Texas/Austin has very real and more pressing issues to deal with at this moment.

The cost is what gets me.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 09:16 PM
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9. Yes, but I'm not local. You live there. Plus, I want YOUR opinion.
I already know my opinion.


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crimsonblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 09:10 PM
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4. fuck this road
it will take away a mile wide stretch of land by eminent domain. And it puts foreign custom officials in the US. IT takes away American soverieignty. At least that's what my Ron Paul supporter friend says. I hate it because all the traffic would route to KC. HELL NO!
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 09:39 PM
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19. Eminent domain -
Are they putting in a Wally World there? The tax breaks are over for it here in a couple years and there is already talk about it closing. Imagine a lovely 'corridor' lined every 20 miles by Wally Worlds.

There was hell raised in this area a few years ago when WW wanted some township supervisors to file ED for it.

They were asking the wrong people. WW got the land beside the land, but nothing more.

I wonder about cities in other states involved along this 'corridor'; has anyone followed the route North to see if there is any pattern of ED?

Or am I completely misunderstanding the route of this project?

Thanks, crimsonblue! :hi:
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 09:43 PM
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22. I think you nailed it: it's about following the trail of eminent domain cases! n/t
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:06 AM
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28. So, how do we follow the trail?
Could we enlist DUers along that 'corridor' for pics, paperwork, articles, etc.?

Would that be doable?

:hi:
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 05:34 AM
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29. I don't see why not! n/t
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lastliberalintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 09:12 PM
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6. It's one of the reasons that hurricane evacs are so bad
Highway funds that should have been used to widen Hwy 69 to a 4 lane highway have been diverted, and TXDoT just keeps promising that it will happen. They've now been promising Hwy 69 would be widened for more than a decade, daily traffic on the highway in Beaumont and Lufkin areas is bad, and it would be another main artery for evacs if it didn't just clog and turn into a parking lot. It might also be one of the reasons that a few other highway projects have never happened in East Texas and over west of Houston.

Perry is bought and sold on this project, though, so it will probably happen over the objections of most Texans.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 09:17 PM
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10. I take you you can't recall him? n/t
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lastliberalintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 09:20 PM
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11. No, but even if we could there wouldn't be the political will for it
Perry was elected with only a third of the votes in the last election (we don't have a runoff in such situations), but he's very Teflonish still.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 09:46 PM
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23. That sucks. When is he up for getting his ass beat ? n/t
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 09:22 PM
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13. Something has to be done to improve Texas Highways.
The amount of people moving to Texas city's demands it.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 09:48 PM
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24. From what I understand the T-TC doesn't improve Texas Highways, it's for building a new one. n/t
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 09:24 PM
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14. Feds back it, and TxDOT are their lackeys, and behind it.
They've tried to buy off local officials all along the proposed route, which is roughly where current Highway 59 is located, running through East Texas.

You can find their web site. Look at "Highway 69 corridor," and you'll find all sorts of info on it.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 09:25 PM
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15. I choose not to pretend to "educate" OR be a "Texan" but knowledge of CORSI is needed:
The a-hole is co-author with BOTH the SwiftBOTS *and* the Minutemen. What would O'LOOFAH say about HIS "associations" the way he talks about OBAMA's?!1 Eh?!1 CORSI is also a frequent guest on the Art BELL wannabe/replacement, George NOORY's radio show.


*********QUOTE********

http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=14965

North American Union to Replace USA?


by Jerome R. Corsi
Posted May 19, 2006

.... President Bush intends to abrogate U.S. sovereignty to the North American Union, a new economic and political entity which the President is quietly forming, much as the European Union has formed.

The blueprint President Bush is following was laid out in a 2005 report entitled "Building a North American Community" published by the left-of-center Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). The CFR report connects the dots between the Bush administration's actual policy on illegal immigration and the drive to create the North American Union: ....


http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=15497

Bush Administration Quietly Plans NAFTA Super Highway


by Jerome R. Corsi
Posted Jun 12, 2006

.... A good reason Bush does not want to secure the border with Mexico may be that the administration is trying to create express lanes for Mexican trucks to bring containers with cheap Far East goods into the heart of the U.S., all without the involvement of any U.S. union workers on the docks or in the trucks.

Mr. Corsi is the author of several books, including "Unfit for Command: Swift Boat Veterans Speak Out Against John Kerry" (along with John O'Neill), "Black Gold Stranglehold: The Myth of Scarcity and the Politics of Oil" (along with Craig R. Smith), and "Atomic Iran: How the Terrorist Regime Bought the Bomb and American Politicians." He is a frequent guest on the G. Gordon Liddy radio show. He will soon co-author a new book with Jim Gilchrist on the Minuteman Project.

http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=15623

North American Union Would Trump U.S. Supreme Court


by Jerome R. Corsi
Posted Jun 19, 2006

The Bush Administration is pushing to create a North American Union out of the work on-going in the Department of Commerce under the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America in the NAFTA office headed by Geri Word. A key part of the plan is to expand the NAFTA tribunals into a North American Union court system that would have supremacy over all U.S. law, even over the U.S. Supreme Court, in any matter related to the trilateral political and economic integration of the United States, Canada and Mexico. ....

http://www.wnd.com/news/archives.asp?AUTHOR_ID=246

Coming soon to U.S.: Mexican customs office


Monday, June 05, 2006 by Jerome R. Corsi -- Kansas City is planning to allow the Mexican government to open a Mexican customs office in conjunction with the Kansas City SmartPort. This will be the first foreign customs facility allowed to operate on U.S. soil.

Southern border blurs for global trade


Thursday, June 01, 2006 by Jerome R. Corsi -- The Texas segment of the NAFTA Super Corridor is moving rapidly toward approval. When built, the Trans-Texas Corridor, or TTC, will be a major super-highway with six lanes mo ...

Bush border policy linked to Carlyle deal?


Tuesday, May 23, 2006 by Jerome R. Corsi -- In January 2004, the Carlyle Group put together a new team to begin investing in Mexico. The team consisted of Luis T鬬ez, who was then an executive vice president of Desc, one of Mexico's larges ...

Immigration reform spells death for GOP


Friday, May 19, 2006 by Jerome R. Corsi -- To measure what exactly the Senate is doing in putting together a "Comprehensive Immigration Reform" bill, we have to ask what is going to change after the bill is passed: No illegal immigrant currently in the United Stat ...

Border fence will never be built


Thursday, May 18, 2006 by Jerome R. Corsi -- The Senate voted to approve the amendment submitted by Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala., to build a 370-mile section of triple-layered fence along the Mexican border. Now the Bush administration is trying to push this as a victory for conservative ...


http://mediamatters.org/items/200408060010

MMFA investigates: Who is Jerome Corsi, co-author of Swift Boat Vets attack book?


....
• Corsi on Islam: "a worthless, dangerous Satanic religion"

• Corsi on Catholicism: "Boy buggering in both Islam and Catholicism is okay with the Pope as long as it isn't reported by the liberal press"

• Corsi on Muslims: "RAGHEADS are Boy-Bumpers as clearly as they are Women-Haters -- it all goes together"

• Corsi on "John F*ing Commie Kerry": "After he married TerRAHsa, didn't John Kerry begin practicing Judiasm? He also has paternal grandparents that were Jewish. What religion is John Kerry?"

• Corsi on Senator "FAT HOG" Clinton: "Anybody ask why HELLary couldn't keep BJ Bill satisfied? Not lesbo or anything, is she?" ....

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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 09:38 PM
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18. Well, he is a stopped clock for sure
Guess he gets it right twice a day.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 09:49 PM
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25. Damn. n/t
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AldebTX Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 09:31 PM
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16. There Was Talk
There was talk that it was a money maker for the current Governor. He and friends were supposed to have owned some of the acquired land.
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AldebTX Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 09:34 PM
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17. Oh...
Its of course a toll road. It seems the state can't build roads any more so they sell off the highways to "private" corps or state Tollway Authorities that can build them "faster" and of course charge the drivers money for using the roads.

Near my home they have taken what used to be a free state highway and "reconstructed" it into a toll road.

They are also tolling some of the interstates by having "high speed" lanes that will be tolled so you can supposedly zip thru traffic.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 09:50 PM
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26. Privatizing roads? Now I've heard everything. n/t
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 09:50 PM
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27. Privatizing roads? Now I've heard everything. n/t
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 09:40 PM
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20. We've needed a transhemispheric highway for at least 40 years
It's insane that we don't.
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